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neo2046 · (04-01-2006, 07:43 PM)

Tales of the Tempest promotion Video (short)
http://s18.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0...R1L8XNHS6O36KC
not bad :)

jarrod · (04-01-2006, 07:48 PM)

Looks fantastic. Nice to see JP developers finally starting to push the hardware too. :)

Matix · (04-01-2006, 07:49 PM)

Sweet, loving the music as well !!

Sagitario · (04-01-2006, 07:57 PM)

Downloading...

Thanks :) ...

Blackcherry · (04-01-2006, 08:08 PM)

look great! the characters/monsters animations are great too. the only aspect we need to worry about now is if the game is good O_o

arab · (04-01-2006, 08:21 PM)

Can someone rehost or YouTube/Googlevideo this? My WMP freezes everytime I try and watch. :[

Mejilan · (04-01-2006, 08:24 PM)

Fighting of the Spirits! Fighting of the Spirits! Fighting of the Spirits! Fighting of the Spirits!

Does this title, then follow in the ToP/ToS line of Tales games??

AndoCalrissian · (04-01-2006, 08:24 PM)

Anyone know what codec this needs to play?

Mejilan · (04-01-2006, 08:26 PM)

VLC and Nero Showtime play it fine for me.

ethelred · (04-01-2006, 08:28 PM)

Originally Posted by Mejilan:

Fighting of the Spirits! Fighting of the Spirits! Fighting of the Spirits! Fighting of the Spirits!

Does this title, then follow in the ToP/ToS line of Tales games??

A new version of Fighting of the Spirits is in this game? :O

SOLD.

Someone please host this or something, because it's not playing for me.

AndoCalrissian · 08:34 PM

Getting VLC now, thanks.

EDIT: Wow, looks awesome. I've never played a Tales game before, but I think i'll definitely pick this one up.

Blackcherry · (04-01-2006, 08:32 PM)

there it is http://youtube.com/watch?v=irI6UCO4mFI

imastalker co. · (04-01-2006, 08:33 PM)

now there's a must buy.

ethelred · (04-01-2006, 08:34 PM)

Damn, that's fucking excellent. Looks great, and sounds spectacular.

How is it that this song always manages to be so damned cool through every one of its iterations?

Beezy · (04-01-2006, 08:37 PM)

Woo! Please don't have another racism plot. That's all I ask.

Golden Darkness · (04-01-2006, 08:39 PM)

Originally Posted by ethelred:

A new version of Fighting of the Spirits is in this game?

Actually, I think this is from the PSX version of Tales of Phantasia.

jj984jj · 11:03 PM

Wow. Looks awesome.

Originally Posted by Bebpo:

Would've been nice if they just had made it 2d so it would look gorgeous like Eternia.

You know, I originally wished they had done that as well and was surprised when they hadn't make the game completely 2D. I mean, it really looks like they pushed the game back to polish it up and it really doesn't look as bare as it originally did at all. But yeah, it still really would have looked much nicer if they went more with the Eternia PSP route with the game.

Bebpo · (04-01-2006, 08:40 PM)

Wow, that looks kinda really shitty. The low-polygon block heads didn't really seem so apparent in the blurry hand-cam videos or the scans.

Looks great in battle and when walking around towns and stuff, but for cutscenes...

Would've been nice if they just had made it 2d so it would look gorgeous like Eternia.

Blackcherry · (04-01-2006, 08:40 PM)

Originally Posted by Golden Darkness:

Actually, I think this is from the PSX version of Tales of Phantasia.

*cough* the SNES version you mean

ethelred · (04-01-2006, 08:42 PM)

Originally Posted by Golden Darkness:

Actually, I think this is from the PSX version of Tales of Phantasia.

It's not. I just put on that version, and while they're fairly similar, there are definitely a couple of differences (at least, so it seems to me).

Chris Michael · (04-01-2006, 08:46 PM)

Originally Posted by Blackcherry:

there it is http://youtube.com/watch?v=irI6UCO4mFI

THANK YOU!!!!

Holy crap, this game looks awesome. Namco's really putting some effort into this.

This and the new Zelda look marvelous. I love my DS. DS cel shading FTW!

Mama Smurf · (04-01-2006, 08:48 PM)

If you set the video to 50% you get a very close version to how it'll actually look on the DS, and looks about a billion times better.

