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1st Course
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(08-26-2014, 03:08 PM)
Saw this article on Bloomberg

The change is one of dozens of new features in Madden NFL 15, the rendition of the Electronic Arts Inc. (EA) title that came out today and that analysts including Doug Creutz of Cowen & Co. expect to generate more than $350 million in revenue.

The forecast is for sales of the game, retailing for about $60, and of the so-called extra content available online -- the Ultimate Team players, jerseys, coaches, playbooks and stadiums that can make video-play close to the real thing. Some fans will spend more on the extras than the basic software.

“The margins on Madden Ultimate Team are through the roof,” said James Hardiman, an analyst with Longbow Research LLC who has a buy rating on the stock.

Ultimate Team sales could total more than $50 million and those of the game itself about $300 million, said Creutz, who also rates the stock a buy. For EA, “the opportunity is to get more dollars per unit.”

Revenue from extra content for all its games may reach a record $1 billion this year, according to the company.Madden NFL 15, along with other sports titles, will be a “major contributor,” said John Reseburg, a spokesman for EA. He declined to comment on whether sales would continue to be as strong as they’ve been: Madden NFL extra content revenue grew 350 percent in the quarter ending June 30 from a year earlier.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-0...adden-nfl.html
UnluckyKate
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(08-26-2014, 03:09 PM)
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Yes, keep cutting content out of your lazy yearly roaster updates. Let's see how that will work on the long term
CambriaRising
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(08-26-2014, 03:09 PM)
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Has hard as they are pushing Ultimate Team in Madden 15, I bet they do think that.
JaseC
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(08-26-2014, 03:10 PM)
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That's the estimation of an analyst, not EA itself.

Edit: Misunderstood the article.
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Spades
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(08-26-2014, 03:10 PM)
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As fashionable as it is to complain about EA and call them names, they are obviously providing people with what they want to buy and play, or they wouldn't have such lofty goals.
icespide
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(08-26-2014, 03:10 PM)
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how much money did they make from people creating multiple EA Access accounts to play madden early?
Piston Hyundai
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(08-26-2014, 03:10 PM)
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Don't you mean "excised?"
Valar Morghulis
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(08-26-2014, 03:11 PM)
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I've been saying for a while that Ultimate Team is the reason why they suddenly decided to keep servers up for sports games longer than they used to.

Good thing in my opinion though.
Solaire of Astora
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(08-26-2014, 03:12 PM)
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Originally Posted by UnluckyKate

Yes, keep cutting content out of your lazy yearly roaster updates. Let's see how that will work on the long term

One and done.
1st Course
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(08-26-2014, 03:17 PM)

Originally Posted by JaseC

That's the estimation of an analyst, not EA itself.

The $1B is from an EA spokesman

Revenue from extra content for all its games may reach a record $1 billion this year, according to the company.Madden NFL 15, along with other sports titles, will be a “major contributor,” said John Reseburg, a spokesman for EA.

J3ffro
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(08-26-2014, 03:20 PM)
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And the nagging urge to pick up Madden 15 just deflated some.
Nodnol
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(08-26-2014, 03:20 PM)
With how much people I know have spent on FIFA Ulimate Team over the last few years, it doesn't surprise me. I know individuals who are into four-figure spending, a year.
thelatestmodel
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(08-26-2014, 03:21 PM)
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This makes me feel icky.
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(08-26-2014, 03:22 PM)
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"extra content" aka stuff EA took out of the original game and sold it back to idiots who paid for it.
JaseC
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(08-26-2014, 03:22 PM)
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Originally Posted by 1st Course

The $1B is from an EA spokesman

Ah, I thought "the company" was in reference to the analyst firm as it's on a separate paragraph, the preceding figures were provided by an analyst, and EA is mentioned by name in the second sentence.
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nib95
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(08-26-2014, 03:25 PM)
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Not from me they're not. EA's dominance really needs to be quelled. They're not fit for it, and too many times now they've screwed consumers over. For one, I hope PES claws back the title from Fifa eventually.
iNvid02
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(08-26-2014, 03:29 PM)
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i feel like im the only person who buys fifa every year and doesnt touch ultimate team or spend any additional money on it.
Nibiru
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(08-26-2014, 03:29 PM)
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Originally Posted by Spades

As fashionable as it is to complain about EA and call them names, they are obviously providing people with what they want to buy and play, or they wouldn't have such lofty goals.

Ahh the ole "it's fashionable" bit. There are many very good reasons why EA gets criticized it's not just so we can be in the "cool" crowd lol.
Gentleman Jack
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(08-26-2014, 03:30 PM)
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Originally Posted by UnluckyKate

Yes, keep cutting content out of your lazy yearly roaster updates. Let's see how that will work on the long term

Hasn't failed them yet!
Bluekaveli
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(08-26-2014, 03:32 PM)
It's sad, I don't know the last time I gave these guys money.
Jamie OD
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(08-26-2014, 03:33 PM)
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Originally Posted by UnluckyKate

Yes, keep cutting content out of your lazy yearly roaster updates. Let's see how that will work on the long term

It seems to be working pretty well for them.
Nightengale
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(08-26-2014, 03:35 PM)
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Originally Posted by Gentleman Jack

Hasn't failed them yet!

