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Psycho_Mantis
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(08-13-2014, 12:00 PM)


I will try my best and keep the OP updated.



From Neogaf poster S1kkZ

Played the demo. Feels more like demons souls to me. But I really sucked at it. The core souls gameplay seems intact, the firearms are just an addition, not the main focus. You need to be a lot more agile and doge, roll around. The visuals. Aside from some minor framerate issues and aliasing(which could have been the tv), the game Is a looker. The animations, the physicsof the main characters cape, atmosphere... Amazing.

Ich It wasn't rock solid 30 frames, but it was alpha code. Some stutter here and there, no major dips. The guns seem to be mostly there for crowd control. You can stun or kill with it, but I had so few bullets, that it wasn't really worth wasting the gun on single enemies. Sorry about the grammar, posting from phone on floor.

From Neogaf poster Babylonian

Embargo's up now, so I can talk about this:

I played Bloodborne at Sony last night. It feels completely, entirely, unapologetically like a Souls game. Like, yeah, there were more potions than you'd expect, and I felt like my survivability / damage were higher than normal, but the Sony employee on-hand assured me that the Gamescom demo was balanced to be easier than the final game.

But yeah, the sense of punishment is absolutely there, and these quotes should mean about as much to you as the talk last time around that oDark Souls 2 was going to be "much more accessible." This is such a Miyazaki game it's ridiculous. Based on my hour with it, there's absolutely no reason to panic.

Venture Beat - http://venturebeat.com/2014/08/13/bl...ds-on-preview/

This sampling of Bloodborne’s overall level design hints at a return to the appealing multipath layout of the first Dark Souls, an element that some sorely missed in the sequel. A gate locked on one side implies a future shortcut, provided you manage to open that barrier. One path can lead you down a route of a couple manageable hostiles while another could pit you against a monster equipped with torches. Based on my two playthroughs, From Software makes no assurances that the wide reach of an ax attack or the potency of a Molotov cocktail will have the same effectiveness one would find in other action-RPGs.

IGN - http://uk.ign.com/articles/2014/08/1...-4s-bloodborne

At the outset of the demo, I was given the option to choose a so-called “Heavy” fighter, equipped with an axe and pistol, or a “Standard” character, wielding a saw and blunderbuss. I went with the latter, expecting more of that ever-important speed I’ve been seeking for these last few years, and I certainly found it. I asked the game’s producers if my notions of Bloodborne’s amped-up quickness was simply a figment of my imagination; after all, some claim it’s no faster than Demon’s Souls or Dark Souls. They confirmed what I already knew: Bloodborne does indeed have speed From Software’s previous games lack, but it certainly doesn’t make the experience of playing any easier. It just makes it different.

Destructoid - http://www.destructoid.com/bloodborn...g-279524.phtml

The left-handed items now offer more usefulness during combat, and some of which can be used effectively in tandem with your melee attacks. The firearms play a large focus in combat, and while it may seem like they can make situations easy for players who want to stay at range, know that ammo is limited and scarce, which forces players to make smart use of their guns. If you have the blunderbuss equipped, you can bunch enemies together with your melee attacks and finish them off with a close-range shot. Pistols have greater range than the blunderbuss, but greatly lack the attack power.

Moreover, firearms can stun enemies and open up their defenses. Called the Counter-shot, when you shoot an enemy about to attack, you'll stun them and leave open to a devastating counter-attack. Think of this as Bloodborne's take on the parry, but it's way more brutal and satisfying to pull off.

Gamesradar - http://www.gamesradar.com/fight-colo...campaign=Owned

I am God. Or not--but I certainly feel godlike when I slay the gigantic, hairy, rotting wolf boss of the Bloodborne hands-on demo. From Software's upcoming PS4 exclusive delivers the same kind of giddy thrills as the Souls series, with a few new twists and a spooky Victorian-era setting. But the delight of playing still comes from the same places. The suspense before each fight; the intensity of the combat; the desperate clinging to hope when things look dire; the euphoric relief that comes with finally downing your enemy. It's all here, and it's incredible.

VG247 - http://www.vg247.com/2014/08/13/bloo...is-the-target/

From Software is aiming for a wider audience with Bloodborne, the next game based on the Souls concept, but is mindful there can be no compromise in regards of the series’s difficulty-demanding following.

“In terms of who the game is aimed at, and who we want to capture in terms of the audience, obviously we can’t betray or disappoint the fans out there,” said producer Masaaki Yamagiwa, speaking at gamescom today.

“They’re very, very important. They’ll be the main ambassadors of the game.”

But “we do want more people to share in this experience,” he admitted.

