sixteen-bit
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wow, another delay? holy shit.
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Shin Megami Tensei IV: EU release pushed back to Late October
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Because that would make sense.
Why would that be faster for Australia than for Europe?
Dragon1893
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How can anyone even get away with this level of incompetence in this day and age? It's mindblowing.
Well they're doing that for quite some time now.
Honestly, they "got away" with P4A, it's not so surprising they're doing it again.
Seeing the prices P4A is sold for in Europe, I don't think it sold very well.
Never Forever
Member
well, this has been a runaway success
looking forward to seeing how low the price can go in the sales
lmao if they're expecting anyone to buy dlc after this debacle
looking forward to seeing how low the price can go in the sales
lmao if they're expecting anyone to buy dlc after this debacle
Most of the blame went to Zen, not Atlus. Heck I even saw people accusing Zen of having imposed the region lock to Atlus.
When I say "got away", I mean people just didn't seem to care (or not for very long), or just accusing the publisher instead of Atlus.
Starwolf_UK
Member
I'm not sure what you are getting at here. eShop releases are not the same thing as making encrypted ROM dumps (btw, dumpers can't change title screens or do any editing as the games are encrypted*, craptros have not been seen for years).
For starters the eShop version doesn't save to a cartridge so that code is changed. The more relevant point is a working eShop version (that this release will be a derivative of) has existed on the US eShop for quite a while...
*-Apparently the games have unique identifiers in them too.
NOE handle the Australian eShop so a game has to ready in Europe to come out. Unless it is Snapdots on DSi (great game btw) in which case that is the only Australia exclusive eShop release (not sure how that happened, I guess ACB fee had been paid so it made sense to, but the script is so tiny it wouldn't have taken NOE much to translate it).
Australia and Europe are the same region (even if they are separate regions for download codes), using parental controls European carts know ACB ratings and Australian carts know PEGI ratings for instance.
Ghostlight for the most part and Square Enix for P4 IIRC
E_Darkness
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Koei did a few games too, like P3 and Raidou Kuzunoha vs Soulless Army.
Samurai_Heart
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So any explanation to whoever was messing around with Europe's heart with the release date banner changes?
They say late October I'm betting it'll still be November...
They say late October I'm betting it'll still be November...
Magicpaint
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Disgraceful.
So the issue is that Atlus is not able to find an editor (or maybe two) and keep it for all their PAL releases. How Bandai Namco do with Ninokuno, Tales of, Jojo ?
Zeouterlimits
Member
Honestly, I can wait another month.
Certainly afraid the game can't live up to my expectations after all this time.
Certainly afraid the game can't live up to my expectations after all this time.
It has nothing to do with editing, it has to do with publishing. Atlus USA does not have a European presence and there is no real business interest for them to go out of their way to set one up.
Dr. Buni
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Don't get what is so bad about digital release.
Anyway, ATLUS recently have been doing shitty decisions after shitty decisions. I am not surprised by this at all.
Don't jinx it!
I think "publisher" is "editeur" in French. That's why you often see posters who mistakenly write "editor" when they actually mean "publisher".
Dragon1893
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I have lost interest the moment I found out it was going to be digital only. Though I will probably pick it up once the game goes on sales, since Atlus love sales in the US.
Figured as much, there was no source other than that tweet which was written in a stupid way.
Didn't believe it from the start.
Figured as much, there was no source other than that tweet which was written in a stupid way.
Didn't believe it from the start.
thewhitehawk
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I have zero interest in this game unless I happen to pickup an American 3DS. I'm kind of ok with digital releases on the Vita, because Sony has done a decent job of allowing players to use their games on multiple platforms but Nintendo does the opposite.
NIS doesn't have a EU branch either, has arguably comparable target audience, and comparable ressources, yet they don't seem to trouble all that much when it comes to delay between US and PAL releases.
No, seeing how many publisher Atlus went threw, with always some noticeable delay, the problem really lies with them not planning at all the PAL release, which isn't (the planning) that expensive.
They should just plan this PAL release simultaneously with US release. And I don't say that only because I want their games faster, but also for them. By now I'm pretty sure they actually have to put more effort in these releases when they are doing them one year later than they would by just doing it while they are doing the US one, the employees haven moved on on other projects.
Saddest thing of all: Atlus' games target rather hardcore gamers, who are usually pretty informed about such things (which imo is why they were OK doing a e-shop only release, because the target audience would be aware of that, and the lack of exposition in e-shop wouldn't be too big a burden). Yet these hardcore gamers are also the ones that don't like being treated like shit, and being informed, they by now know that's what happening. Less hardcore gamers wouldn't even know the release date was delayed.
Hence sales are probably even worse than what they could be (I know I'm not the only one who boycotted P4A, even though I'd have bought it day one in 2012), while the effort needed by Atlus to publish (or making publish) their games is higher than what it could be if planned ahead. Which makes them regard Europe as not lucratif, and start all over again.
