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Dreavus · Oct 23, 2014

My biggest experience with this genre is Monster hunter Tri on Wii, and I had it really bad for a good couple of months. Couldn't remember the last time a game took hold of me like that. It resulted in literally entire days of playing when I could do so.

Seeing Vindictus in the Opening Post makes me want to fire it up again too. I really wish that game had gotten more "to the point" in it's stages. The boss fights were awesome but all the trash leading up to them got tiresome pretty quickly. Might be interesting to try again with all the new classes.

Malyse · Oct 23, 2014

Dreavus said:
My biggest experience with this genre is Monster hunter Tri on Wii, and I had it really bad for a good couple of months. Couldn't remember the last time a game took hold of me like that. It resulted in literally entire days of playing when I could do so.

Seeing Vindictus in the Opening Post makes me want to fire it up again too. I really wish that game had gotten more "to the point" in it's stages. The boss fights were awesome but all the trash leading up to them got tiresome pretty quickly. Might be interesting to try again with all the new classes.

Vindictus would be a perfect game with a create a character and ported to the Vita.

WarRock · Oct 23, 2014

ohlawd said:
welp, can't fit in here

I only enjoy MH. Everything else plays like character action game-lite

why play X or Y when they play like a dumbed down DMC or some shit? >_>

You... have never played CC, God Eater or PSO/PSP. Or DMC, beats me.

Aerocrane · Oct 23, 2014

DreamDrop said:
OT: I get why people like the Miku games, but that voice is awful. The only fictional idol for me is Lumi, I guess.

You should listen to Mitchie M, he manages to make Miku's vocals sound quite natural. Another solution to avoid the mechanical sound is just layering shoegazing guitars on top of the vocals.

DreamDrop said:
Back on topic, earlier in the thread they said the FW demo isn't happening. Linked to dude's Twitter and everything.

Oh, that sucks. I looked up some gameplay and it looks cool. I think I'll place a pre-order on it when I go to town tomorrow.

RalchAC · Oct 23, 2014

My main experience with those games are God Eater Burst, Toukiden and Soul Sacrifice (original). When I tried MHFU I couldn't stand it. I'm willing to give it a chance again since the New 3DS has a second analog stick.

From the bunch I've played, my favorite by far is Toukiden. It has most faults new "hunting action" IPs suffer, but I really liked the combat mecanics (especially the Mitama's) and the designs.

I think I played more than 70 hours of it. I still come back from time to time to do some battles. My favorite combination was Dual Daggers + Speed (the Triangle skill was really useful since you are pretty much defenseless in mid air). I liked the Bow and the Long Sword too.

Hopefully there would be a retail version for Kiwami. Love Naginatas, I'd really like to learn how to use it in combat.

Is DW: Strike Force any good? I'm willing to give it a try if it's decent enough. I think I can find the PS3 version for quite cheap at CEX.

And I may actually get Freedom Wars, since it's for 23 on Amazon.es. I need to get Tales of Hearts R in November though.

NormalFish · Oct 23, 2014

RalchAC said:
My main experience with those games are God Eater Burst, Toukiden and Soul Sacrifice (original). When I tried MHFU I couldn't stand it. I'm willing to give it a chance again since the New 3DS has a second analog stick.

It's probably worth mentioning that most of the impressions are that the analog stick isn't really useful. The lock-on system is just a far more effective way to manipulate the camera. If you didn't enjoy the core gameplay then it won't matter, but the camera solution on both 3DS titles is generally better than a second stick.

Wenger'sBakedBaguettes · Oct 23, 2014

My first experience would be PSO on Dreamcast....back then the whole thing of playing something like that online on a console was mindblowing. Fun game, playing with other people around the world on TV was a blast. I then played PSO Blue Burst or whatever name it had......and when went on to play Monster Hunter Freedom...and then MHFU that I never finished.

Lots of hours put into those games, but mostly lots of satisfying hours.

baekshi · Oct 23, 2014

DreamDrop said:
So, who plans on getting freedom wars next week?

Action Hunting (Society) games would do just as fine.... There wasn't any need to lump PSO and MH in thread title but yeah, let's not discuss this..

Also FW got idol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRDVQOduEx8

Malyse · Oct 23, 2014

RalchAC said:
My main experience with those games are God Eater Burst, Toukiden and Soul Sacrifice (original). When I tried MHFU I couldn't stand it. I'm willing to give it a chance again since the New 3DS has a second analog stick.

From the bunch I've played, my favorite by far is Toukiden. It has most faults new "hunting action" IPs suffer, but I really liked the combat mecanics (especially the Mitama's) and the designs.