Playstation blog - http://blog.us.playstation.com/2014/...ils/#sf4130110 **RECOMMENDED READ** (SCEJ producer talking about all the new aspects of combat in detail)

Like with Demon’s Souls, there’s a lot of emphasis on achievement and reward, that sense of accomplishment from overcoming seemingly impossible challenges. With Bloodborne, the goal is to take that to the next level, which requires focusing on more than just a high difficulty level. To really build up that sense of achievement, not only are there new elements of fear, but we are adding new layers of edge-of-your-seat tension, where your palms sweat as you grip the controller.
At E3 we introduced Bloodborne’s evolved combat style, which requires more pro-active and offensive tactics. The weapons, like the transforming saw cleaver and blunderbuss shotgun, lend themselves to this different combat style, as does the quicker movement and dodging. Enemies in Bloodborne are quicker and more aggressive as well, and you’ll be facing more enemies at once than in the past. There are situations where if you sit back and wait for an opening, you’ll get overwhelmed. At times, you have to be on the offensive. But this is not a hack-and-slash game. Rest assured, Bloodborne is still an action RPG at its core, and combat is still very much about strategy and tactics.



www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gbz18RvVsdQ - short clip, shows UI, ragdolls
www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-9yYFUj7oA - can hear the audio well on this one, also shows the new lock on reticule.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=uc7wEsaYL50 - 1 minute of combat, dodging, dashing, attacks......watch this
www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWJ9u7knotQ&feature=youtu.be - Rev3 Impressions

This seems to be the press recapping what they saw with their one hour long behind doors session of Bloodborne.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3GsMAHtCJU (PS Access)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4QIVyVy4Zo (Gamespot)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkAo5uO-o34 (IGN: Breaking Down Bloodborne's Regain System)

EpicNameBro's impressions: www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vFJd-L14oM&list=UUI6keWArpxmfeiuAATv7jZw

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DrROBschiz
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(08-13-2014, 12:01 PM)
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Game of the Generation

Calling it now
Altima
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(08-13-2014, 12:01 PM)
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I need video, Please. I beg you.
PranooY
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Feels more like demons souls to me. But I really sucked at it. The core souls gameplay seems intact, the firearms are just an addition, not the main focus. You need to be a lot more agile and doge, roll around. The visuals. Aside from some minor framerate issues and aliasing(which could have been the tv), the game Is a looker. The animations, the physicsof the main characters cape, atmosphere... Amazing.

Yipeeeeeeee.
Psycho_Mantis
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(08-13-2014, 12:02 PM)

Originally Posted by Altima

I need video, Please. I beg you.

Apparently video is prohibited on the show floor :(

I'll link some short clips.
HORRORSHØW
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(08-13-2014, 12:02 PM)
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hell yes. someone sneak some footage.

You need to be a lot more agile and doge, roll around.

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S1kkZ
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(08-13-2014, 12:02 PM)
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No filming allowed, I tried it. No dice. You constantly have at least one Sony person behind you, in my case even three.
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(08-13-2014, 12:03 PM)
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Originally Posted by DrROBschiz

Game of the Generation

Calling it now

Bit too early for that. Definitely looks good though, and the notes that its Demon Souls but shinier and with guns has me very interested.
Canis lupus
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(08-13-2014, 12:04 PM)
Sony said this releases within 6 months right?
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(08-13-2014, 12:04 PM)
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Ahhh no footage?!

NOOOO
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Originally Posted by Canis lupus

Sony said this releases within 6 months right?

Yup
Foshy
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(08-13-2014, 12:04 PM)
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Originally Posted by Canis lupus

Sony said this releases within 6 months right?

Yes.
Thrakier
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(08-13-2014, 12:04 PM)

Originally Posted by DrROBschiz

Game of the Generation

Calling it now

Maybe the remastered version on PS5 without framerate dips.
Widge
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(08-13-2014, 12:06 PM)
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Originally Posted by S1kkZ

No filming allowed, I tried it. No dice. You constantly have at least one Sony person behind you, in my case even three.

This is when you use the gun. Crowd control.
Shengar
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(08-13-2014, 12:08 PM)
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Someone manage to film a really short clip though
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gbz18RvVsdQ

That item picking animation and ragdoll is what important here.
ViciousDS
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(08-13-2014, 12:08 PM)

Originally Posted by Widge

This is when you use the gun. Crowd control.

FinalStageBoss
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(08-13-2014, 12:09 PM)
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Originally Posted by Shengar

Someone manage to film a really short clip though
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gbz18RvVsdQ

That item picking animation and ragdoll is what important here.

Cool, you can see the hud there too
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(08-13-2014, 12:10 PM)
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Reposting my questions from the other thread:

Originally Posted by AmethystEnd

More details please. Did you get to experience multiple weapons? How did they handle? Describe movesets please.

How much health stays yellow when you get hit? How long does it take for the yellow to drain if you don't gain it back?

I'm directing these questions to all of you people who are getting to play it.

BernardoOne
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(08-13-2014, 12:10 PM)
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Originally Posted by Thrakier

Maybe the remastered version on PS5 without framerate dips.

So you looked into the future and know how the final version will run?
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(08-13-2014, 12:10 PM)

Originally Posted by Shengar

Someone manage to film a really short clip though
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gbz18RvVsdQ

That item picking animation and ragdoll is what important here.

Definitely Souls
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(08-13-2014, 12:11 PM)
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More....


MORE, NEOGAF!!!!
AmethystEnd
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Originally Posted by BernardoOne

So you looked into the future and know how the final version will run?