Seriously, don't watch it at the resolution it naturally does, blowing up DS screens/videos is ridiculous even in 2D games, its even worst in 3D.

marc^o^ · (04-01-2006, 08:54 PM)

Cell Shading seems to be the way to go to have 3D games look fine on the DS. But FFIII looked also great on the screenshots. RPG lovers should appreciate the DS this year.

ethelred · (04-01-2006, 08:56 PM)

Originally Posted by marc^o^:

Cell Shading seems to be the way to go to have 3D games look fine on the DS. But FFIII looked also great on the screenshots. RPG lovers should appreciate the DS this year.

We should, but I still want more. :)

Beezy · (04-01-2006, 08:59 PM)

Originally Posted by Mama Smurf:

If you set the video to 50% you get a very close version to how it'll actually look on the DS, and looks about a billion times better.

Seriously, don't watch it at the resolution it naturally does, blowing up DS screens/videos is ridiculous even in 2D games, its even worst in 3D.

It does look a lot better like that. Btw, that enemy at the end looks JUST like Blanka. Green skin, red hair, and wearing small brown shorts.

PhoenixDark · (04-01-2006, 09:08 PM)

The character designs are ugly imo. And I wonder about camera controls (while in battle). Also, how will the Wi Fi actually work? Will there be specific missions built just for Wi Fi, or will you be able to play through levels/dungeons with other players?

Other than that, I have no complaints. I'm getting it.

Koopakiller · (04-01-2006, 09:10 PM)

Originally Posted by PhoenixDark:

The character designs are ugly imo. And I wonder about camera controls (while in battle). Also, how will the Wi Fi actually work? Will there be specific missions built just for Wi Fi, or will you be able to play through levels/dungeons with other players?

Other than that, I have no complaints. I'm getting it.

Wasn't the wifi thing an april fools joke?

Oblivion · (04-01-2006, 09:11 PM)

Originally Posted by Bebpo:

Would've been nice if they just had made it 2d so it would look gorgeous like Eternia.

I would have liked that too, but from what I hear doing it in 2D can be more difficult than 3D.

pitt_norton · (04-01-2006, 09:21 PM)

Originally Posted by myself:

I didn't know that Tales of the Tempest was to have an enemy cameo by the electrifying one and only Blanka from SFII!

I sarcasm.

gjb-sensei · (04-01-2006, 09:23 PM)

Looks good, sounds good. Can't wait until it's out.

Error · (04-01-2006, 09:30 PM)

who's composing the soundtrack for this one? Sakuraba?

looks great btw.

Mejilan · (04-01-2006, 09:39 PM)

Looking so much better than when it was first unveiled! Oh man, I hope it comes here!

GaimeGuy · (04-01-2006, 09:39 PM)

Originally Posted by ethelred:

Damn, that's fucking excellent. Looks great, and sounds spectacular.

How is it that this song always manages to be so damned cool through every one of its iterations?

Because it's a sakuraba battle theme? :P

Kurosaki Ichigo · (04-01-2006, 09:41 PM)

Originally Posted by Bebpo:

Would've been nice if they just had made it 2d so it would look gorgeous like Eternia.

QFT...

I'd kill for another 2D Tales...but where is the question...if it isnt DS...so sad. Maybe in a Narikiri Dungeon, but it isnt the same.

Anyway, at least Namco is trying this time. Its the best looking 3D DS game I remember. FFIII has a good competitor, but I guess the last one will look better because it isnt going to be released as soon as ToT.

Wi-Fi should be local, quests with 2-4 players.

Inomata designs, Sakuraba music, some websites say another Namco internal team doing this.

I guess next week we should see Team Destiny's new game if they aren't the ones doing this.

Jiggy · (04-01-2006, 11:37 PM)

Cool, day one purchase if it comes to the US--and it had better, especially if alternate outfits and/or an unrevealed secret female character exist in the game.

Oh, and Mama Smurf isn't kidding about watching the video at 50%. I was almost in the "it should have been 2D" camp until I tried that.

Originally Posted by Mejilan:

Fighting of the Spirits! Fighting of the Spirits! Fighting of the Spirits! Fighting of the Spirits!

Does this title, then follow in the ToP/ToS line of Tales games??

Fighting of the Spirit is in other Tales games also, as far as I know.

GaimeGuy · (04-02-2006, 12:02 AM)

Originally Posted by Jiggy37:

Cool, day one purchase if it comes to the US--and it had better, especially if alternate outfits and/or an unrevealed secret female character exist in the game.

Oh, and Mama Smurf isn't kidding about watching the video at 50%. I was almost in the "it should have been 2D" camp until I tried that.

Fighting of the Spirit is in other Tales games also, as far as I know.

Nope. the only two tales games its in are ToP and ToS.

speedpop · (04-02-2006, 03:02 AM)

Looks good, like a campy version of Tales of Symphonia.

