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Evil Within (PC) patched to give options to remove letterboxing, allow 60 FPS.
- Thread starter Corpekata
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I know the game uses the black bars for performance reasons, but it still boggles my mind. The game looks good in some areas, but isn't exactly the most impressive game on either ps4/x1 catalogue. Both of them should be more than capable of running this without the bars. Blame the tools/engine, not the hardware.
Not saying these consoles could run it without the bars, with better AA and 60fps - that's something for the pc, but at least rock solid 30 and no bars. We have more complex looking games already that run higher than 30, with better AA and impressive particles with no black bars whatsoever. It's a shame cause it's the only thing that bugs me in the game. A few weird chapters/sections aside, loved everything in the game except the technical shortcomings.
Not saying these consoles could run it without the bars, with better AA and 60fps - that's something for the pc, but at least rock solid 30 and no bars. We have more complex looking games already that run higher than 30, with better AA and impressive particles with no black bars whatsoever. It's a shame cause it's the only thing that bugs me in the game. A few weird chapters/sections aside, loved everything in the game except the technical shortcomings.
Hm, maybe I'm wrong... I checked dxdiag, where do I check my 'real' VRAM?
I think that what you are seeing is your system memory (RAM).
Valkyri von Thanatos
Member
Nooope. That's why I won't be playing until Flawless Widescreen updates to be compatible again. The game was perfect for me before, and now I'm stuck with the unacceptable FOV until this is fixed.
I could have sworn it was patched. Didn't DF do a comparison between patched and unpatched.?
Yoshichan
And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
Nah, I definitely have 8GB RAM
You're probably looking at your shared VRAM. Use GPU-Z to check actual VRAM.
That area isn't a great benchmark as the bonfires are extremely unoptimized.
Whenever I would look in their general direction, I would drop 20 frames instantly.
There was no 4GB 560Ti, 2GB was max. Dxdiag reports it weird. gpuzHm, maybe I'm wrong... I checked dxdiag, where do I check my 'real' VRAM?
Has this improved performance, is something close to constant 60 possible?
robotzombie
Member
Wait, one thing I'm confused by, is the FOV in a place where this fix is literally just removing the black bars, or does this cause the game to be zoomed in further?
I see people complaining about the FOV still and I'm just wondering if those are people who've adjusted the FOV with flawless widescreen even further than normal
I see people complaining about the FOV still and I'm just wondering if those are people who've adjusted the FOV with flawless widescreen even further than normal
-MD-
Member
I don't believe this included any optimization going by what people are saying, though they're calling it patch #1 and it's only 2 weeks out from release so optimization could still come.
It seems like it's just people who adjusted the FOV further.
Valkyri von Thanatos
Member
Are you talking about Flawless Widescreen? Or something else?
No, the FOV doesn't change with the letterbox removed. Some of us were using FOV fixes to go beyond the default settings. Those fixes don't work right now because of this new update.
DarkChronic
Member
I'm at work but I still need some clarifications on the FOV if you guys know. Does removing the black bars do the same thing it did when enabling the console (increasing the zoom?) Or is the FOV normal?
Also, someone said in this thread the cheatengine FOV fix no longer works with this patch. Can anyone else confirm?
EDIT:
oh god dammit.
Also, someone said in this thread the cheatengine FOV fix no longer works with this patch. Can anyone else confirm?
EDIT:
oh god dammit.
It never ends!
SlaughterX
Banned
Nice, glad I bought the PC version.
The fact that they label the 60fps lock as "60fps V-Sync" is interesting to me.
Has anyone tried enabling that, and using Nvidia Inspector to force V-sync off? I'm curious if it's actual V-sync or just a framerate limiter.
I was thinking that a good way to get stable frametimings out of the game might be to disable the in game framerate limiter, then using Nvidia inspector to cap the framerate at 60 and force V-sync to 60 max.
Has anyone tried enabling that, and using Nvidia Inspector to force V-sync off? I'm curious if it's actual V-sync or just a framerate limiter.
I was thinking that a good way to get stable frametimings out of the game might be to disable the in game framerate limiter, then using Nvidia inspector to cap the framerate at 60 and force V-sync to 60 max.
I am around two thousand percent certain that if PCs can't do it, then consoles sure can't.
It's a bit like saying "great, now they should put this lamborghini technology in my geo metro."
CambriaRising
Member
From what I've played, there is nothing in this game that the consoles couldn't pull off. Nothing. The game doesn't look great and the lighting effects are things we've seen for years. This game (and engine really) is just a technical mess.
AndyMoogle
Member
1GHz over his will definitely make a difference in this game.
Crimsonclaw111
Member
So does the game run well at 60fps now? Guess I'll find out since I still got 2 chapters left.
Peotical Injection
Member
lol, just finished it yesterday. Got zero achievements because of the force aspect ratio command. I will definitely play it again.
AndyMoogle
Member
Aka "the performance will go to shit if we change the FOV or remove the black bars on consoles".
Mohonky
Member
Hmmmmm? The fov is fine for me, its the same as it was for flawless widescreen, unless some of you were pulling the camera way back.
Anyway got the update, no more black bars, same fov I was using with flawless widescreen and while my gtx670 cant handle 60fps, its definitely chugging along at greater than 30fps and is noticable crisper to inputs (where I was timing for a few extra ms delay on disarming bomb traps, its now hitting right on the mark so I had to readjust).
Seems like a big improvement all round for me. All they need to fix now is how much of a system hog this game appears to be for no apparent reason.
Anyway got the update, no more black bars, same fov I was using with flawless widescreen and while my gtx670 cant handle 60fps, its definitely chugging along at greater than 30fps and is noticable crisper to inputs (where I was timing for a few extra ms delay on disarming bomb traps, its now hitting right on the mark so I had to readjust).
Seems like a big improvement all round for me. All they need to fix now is how much of a system hog this game appears to be for no apparent reason.
El Sabroso
Member
how is the game now for ppl with 21:9 monitors ?
It has been playable at any aspect ratio and FOV since flawless widescreen released their fix. I believe that was only one day after release.
Thanks, think I'll keep Steam in offline mode until Flawless WS updates then.
a secret-boss
Banned
looks like gonna trade in my PS4 copy
Diablohead
Member
eh I doubt it, unless they run the game at a lower res due to performance.
Crimsonclaw111
Member
What's the FOV at now? I had it at 90 using flawless widescreen.
Valkyri von Thanatos
Member
Glad to help. I was planning on getting through Chapter 10 today, but the boss I'm at was already pretty difficult to fight before, now with such a low FOV, I can barely see anything around Sebastian. So I guess I'll try out Siren Bloodcurse (got in on PSN sale).
El Sabroso
Member
paperspace
Member
Any word on how this performs on 144Hz displays?
(i.e. is the 30fps lock = 72fps lock etc.)
(i.e. is the 30fps lock = 72fps lock etc.)
Looks fine, I don't understand why they chose the black bars thing.
I'm secretly hoping The Order devs will change their minds
Full screen rendering or a stable frame rate. You can't have both with those visuals.
Ready at Dawn bit off more than they could chew and I suspect the PS4 final hardware was not as powerful as they thought. Rather than dumb down the graphics, they went with the black bars just like Mikami did.
Purely speculation of course but it makes sense to me. I'm actually surprised that Ubi hasn't done the same for AC unity. From the sounds of it, they're going to be ok with the frame rate being shit.
alexandros
Banned
Cool stuff, nice to see that Bethesda is adding options.