I think I played more than 70 hours of it. I still come back from time to time to do some battles. My favorite combination was Dual Daggers + Speed (the Triangle skill was really useful since you are pretty much defenseless in mid air). I liked the Bow and the Long Sword too.

Hopefully there would be a retail version for Kiwami. Love Naginatas, I'd really like to learn how to use it in combat.

Is DW: Strike Force any good? I'm willing to give it a try if it's decent enough. I think I can find the PS3 version for quite cheap at CEX.

And I may actually get Freedom Wars, since it's for 23 on Amazon.es. I need to get Tales of Hearts R in November though.

I was really into it on PS3. But tbh, Tales of Hearts is my favorite game in that franchise, so I'd pick that over Strikeforce.

NormalFish · Oct 24, 2014

baekshi said:
Action Hunting (Society) games would do just as fine.... There wasn't any need to lump PSO and MH in thread title but yeah, let's not discuss this..

Also FW got idol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRDVQOduEx8

That music seems to totally go against the tone of the game lol... Seems they're shoehorning every bit of japanese pop culture they can to appeal to a greater audience. or... something. I'm kind of grasping at straws.

Malyse · Oct 24, 2014

NormalFish said:
That music seems to totally go against the tone of the game lol... Seems they're shoehorning every bit of japanese pop culture they can to appeal to a greater audience. or... something. I'm kind of grasping at straws.

You should play PS before you accuse something of shoehorning stuff in 😂

That game has Col. Sanders in it.

ramyeon · Oct 24, 2014

NormalFish said:
That music seems to totally go against the tone of the game lol... Seems they're shoehorning every bit of japanese pop culture they can to appeal to a greater audience. or... something. I'm kind of grasping at straws.

I am pretty sure it is supposed to be like that. The lyrics of the song and tone of the game don't match the beat and the cute idols. It's intentional. Kind of like the cutesy mascot as well.

Another example is Danganronpa that is violent and depressing but contrasted with the main villain who is a cute bear.

cyborg009 · Oct 24, 2014

Yep I'm getting freedom wars as well, I played the demo a while back on Japanese PSN.

NormalFish said:
That music seems to totally go against the tone of the game lol... Seems they're shoehorning every bit of japanese pop culture they can to appeal to a greater audience. or... something. I'm kind of grasping at straws.

That's the point, even the mascot is all cute.

Spaceking · Oct 24, 2014

What about Phantasy Star Online 3?
Please SEGA, make it happen!

Malyse · Oct 24, 2014

Spaceking said:
What about Phantasy Star Online 3?
Please SEGA, make it happen!

I'll cut you. Don't give them ideas.

Parakeetman · Oct 24, 2014

NormalFish said:
That music seems to totally go against the tone of the game lol... Seems they're shoehorning every bit of japanese pop culture they can to appeal to a greater audience. or... something. I'm kind of grasping at straws.

just goes how much you know since its what made the game even more popular with fans including the cd for sale at comiket.

the real waste is that they did not include them in the actual game as part of the story such as the "idol group" of the particular panopticon you are in within the story.

the issue isnt what you are trying to piece together but more the devs had various things to make it a winning combination (the game) but went and wasted a lot of potential with bad decusions all around.

Parakeetman · Oct 24, 2014

Sammy Samusu said:
Most of us don't care about Frontier.

Most of you wouldnt be able to handle it anyways.

Malyse · Oct 24, 2014

Is there any game series that you think could be made to fit the PSO/MH hunting action genre, a la Dynasty Warriors Strikeforce?

NormalFish · Oct 24, 2014

ramyeon said:
I am pretty sure it is supposed to be like that. The lyrics of the song and tone of the game don't match the beat and the cute idols. It's intentional. Kind of like the cutesy mascot as well.

Another example is Danganronpa that is violent and depressing but contrasted with the main villain who is a cute bear.

cyborg009 said:
Yep I'm getting freedom wars as well, I played the demo a while back on Japanese PSN.

That's the point, even the mascot is all cute.

Parakeetman said:
just goes how much you know since its what made the game even more popular with fans including the cd for sale at comiket.

the real waste is that they did not include them in the actual game as part of the story such as the "idol group" of the particular panopticon you are in within the story.

the issue isnt what you are trying to piece together but more the devs had various things to make it a winning combination (the game) but went and wasted a lot of potential with bad decusions all around.

I get the contrast. I wish I had a nice word for when media/literature uses supposedly positive or happy things to make the bad side of things seem more stark, but I'm lacking. I guess I just don't think that specific instance is well done, tbh. Maybe they do a better job of making everything mesh in-game, but so far I really can't help but feel it's just a way to get attention, rather than an actual story telling tool (unlike in DanganRonpa, which does it quite well).