The strength of the license, man.

Sigh, just one year.

I just want to see one year, where EA lets 2K share the NFL license ( they can make theirs too!), and give Konami the right to the FIFA name, whereas their own football game has to use a generic name, and see if they can even muster half the sales they usually get.
bigkrev
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(08-26-2014, 03:35 PM)
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As someone who's only interaction with Ultimate Team each year is opening the free stuff (and maybe buying a pack or 2 using the points you get from playing old versions of the game), I'm fine with this. Obviously, lots of people care about this, but you can pretty much ignore it if you don't want to touch it and not miss out on anything
tbm24
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(08-26-2014, 03:36 PM)
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Originally Posted by iNvid02

i feel like im the only person who buys fifa every year and doesnt touch ultimate team or spend any additional money on it.

You're a stronger person than I am. In any case FIFA Ultimate Team is so much fun to play for me. I don't take shame in having spent a good chunk of money on buying packs so that I can then be sad when they are all terrible. It's not a mode for everyone but it's pretty dam fun. I will be there day 1 for FIFA 15.
Lrrr
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(08-26-2014, 03:36 PM)
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As a consumer, I have disliked EA for a long time because I despise their business models, but even I have to admit that no one is forcing their consumers to spend money on Ultimate Team. This is a mode where an individual's' progress does not carry over from year-to-year, and yet people are stupid enough to spend a ridiculous amount of money annually creating "their team".

As a publically traded company whose sole mission is to generate profits and increase shareholder value, EA is right to continue the business model.
nephilimdj
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(08-26-2014, 03:43 PM)
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Originally Posted by UnluckyKate

Yes, keep cutting content out of your lazy yearly roaster updates. Let's see how that will work on the long term

What content was cut from FIFA16? They announced it has every EPL stadium and a few big new things
The Albatross
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(08-26-2014, 03:48 PM)
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This is one of the major financial motivations behind EA Access. They get a ton of revenue from their Ultimate Team games, which to their credit, are very fair and content-packed trading card mini games that are worth it for people who are into that... and they don't encroach anywhere on the singleplayer/core game.

If they put Madden '15 on EA Access in .. say .. April, right before the draft, a ton of people will download it, and then they can release draft day special edition MUT cards for $$$ and make a killing.
Shai-Tan
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(08-26-2014, 03:57 PM)
^-- yeah, I tried to point out the day they announced the subscription that in almost all the games at least half of the revenue was from secondary revenue. to get bf4 premium (map packs) you're spending more than the game is worth. even worse is the feeling of sunk costs for people when they buy dlc for these games. it's a good form of lock in (for the publisher)
SolidSnakeUS
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(08-26-2014, 04:00 PM)
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Originally Posted by The Albatross

This is one of the major financial motivations behind EA Access. They get a ton of revenue from their Ultimate Team games, which to their credit, are very fair and content-packed trading card mini games that are worth it for people who are into that... and they don't encroach anywhere on the singleplayer/core game.

If they put Madden '15 on EA Access in .. say .. April, right before the draft, a ton of people will download it, and then they can release draft day special edition MUT cards for $$$ and make a killing.

It's so fucked up... I personally think HUT is the bane of sports games.
Arc
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(08-26-2014, 04:01 PM)
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I want to vomit
1st Course
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(08-26-2014, 04:05 PM)
EA made $380 million from Ultimate Team last FY

http://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/a...0-million.aspx

Ultimate Team revenue was up big time last quarter (FY15 Q1) so I would say there is actually a good chance they hit $1B this year.
Arttemis
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(08-26-2014, 04:06 PM)
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Originally Posted by Spades

As fashionable as it is to complain about EA and call them names, they are obviously providing people with what they want to buy and play, or they wouldn't have such lofty goals.

And Bank of America was just obviously providing people with the loans they wanted to buy their houses. The mass market is filled with people blindly buying, regardless of the consequences to the market or themselves. Just because it's popular doesn't mean it's good for anyone.

Originally Posted by Gentleman Jack

Hasn't failed them yet!

They also bought out exclusivity on the NFL license for an entire decade an counting. There's no alternative or competition.
Last edited by Arttemis; 08-26-2014 at 04:09 PM.
darkside31337
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(08-26-2014, 04:09 PM)
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I wonder how much MS is paying for that exclusive UT content. Because considering how big UT has gotten (and is still getting) it'd have to be a pretty decent amount of cash.
Gentleman Jack
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(08-26-2014, 06:12 PM)
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Originally Posted by Arttemis

They also bought out exclusivity on the NFL license for an entire decade an counting. There's no alternative or competition.

And yet the fans have yet to punish any of the guilty parties in this. The NFL, the NCAA and the heads of EA sports rake in billions every year and laugh at the outrage when year after year consumer patterns fail to change.

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