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nhlducks35
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(07-25-2014, 08:17 PM)
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Thanks, Wishmaster92.

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http://www.craveonline.com/gaming/ar...rison#/slide/1

The results show something more than subtle.

What you’re going to see in our screenshots and videos are a variety of results, sometimes indistinguishable, and other times enough difference present to raise an eyebrow. When playing at 60 FPS without the lock enabled, you will encounter shadows with high aliasing (blocky edges), and sometimes even shadows missing altogether. With the 30 FPS lock enabled, the edges of shadows are much smoother, and shadows will appear on certain surfaces.

In my opinion, I think Naughty Dog wanted to incorporate the higher quality shadows by default, but simply couldn’t get the game to run smoothly enough, opting to lower the intensity of shadow quality when running at 60 FPS. After all, in the case of PC games shadows are usually the first thing to go when performance takes a dive.

During my playtime with the 30 FPS lock disabled, I didn’t necessarily notice the blocky shadows during gameplay. The only occasions where they caught my attention is when I was looking for them, or a shadow was flickering (uncommon).

Last edited by nhlducks35; 07-29-2014 at 12:12 AM.
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(07-25-2014, 08:18 PM)
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Oh dear.
Wario64
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(07-25-2014, 08:18 PM)
Uh oh, ammunition for the 30 FPS crowd

Show us the receipts
Frillen
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(07-25-2014, 08:18 PM)
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Comparison pics NOW please.
Exploratory
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(07-25-2014, 08:18 PM)
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Haha yes.
illmatic22
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(07-25-2014, 08:19 PM)
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Do your stuff GAF.
R dott B
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(07-25-2014, 08:19 PM)
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Well this is interesting.
Levito
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(07-25-2014, 08:19 PM)
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Don't meltdown, GAF. It'll be ok babygirl.
Pagusas
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(07-25-2014, 08:19 PM)
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who writes a story like this and doesnt put up comparison pics?
Wishmaster92
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(07-25-2014, 08:20 PM)
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Goodbye 60fps mode!
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(07-25-2014, 08:20 PM)
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XtaLarge
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(07-25-2014, 08:20 PM)
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Hell yeah.

I'm not the type of dude to sacrifice 60fps for anything (especially shadows... shadow filtering and res are literally the first things to go when I need to lower settings) but that they're willing to enable enhanced visual elements for those who choose 30fps is fantastic middle ground.

I don't get why y'all are predicting a fucked up thread. This is whynotboth.gif and it's great

Originally Posted by The Icon

Nice, was going to lock it at 30 anyway. Worked great for Killzone and Infamous.

Yeah because those were games that weren't hitting 60fps all the time. This very well could and IMO there's no reason to switch to 30fps at all in that event.

Except now there is :p I guess
Last edited by XtaLarge; 07-25-2014 at 08:25 PM.
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(07-25-2014, 08:20 PM)
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Lol! This is going to be good.
GrimlÝck
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(07-25-2014, 08:20 PM)
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yeah, i'm not clicking that link. post pics pls.
Backfoggen
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(07-25-2014, 08:20 PM)
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Am I supposed to use my imagination since no pics?
WonkersTHEWatilla
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(07-25-2014, 08:20 PM)
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I bet it enhances other visual elements as well.
Robert J. Sullivan
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(07-25-2014, 08:20 PM)
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i'll take 60fps thankyouverymuch
joeygreco1985
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(07-25-2014, 08:20 PM)
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Knew it. Knew it was in there for a reason. God damn it.
The Icon
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(07-25-2014, 08:20 PM)
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Nice, was going to lock it at 30 anyway. Worked great for Killzone and Infamous.
oldmario
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(07-25-2014, 08:21 PM)
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website says the 30fps lock is better because of better shadow quality but doesn't actually show any proof apart from a wall of text? i bet they're just trying to bait for clicks
Kenak
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(07-25-2014, 08:21 PM)
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Pretty awesome that Naughty Dog is giving everyone the choice of better graphics or 60FPS. Wish more games did stuff like this.
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dmr87
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(07-25-2014, 08:21 PM)
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How it should be, let people choose how to play.