DreamDrop said:
Is there any game series that you think could be made to fit the PSO/MH hunting action genre, a la Dynasty Warriors Strikeforce?

I still think Joe is dead on the money when he asks for MH/Pokemon cross overs. Here's my pitch:
Team Rocket (or other evil syndicate) has designed giant robot pokemon and is using them to steal pokemon from other trainers! You and your pokemon must team up with other trainers to put a stop to it. Use the newest in pokemon capturing technology -- repurposed in this dire situation -- to inhibit the giant robots so that your friendly pokemon and team members can deal the finishing blows.
It sounds way better in my head, trust me.

Takao · Oct 24, 2014

PS Vita 2000 WiFi - 20,980円

PS Vita TV - 11,480円
PS Vita TV Value Pack - 16,280円

They all come with a PSNova theme and letter from the devs:

Neither includes a copy of the game, though they will be out the same day as the game's launch, November 27th.

The LEs are exclusive to the Sony store.

Pre-order bonuses for the PS Nova game itself: http://www.4gamer.net/games/232/G023268/20141024004/

Malyse · Oct 24, 2014

Takao said:
PS Vita 2000 WiFi - 20,980円

PS Vita TV - 11,480円
PS Vita TV Value Pack - 16,280円

They all come with a PSNova theme and letter from the devs:

Neither includes a copy of the game, though they will be out the same day as the game's launch, November 27th.

The LEs are exclusive to the Sony store.

Pre-order bonuses for the PS Nova game itself: http://www.4gamer.net/games/232/G023268/20141024004/

Naw, bundles that don't come with the game can piss off. Not like we'll be seeing it anyway.

Parakeetman · Oct 24, 2014

Takao said:
PS Vita 2000 WiFi - 20,980円

PS Vita TV - 11,480円
PS Vita TV Value Pack - 16,280円

They all come with a PSNova theme and letter from the devs:

Neither includes a copy of the game, though they will be out the same day as the game's launch, November 27th.

The LEs are exclusive to the Sony store.

Pre-order bonuses for the PS Nova game itself: http://www.4gamer.net/games/232/G023268/20141024004/

thankfully managed to get in my orders for the white vita and psvtv black was tempting but the design is far better on the white model visually.

Parakeetman · Oct 24, 2014

DreamDrop said:
Naw, bundles that don't come with the game can piss off. Not like we'll be seeing it anyway.

didnt want the game with it so worked out fine for me. unless you are one of those lazy asses who cant click the mouse a few more times to order the game on the same site dont see what the problem is. besides first world ones obviously

Takao · Oct 24, 2014

There's a black Vita TV in Japan?

TreIII · Oct 24, 2014

DreamDrop said:
Is there any game series that you think could be made to fit the PSO/MH hunting action genre, a la Dynasty Warriors Strikeforce?

At the risk of sounding trite? Mega Man. Specifically, something based on the X series.

I've always had an idea that basically flowed with the idea of you being a Maverick Hunter OC and that you, along with friends, went out to hunt a variety of bosses (mix of classic bosses, along with perhaps Command Mission-inspired newbies). The whole thing about being able to be "infected" in MH4/G, along with fighting the main progenitors of that infection, only gave me more fuel for the overall idea.

.

Wyndstryker · Oct 24, 2014

Good ol Vindictus. Halloween event is up so if you want to try the game out, you get to see it in it's superior map theme. Halloween themed town is best town

Parakeetman · Oct 24, 2014

Takao said:
There's a black Vita TV in Japan?

no just white was talking about the black vs white vita models

the white 2kv look pretty nice too! my other psv2k is the god eater 2 one

i so hope they dont release a le for ge2br am poor enough as is haha

Malyse · Oct 24, 2014

TreIII said:
At the risk of sounding trite? Mega Man. Specifically, something based on the X series.

I've always had an idea that basically flowed with the idea of you being a Maverick Hunter OC and that you, along with friends, went out to hunt a variety of bosses (mix of classic bosses, along with perhaps Command Mission-inspired newbies). The whole thing about being able to be "infected" in MH4/G, along with fighting the main progenitors of that infection, only gave me more fuel for the overall idea.

.

Ready for me to hurt your heart?

They could base it around the MegaMan Legends engine.

Silphonica · Oct 24, 2014

Parakeetman said:
Most of you wouldnt be able to handle it anyways.

If it's a grind-fest I don't have a problem with that, I already have invested a bajillion hours into MH since '05. That's pretty much a non-issue.