Just check his post history. You can safely not respond.
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(08-13-2014, 12:11 PM)
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I wonder why the ragdolls are back...
S1kkZ
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(08-13-2014, 12:12 PM)
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Two character selectable. One with the big knife from the trailer and shotgun, the other with axe and pistol.
Widge
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(08-13-2014, 12:13 PM)
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Originally Posted by Principate

I wonder why the ragdolls are back...

It's not a spiritual Souls successor unless you can walk around levels with your defeated foes between your legs.
Imru’ al-Qays
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(08-13-2014, 12:13 PM)
It all looks so perfect.
Izcarielo
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(08-13-2014, 12:13 PM)

Originally Posted by Canis lupus

Sony said this releases within 6 months right?

WOW only 6 months? i thought this was going to be out next year at the very least.
Very VERY good news
Aliasing and etc are going to be solved when the game comes out, im sure.
Color.Morale
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(08-13-2014, 12:14 PM)
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Looks good.
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Originally Posted by Izcarielo

WOW only 6 months? i thought this was going to be out next year at the very least.
Very VERY good news
Aliasing and etc are going to be solved when the game comes out, im sure.

6 months is next year. Spring is the target release window.
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(08-13-2014, 12:15 PM)
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Originally Posted by Widge

It's not a spiritual Souls successor unless you can walk around levels with your defeated foes between your legs.

Well said!
Izcarielo
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(08-13-2014, 12:16 PM)

Originally Posted by bombshell

6 months is next year. Spring is the target release window.

Yeah i know, but somehow i thought this was some 2015 Christmas release or something.
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(08-13-2014, 12:16 PM)
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Originally Posted by S1kkZ

Two character selectable. One with the big knife from the trailer and shotgun, the other with axe and pistol.

That's what I was interested in hearing. It's not centred around one particular protagonist then, so there may be scope for custom characters like the Souls games.
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(08-13-2014, 12:16 PM)
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Feels more like demons souls to me

YES.
tusken77
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(08-13-2014, 12:18 PM)
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"Feels more like demons souls to me"



Win.
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(08-13-2014, 12:19 PM)
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Originally Posted by Shengar

Someone manage to film a really short clip though
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gbz18RvVsdQ

That item picking animation and ragdoll is what important here.

Yes! The return of rag doll corpses, I missed them in DS2. I hope 'You defeated' returns as well.
Kajiba
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(08-13-2014, 12:24 PM)
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UI looks like souls. Never had a problem with the rag doll physics. Happy to see it's back.
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(08-13-2014, 12:28 PM)
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I can't contain my self.
Thrakier
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(08-13-2014, 12:28 PM)

Originally Posted by BernardoOne

So you looked into the future and know how the final version will run?

Well, first, it's 30FPS anyway. So that's already not good. If more games like TLOU:R or UC4 or many indies go 60FPS, console gamers will hopefully finally take notice of the differences. And second, FS/th dev has a notorious history of games with sub-30FPS framerates, including the past Souls games. Sure, the game is 6 months away, but they are showing a build with dips already again. There is a chance that they will fix it, but considering their past and their 30FPS decision, framerate is not of high priority for them. So there is hope, but it's little.
TheExorzist
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(08-13-2014, 12:31 PM)
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So is there still blocking in the game or is it only dodging now? Because I haven't seen a shield so far.
Spineker
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(08-13-2014, 12:32 PM)
Is the tedious soul grinding gone?
S1kkZ
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(08-13-2014, 12:33 PM)
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No blocking. If you time it right, your gun can counter attacks and stun enemies. And of course evade, dodging.
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Originally Posted by Spineker

Is the tedious soul grinding gone?

You mean the grinding that was never a thing unless you actually wanted to do so?
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Yay ragdoll!
Orayn
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(08-13-2014, 12:34 PM)
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Originally Posted by Spineker

Is the tedious soul grinding gone?

They can't remove something that was never there.
DrROBschiz
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(08-13-2014, 12:35 PM)
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Originally Posted by Spineker

Is the tedious soul grinding gone?

Originally Posted by TheExorzist

So is there still blocking in the game or is it only dodging now? Because I haven't seen a shield so far.

Holy Cow guys

Get Good at games :p

No shields. No Grinding.
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(08-13-2014, 12:36 PM)
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This is the ultimate system seller, what else can I say... Oh, wait... Thanks From.
ElTopo
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(08-13-2014, 12:37 PM)
I'm curious how effective guns would be against bosses and if you have an inventory load like Demons Souls. My strategy in every game where I get a really good ranged weapon is to save it until I get to the big bad.
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Any sign of a backstab or parry like mechanic? I read about that life steal thing, but is there something like those classic Souls moves?
Hypron
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(08-13-2014, 12:39 PM)

Originally Posted by Orayn

They can't remove something that was never there.

This.
Psycho_Mantis
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(08-13-2014, 12:40 PM)

Originally Posted by AlexSA2

I'm curious how effective guns would be against bosses and if you have an inventory load like Demons Souls. My strategy in every game where I get a really good ranged weapon is to save it until I get to the big bad.

Right now it seems guns are for crowd control. Ammo is extremely scarce so should only be used in the worse of situations where a lot is at stake. I mean ammo may be so scarce that dying may seem better than wasting you're ammo on trash mobs.

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