If this is true.
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(07-25-2014, 08:21 PM)
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TalonJH
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(07-25-2014, 08:21 PM)
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Oh, no. How will I choose? Im honestly leaning toward 30fps now.
shark sandwich
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(07-25-2014, 08:21 PM)
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Welcome to next gen!
Cudder
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(07-25-2014, 08:21 PM)
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Does a box saying "higher-quality shadows in-game" literally get checked once you enable 30fps? Weird that they put that in quotations.
Rash
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(07-25-2014, 08:21 PM)
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Game feels inferior to play but hey look, shadows!

Who gives a shit?
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(07-25-2014, 08:21 PM)
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More cinematic, and now more shadowy too!

Are we still waiting to hear how stable the 60fps is?
rjc571
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(07-25-2014, 08:21 PM)
Better shadows versus not having the game turn into a jittery mess whenever the camera moves. Tough decision.
Guymelef
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(07-25-2014, 08:21 PM)
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Crave Online are the same people from "Thief PS4′s Low Framerate is Proof that 1080p isnít Always the Answer" and then PS4 framerate was better than One's.
Kabuki Quantum Lover
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(07-25-2014, 08:22 PM)
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I. Love. Shadows.

MUST HAVE THE SHADOWS!
UnObtainium17
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(07-25-2014, 08:22 PM)
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I wanna see the pics.
MMaRsu
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GODDAMNIT BEATEN LIKE A DEAD RABBIT
Vidpixel
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(07-25-2014, 08:22 PM)
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Wait, seriously? Hmmm, my highly-honed detective skills and intuition indicate that this thread won't end well.
scoobidoo112
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(07-25-2014, 08:22 PM)
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Why not make the shadows and the fps lock separate options?

Also, this isn't a big deal so I see no need for anyone to cancel their pre-order, but I still wonder why a PS3 game has trouble running 60FPS on a PS4...

Originally Posted by Guymelef

Crave Online are the same people from "Thief PS4′s Low Framerate is Proof that 1080p isn’t Always the Answer" and then PS4 framerate was better than One's.

These two things have nothing to do with each other. 1080p not always being worth it is a separate issue from the framerate on PS4 versus Xbone.
ElTorro
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(07-25-2014, 08:22 PM)
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From now on we shall divide us into those who preferred shadowz over framez and those who did not, and judge each other forever.
FinalStageBoss
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(07-25-2014, 08:22 PM)
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So visuals increase when you drop the framerate? No shit
Sir TapTap
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(07-25-2014, 08:22 PM)
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...so we're suddenly pretending 30 FPS massively reducing resource usage is unusual? I don't get the freak out. They actually did something with the extra oomph from 30FPS, and they did it without taking 60 FPS out of the game.
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(07-25-2014, 08:22 PM)
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Banana Aeon
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Originally Posted by rjc571

Better shadows versus not having the game turn into a jittery mess whenever the camera moves. Tough decision.

This.

But I still wanna see some proof.
Rflagg
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(07-25-2014, 08:22 PM)
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If true I will play on 30fps, because for me better graphics/looking > fps.
Timeaisis
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(07-25-2014, 08:22 PM)
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I knew there had to be a reason for the 30 fps option.
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(07-25-2014, 08:23 PM)
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Here we go.
iNvid02
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(07-25-2014, 08:23 PM)
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Originally Posted by Kenak

Pretty awesome that Naughty Dog is giving everyone the choice of better graphics or 60FPS. Wish more games did stuff like this.

well ok but they did flat out say they only included the 30fps option for preference only (some gaffer said 60fps made him feel uneasy).

for it to now emerge that 30fps brings some potentially noticeable improvement in shadows is pretty crummy

need pics first though
Baroquemantic
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(07-25-2014, 08:23 PM)
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Awesome. I'll always take 30fps if it means better visuals. I can't really tell the difference when playing a 30 frame game vs a 60 one.frame
Impeccable
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(07-25-2014, 08:23 PM)
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Oh ho ho, we got options - time for a 74 page thread.
Begaria
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(07-25-2014, 08:23 PM)
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Nice! I think it's a good trade off. Lower frame rate for higher visual fidelity, or higher frame rate with slightly less visual fidelity. You're not locked in either way, so adjust to your needs. Looks like console gaming is inching ever closer to PC gaming with the graphical option stuff.

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