If it's really hard, yes please.

I want frontier ;_;

Parakeetman · Oct 24, 2014

Silphonica said:
If it's a grind-fest I don't have a problem with that, I already have invested a bajillion hours into MH since '05. That's pretty much a non-issue.

If it's really hard, yes please.

I want frontier ;_;

its the hardest in the series just due to being based off of dos and balanced exclusively for online play.

AmethystEnd · Oct 24, 2014

I still play Vindictus on and off. I have a 70+ Fiona, 60+ Evie, 60+ Vella, and 60+ (I think), Lynn. Characters with heavy reliance on perfect timing are my favorite thing in games. Which is why getting Evade and lance hopping through Jho's dragon breath so I could poke him in the chin was my favorite thing to do in MHTri.

I haven't logged into Vindictus in a bit because I'm trying to make sure I have one of those "PLEASE WE WANT YOU BACK" packages for when the new character comes out in a few months, though.

New character is katana in one hand, magic caster in the other hand. Seems interesting enough for a spin.

Silphonica · Oct 24, 2014

Parakeetman said:
its the hardest in the series just due to being based off of dos and balanced exclusively for online play.

One of the main reasons I want frontier was because it was based of DOS.

I loved DOS. If you import the game and run through pcsx2 you can run DOS with an english patch.

Professor Beef · Oct 24, 2014

I miss PSP2

Kadin · Oct 24, 2014

Does anyone play BB on Schtserv? I haven't played in a while but it was a lot of fun when I did. Might have to look into it again. For now, I still have PSO on DC and GC to keep me busy.

I wish I could have gotten into the MH series like I did with PSO. I've got the game on Wii U but I'm simply not a fan.

PKrockin · Oct 24, 2014

Damn, I put a little under 30 hours into MHFU in a week. How did that happen? I was just feeling like I was done with the series for a year or two after so much of MH3U, now I'm about to preorder MH4U. I want to fight these monsters with fixed movesets, behavior and hitboxes. I should stay away from this thread lest I get addicted to something else.

Malyse · Oct 24, 2014

Professor Beef said:
I miss PSP2

So much content. It's still my high water mark.

FreeMufasa · Oct 24, 2014

Professor Beef said:
I miss PSP2

Imagine if PSP2 had been released in 2006 instead of PSU. The series would be so high right now...

RalchAC · Oct 24, 2014

NormalFish said:
It's probably worth mentioning that most of the impressions are that the analog stick isn't really useful. The lock-on system is just a far more effective way to manipulate the camera. If you didn't enjoy the core gameplay then it won't matter, but the camera solution on both 3DS titles is generally better than a second stick.

I still want to give a try to the game since it's been a really long time since I tried a friend's MHFU copy and by then I didn't liked the core mechanics. Things may have change, who knows.

DreamDrop said:
I was really into it on PS3. But tbh, Tales of Hearts is my favorite game in that franchise, so I'd pick that over Strikeforce.

Tales of Hearts is a must. I'm totally getting it. There is no doubt there. And I need to return to Xillia 2 and do some sidestuff too. But that's another story.

The thing is that I can get Strikeforce for 5€. So it's a no brainer. But I want to get this year One Piece game since I've started watching the show recently again (last time I serously considered watching it I was like 15 lol) and Pirate Warriors is a nope since I don't want to be spoiled.

And there is Freedom Wars tempting me with it's low price... But I feel more like buying Unlimited World Red and I don't want a hunting action overload lol.

FreeMufasa said:
Imagine if PSP2 had been released in 2006 instead of PSU. The series would be so high right now...

Was Universe that bad? Like "don't waste your time playing this shit" bad. The can be found for really, really cheap for the 360 (servers are closed, so it's normal). It's a shame that the Portable sub-series was pulled out of the PS Store. I would have bought PSP2 in a heartbeat for my Vita.

Qvoth · Oct 24, 2014

what happened to tencent's monster hunter online? seems like it's been a really long time... would've thought it's released by now

redcrayon · Oct 24, 2014

Man, I'd love to have a fresh Monster Hunter or Phantasy Star game on my Vita. Seems like the odds are against either outside of Japan.

Silphonica · Oct 24, 2014

Qvoth said:
what happened to tencent's monster hunter online? seems like it's been a really long time... would've thought it's released by now

Didn't it only get announced a year ago?

I don't think it's unreasonable it hasn't been released yet, but definitely weird theres been no more hype content like pics or videos.

Professor Beef · Oct 24, 2014

FreeMufasa said:
Imagine if PSP2 had been released in 2006 instead of PSU. The series would be so high right now...