Man don't even joke about that. I will literally import an American PS4 and copy of P5 if that ends up being the case.
With regards to SMT, this is the end of the line for me. I'm not buying it. No physical version and this absurd wait for it's release? Altus can go fuck themselves.
Werewolf Jones
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Everything is dropping in October from Nintendo now. Bayonetta, Smash 3DS, SMT IV. God damn it.
PS4 is region free yo so no worries about that.
I would still like a swift release of P5 in EU though.
Don't worry, this doesn't have to be the last delay
Even tiny XSEED are pretty good at releasing digital titles in Europe. There's often a gap between US and EU but not that big.
So you want them to release a broken game? Ok.
People talking about importing a US PS4 for Persona 5, it isn't region locked.
Also what is the big deal of digital release if thats the only way you can get it? Dual Destinies and AA Collection are both digital as well. We got Senran Kagura digitally in the US.
People talking about importing a US PS4 for Persona 5, it isn't region locked.
Also what is the big deal of digital release if thats the only way you can get it? Dual Destinies and AA Collection are both digital as well. We got Senran Kagura digitally in the US.
shin_velcro
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This. I lost interest at that point my self, now it's just a running gag of SMT+EU
Krustentier7
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Meanwhile in Germany, a salty SMT fan spent the last two hours making this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4hGcP_7Amk&feature=youtu.be
SORRY
(can I get banned for posting my own, silly videos? Still new to this stuff)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4hGcP_7Amk&feature=youtu.be
SORRY
(can I get banned for posting my own, silly videos? Still new to this stuff)
ShogunDarius
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Don't worry, as long as you're not shamelessly promoting yourself it's fine.
Only plausible scenario that would explain this:
Sometime 2014 at Atlus.
"Man, that game is taking an awfully long time to get certified for PAL territories."
- "I know, right? When did you send it in again?"
"ME? Weren't YOU upposed to get this certified?"
- "Ah, shit."
To whoever caused this through sheer incompetence: You made a lot of people very sad, angry or frustrated by being bad at your job. Just saying.
Sometime 2014 at Atlus.
"Man, that game is taking an awfully long time to get certified for PAL territories."
- "I know, right? When did you send it in again?"
"ME? Weren't YOU upposed to get this certified?"
- "Ah, shit."
To whoever caused this through sheer incompetence: You made a lot of people very sad, angry or frustrated by being bad at your job. Just saying.
Right now, as always, I'm happy I bit the bullet and imported a few extra 3DS' so i could ignore it when my European region got analy screwed without preparation.
http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1s7o0h7
I appreciate the sentiment but man what a great way to say nothing
You know...we all consume media. Even domestic sites pick up on the US release dates and keep the free add campaign going for you...not taking advantage of a world wide hype is kinda dumb. Wouldn't surprise me if a coming Direct would ignore this release as well.
http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1s7o0h7
I appreciate the sentiment but man what a great way to say nothing
You know...we all consume media. Even domestic sites pick up on the US release dates and keep the free add campaign going for you...not taking advantage of a world wide hype is kinda dumb. Wouldn't surprise me if a coming Direct would ignore this release as well.
My bad, I talked about publishing (mixing fr/en) but the problem is the same, they will release most of the in PAL land so they should be able to find one or two publishers and keep them to avoid the same awful scheme again and again.
Actually, I just checked on ******** (... yeah I know, but didn't have any other source).
According to them, the PS2 SMT-games did relatively well, doing something like the 2/3rd of US sales, which isn't anything to laugh at.
Only exception would be (again, according to them) Persona 4, but that came out in 2009 here, when the PS2 was effectively dead.
The DS game were not even given a chance, so there's no way to know if a handheld market is there for Atlus games.
Edit: Eh, that site is censored on GAF, didn't know lol. Good thing.
You are like 50 threads to late.
Well most of these "niche" games are never given a chance here. On the PS2 we had a few region wide pushes that actually did well. But, everything Ghostlight...well they are small but have really good para-add-campaigns and great people, great CEs, overall great...heck if you ever meet anyone from Ghostlight/LJ buy them a beer.
Yadayada:
It's seriously time to motion the European commission to allow a region wide rating board so no one can use that as an excuse...Yeah and no one of my reps would care.
lol
All the DLC? Even the ones exclusives to GameStop or EB Games?
Also, it cost 18$ to buy all the DLC, do they really want to put them apart ou will they be free (and not put them in the game to save time)? Buying nearly the same price of the game in DLC sounds kinda ridiculous but, oh well.
I guess I will only buy the plot-related DLC then but erf.
Also, it cost 18$ to buy all the DLC, do they really want to put them apart ou will they be free (and not put them in the game to save time)? Buying nearly the same price of the game in DLC sounds kinda ridiculous but, oh well.
I guess I will only buy the plot-related DLC then but erf.
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