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Execution takes two hours for man to die

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WonkyPanda

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http://abcnews.go.com/US/arizona-execution-takes-hours-prompts-plea-stay/story?id=24687542

An inmate's execution with lethal drugs in Arizona today took almost two hours as the man gasped and snorted, prompting his lawyers to request an emergency halt to the procedure.


"The experiment using midazolam combined with hydromorphone to carry out an execution failed today in Arizona. It took Joseph Wood two hours to die, and he gasped and struggled to breath for about an hour and forty minutes," said Dale Baich, one of Joseph Wood’s attorneys. "We will renew our efforts to get information about the manufacturer of drugs as well as how Arizona came up with the experimental formula of drugs it used today. Arizona appears to have joined several other states who have been responsible for an entirely preventable horror -- a bungled execution.”

Wood, 55, was convicted of first-degree murder February 25, 1991, and sentenced to death July 2, 1991.

Wood was involved in an unstable five-year relationship with his ex-girlfriend, Debbie Dietz, during the time of the crime. On August 7, 1989, Wood walked into the local body shop owned by her family and shot Debbie’s 55-year-old father, Gene Dietz, in the chest with a .38 caliber revolver, according to a statement from the AG.

Wood later located Debbie, and shot her once in the abdomen and once in the chest, killing her as well, the document stated.
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Thoughts, Gaf?
 
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maxcriden

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Again?!

Ninja edit: I don't mean this in bad taste, I'm just really surprised this is the second time something like this has happened recently.
 
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ICKE

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"We will renew our efforts to get information about the manufacturer of drugs as well as how Arizona came up with the experimental formula of drugs it used today. Arizona appears to have joined several other states who have been responsible for an entirely preventable horror -- a bungled execution.”
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How is this even an issue, it is completely insane. How can it be possible for states to keep these formulas secret after we have witnessed such incidents?

Wood walked into the local body shop owned by her family and shot Debbie’s 55-year-old father, Gene Dietz, in the chest with a .38 caliber revolver, according to a statement from the AG.

Wood later located Debbie, and shot her once in the abdomen and once in the chest, killing her as well, the document stated.
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Northeastmonk

Northeastmonk

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I discussed this topic twice with two people from the service. One being the Army and the other being the Air Force. I swear to f*cking god I hate when this topic is brought up. I am 100% for it, but I understand how people can be against it. I'm not a thumper either. I'm just for it. I hate discussing why either.

It's not a republican thing... their noses aren't that big to handle what it is.
 
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Tamanon

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ICKE said:
How is this even an issue, it is completely insane. How can it be possible for states to keep these formulas secret after we have witnessed such incidents?



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From my understanding, it's all about the drug companies not wanting it known for some reason that their chemicals are used to kill. It's absolutely silly.
 
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NYCmetsfan

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xbhaskarx said:
Guillotine would probably take seconds if the concern is how long it takes to die....
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If you're gonna have the death penalty guillotine is the only 'humane' execution. People just don't want to acknowledge what they are doing and mask their killing behind a 'medical death'

CountAntonius said:
You'd think it wouldn't be so difficult to efficiently put a person down.
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Its not. We figured this out in the 18th century. And still do it today with rodents.

We just don't like to fully see what we're actually doing.
 
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Kano on the Phone

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Damaniel said:
Nothing but Republican revenge porn. It's a barbaric practice that needs to go.
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Nailed it. Murder is murder and what the state did to this guy is as bad as what he did to land in jail.

Northeastmonk said:
I discussed this topic twice with two people from the service. One being the Army and the other being the Air Force. I swear to f*cking god I hate when this topic is brought up. I am 100% for it, but I understand how people can be against it. I'm not a thumper either. I'm just for it. I hate discussing why either.
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Ok?
 
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Masquerader

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Urgh, the moment it read "Experiment" was when I decided not to read any more. Why experiment with someone about to be executed? That's fucking horrible, no matter what they've done. Ugh.
 
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studyguy

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Jesus Christ, isn't this like the third guy this year that has been put to death with these questionable replacement cocktails? In each conversation I've seen here, it's always people saying the felon deserves no sympathy, but at the same time those types of vindictive comments have no place in the justice system.

The law has determined the individual is set to die, fine... but that's no excuse to turn a man into a human chemistry set. I'm surprised they've allowed these botched executions to go for so long.
 