I cry ery teim

Malyse · Oct 24, 2014

FreeMufasa said:
Imagine if PSP2 had been released in 2006 instead of PSU. The series would be so high right now...

Professor Beef said:
I cry ery teim

No thx. PSU sucked in single player, but online wasn't too bad and that thread eventually lead to PSP2i which is IMO the greatest title in the genre. The only flaw is that its a PSP game and not Vita, so no second stick camera (not that it matters much since you can map the dpad to that stick)

OT, but devs need to stop using the rear pad on vita. It's the worst. I'm calling you out SAO. You really think that was where you should put the camera zoom controls, you dumbass?

Brick · Oct 24, 2014

Qvoth said:
what happened to tencent's monster hunter online? seems like it's been a really long time... would've thought it's released by now

I want a PC Monster Hunter so much...

Hikami · Oct 24, 2014

RalchAC said:
Was Universe that bad? Like "don't waste your time playing this shit" bad. The can be found for really, really cheap for the 360 (servers are closed, so it's normal).

Single player was really bad. Don't remember much from the story but Karen was the only likable character for me.
The multiplayer was fun though and the AoTI expansion made it a lot better.
But since the servers are down then yeah, it isn't really worth it for just the single player.

No matter how good PSO2 may be in graphics, combat, etc. I still prefer PSU's online over it because the single lobby/instance system in PSO2 bores me so much. PSU actually had some interesting places to explore.
Though they did finally add the casino back in PSO2.. it's still not as good as PSU's casino.

Malyse · Oct 24, 2014

NoctisXV said:
Single player was really bad. Don't remember much from the story but Karen was the only likable character for me.
The multiplayer was fun though and the AoTI expansion made it a lot better.
But since the servers are down then yeah, it isn't really worth it for just the single player.

No matter how good PSO2 may be in graphics, combat, etc. I still prefer PSU's online over it because the single lobby/instance system in PSO2 bores me so much. PSU actually had some interesting places to explore.
Though they did finally add the casino back in PSO2.. it's still not as good as PSU's casino.

basically this. You couldn't pay me to play PSU single player.

Silphonica · Oct 24, 2014

NoctisXV said:
AoTI expansion.

Me and a friend had been playing online psu for ages, getting absolutely nowhere in level, and every so often some major high level would go by. We calculated that it would take an ungodly amount of hours to get to that level, a level we didn't think would be possible except for the dedicated elite, but more and more started showing up, it wasn't until after we downloaded this expansion that we realised we were effectively doing nothing. I mean I think we grew more levels in 30 minutes than we did in 3 months.

depward · Oct 24, 2014

My history with this genre:

Love Monster Hunter. Just... the best series in my mind.

That being said: I would think that I would like all of these other types of games, right? WRONG!

- Toukiden: having some fun with it but find it to be very much more grindy than MH but battles are very hack and slashy

- Soul Sacrifice: some reason never really clicked with me.

- Phantasy Star: probably the other game series that has "stuck" with me the most... though nothing to really play right now. Last one I played was PSP2 on PSP.

- Ragnarok Odyssey: really excited for this and played a fair amount on launch but never stuck.

So Freedom Wars comes out next week. I really want another hunting game to have its claws into me like MH but don't want it to become another one on this list.

Basically - will wait to hear impressions from fellow Star Hunter Society members on what they think.

WarRock · Oct 24, 2014

TreIII said:
At the risk of sounding trite? Mega Man. Specifically, something based on the X series.

I've always had an idea that basically flowed with the idea of you being a Maverick Hunter OC and that you, along with friends, went out to hunt a variety of bosses (mix of classic bosses, along with perhaps Command Mission-inspired newbies). The whole thing about being able to be "infected" in MH4/G, along with fighting the main progenitors of that infection, only gave me more fuel for the overall idea.

Honestly, it boggles my mind that nobody made a sci-fi version of MonHun where you destroy giant machines to upgrade your robot-character.

Also, noticed OP listed some arguable stuff like FF CC and 356/2 Days, but not Kaiju Busters:

Haven't played either, but as far as I know they are MonHun clones where you play as human soldier (like the ones in the Ultraman series) going against classic kaiju.

Malyse · Oct 24, 2014

WarRock said:
Honestly, it boggles my mind that nobody made a sci-fi version of MonHun where you destroy giant machines to upgrade your robot-character.

Also, noticed OP listed some arguable stuff like FF CC and 356/2 Days, but not Kaiju Busters:

Haven't played either, but as far as I know they are MonHun clones where you play as human soldier (like the ones in the Ultraman series) going against classic kaiju.

That's because I forgot it existed.

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