Northeastmonk

Northeastmonk

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studyguy said:
Jesus Christ, isn't this like the third guy this year that has been put to death with these questionable replacement cocktails? In each conversation I've seen here, it's always people saying the felon deserves no sympathy, but at the same time those types of vindictive comments have no place in the justice system.

The law has determined the individual is set to die, fine... but that's no excuse to turn a man into a human chemistry set. I'm surprised they've allowed these botched executions to go for so long.
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It all started with animals I believe. Well at least the electric chair was. I did a paper on the methods in a physiology class. It was debated a long time ago to how each method actually works, but it's not straight away if you consider dosage with body weight. It could of been a botched dosage. I don't get why they did this, the traditional method is the one that works. The traditional method paralyzes the body, slows down the breathing, than stops the heart. This is... crap actually.
 
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ICKE

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MikeDown said:
can't say I feel sorry for the guy, that said our criminal system needs serious reform
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I'm not going to cry any tears for these people either, the last one slashed the throat of a 22 year old woman who was in her third trimester and it took over ten minutes for him to die.

But if you are going to do it, just do it efficiently.
 
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studyguy

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Northeastmonk said:
It all started with animals I believe. Well at least the electric chair was. I did a paper on the methods in a physiology class. It was debated a long time ago to how each method actually works, but it's not straight away if you consider dosage with body weight. It could of been a botched dosage.
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If I recall the original issue was the big pharma companies who originally offered the cocktail have been bailing after all the negative exposure. Pretty sure most of these states are pulling from assorted compounding pharmacies to make up for it with this as a result. It's a damn shameful display.
 
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Paskil

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He was on death row for 23 years. Do you know how much that costs? How much his appeals and such have cost? Dismantle the death penalty for life without parole. It's cheaper, and quite obviously, more humane. Especially in the case of overturned convictions.
 
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RiZ III

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That's so messed up. What I find even more messed up is how long people are kept on death row. 20 years later a person might be completely reformed and be a changed person who is full of remorse for his actions..THEN you kill him. Not even punishing the same person at that point.
 
Northeastmonk

Northeastmonk

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studyguy said:
If I recall the original issue was the big pharma companies who originally offered the cocktail have been bailing after all the negative exposure. Pretty sure most of these states are pulling from assorted compounding pharmacies to make up for it with this as a result. It's a damn shameful display.
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It's almost on the level of assisted suicide in that regard because you aren't giving them instant death, so I don't know how they're going about with experimenting with this stuff and getting away with it. It's against the Nuremberg Code. If they have a method, it should be the method and only that method. It shouldn't change unless it gets outlawed.
 
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Dragonborn

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I never got why they can't just do a shot to the head. It'd be fast and painless. Not that this guy deserves fast and painless but if that's their concern, why not?
 
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Suikoguy

I whinny my fervor lowly, for his length is not as great as those of the Hylian war stallions
Northeastmonk said:
It all started with animals I believe. Well at least the electric chair was. I did a paper on the methods in a physiology class. It was debated a long time ago to how each method actually works, but it's not straight away if you consider dosage with body weight. It could of been a botched dosage. I don't get why they did this, the traditional method is the one that works. The traditional method paralyzes the body, slows down the breathing, than stops the heart.
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No, what's happened, is the providers of the old "kill drug" will not sell it anymore for that usage. So the states are literately experimenting with stuff they can buy, in combination, to figure out what will kill. They are actually experimenting with unknown death cocktails on people.

Lawyers of death row inmates have also complained that death penalty states are refusing to openly say where they are getting the drug ingredients from. Pharmaceutical firms in Europe and the U.S. have increasingly refused to sell drugs for the purposes of carrying out executions. As a result, prison authorities have turned to semi-licensed compound pharmacies to supply the drugs, without stating which firms are being used.
http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2014/7/23/arizona-executiondecision.html
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Also, congratulations to the Arizona supreme for changing their mind. You guys committed torture.

Wait, looks like it was the supreme court?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/07/22/scotus-execution-first-amendment_n_5611480.html
 
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Loofy

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Is there a reason lethal injection became the standard?
Wouldnt something gas related be better, like simple CO poisoning?
 
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Alcotholic

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twinturbo2 said:
Again.

Give them life sentences without parole. It costs less than executing them, and it's more humane.
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Is it more humane? A person is just sitting wasting their life away, I think we should give them the option. Also, I don't understand how a lethal injection is more expensive than supporting a human for the rest of their life?
 
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