Mejilan · (04-02-2006, 03:39 AM)

To be fair, Fighitng of the Spirits has shown up in:

Tales of Phantasia SNES
Tales of Phantasia PSOne
Tales of Phantasia GBA
Tales of Symphonia GCN
Tales of Symphonai PS2

Perhaps one of the ToP handheld spinoffs as well?

GaimeGuy · (04-02-2006, 03:41 AM)

Originally Posted by Mejilan:

To be fair, Fighitng of the Spirits has shown up in:

Tales of Phantasia SNES
Tales of Phantasia PSOne
Tales of Phantasia GBA
Tales of Symphonia GCN
Tales of Symphonai PS2

... and your point is?

Mejilan · (04-02-2006, 03:46 AM)

That I think Jiggy is wrong, but given how many times the ToP/ToS games were ported, it's understandable?

mugwhump · (04-02-2006, 04:54 AM)

It looks great, except for the hair THE HAIR THEHAIR THEHAIRHAIRTHEHAIR :X

Senretsu · (04-02-2006, 06:05 AM)

this game keeps surprising me the more I see of it! and hear too, nice music :)

BorkBork · (04-02-2006, 06:11 AM)

Few things:

-Love the theme. That was my favorite piece of music from Tales.
-Game actually moves much better than I expected from the screenshots.
-Hate hate hate the character art still.

Originally Posted by Beezy:

Woo! Please don't have another racism plot. That's all I ask.

Agreed 100%

bummyhead · (04-02-2006, 07:12 AM)

Originally Posted by jj984jj:

Wow. Looks awesome.

You know, I originally wished they had done that as well and was surprised when they hadn't make the game completely 2D. I mean, it really looks like they pushed the game back to polish it up and it really doesn't look as bare as it originally did at all. But yeah, it still really would have looked much nicer if they went more with the Eternia PSP route with the game.

I think it's somewhat wierd that PSP got the 2d game, and Ds got the 3d game, it just seems odd.

Mejilan · (04-02-2006, 07:27 AM)

Is it somewhat weird that the PSP got the port, and the DS got the original title? There's a like a duality there!

On a more serious note, I like the character art, but the main hero is probably the worst-designed RPG character... ever. What fuck the?

Chris Michael · (04-02-2006, 07:27 AM)

Originally Posted by bummyhead:

I think it's somewhat wierd that PSP got the 2d game, and Ds got the 3d game, it just seems odd.

I think it's a nice change. Whenever PSP gets a 3D game in a series, DS is always shunned with a GBA+ game. It's nice to know they actually put some effort into this and pushed the DS's capabilities. Note, I'm not saying Eternia is some GBA+ game, it looks fucking beautiful. In fact, after this game I'd actually like to see Namco make a DS Tales game with visuals like Rebirth (holy crap that game looked awesome).

Either way though, if this game was on the PSP with untammered graphics Bebpo would probably be hailing it as the greatest handheld game ever.

Galactic Fork · (04-02-2006, 07:30 AM)

Originally Posted by Mama Smurf:

If you set the video to 50% you get a very close version to how it'll actually look on the DS, and looks about a billion times better.

QFT! Wow... It looks great at that resolution! Definitely impressed by Namco. I'm still really curious how the controls will work. I hope it can be done completely with the touch screen. And I hope they use the 128MB DS card, or has the max gone up?

Mejilan · (04-02-2006, 07:30 AM)

I'm playing through ToE now, and for some reason, it's gripped me on the PSP in a way that the PSOne version (which I also own) never could. Perhaps I'm just on a Tales trip, having recently finished ToP on the GBA.

mugwhump · (04-02-2006, 08:50 AM)

^^
Wooooooooo, yeah, I'm on a Tales trip too, I'm just playing Phantasia GBA now, bout 38 hours in.
I'm loving it

I just got to the part where
you get to the underwater city :O So awesome.
It's like ToP's Zeal
How much longer till I get the ninja girl in my party?

BTW, how's Destiny 2/Eternia? I've been thinking about playing the PS version, how is it?
At least, compared to ToP/ ToS.

Mejilan · (04-02-2006, 08:54 AM)

I think I had just under 70 hours clocked in ToP when I did it, but I did all of the extra bonus shit too. Freakin' fantastic game.

I got ToE on the PSOne ages ago, but never really got into it. Now that it's on the PSP and more accessible than ever, I'm really digging it. It feels (in combat) like a very refined ToP. Fast, brutal, and surprisingly difficult, and seemingly without the game-breaking exploits of ToP. The story and characters, however, are total garbage so far. Ah well. It's pretty, got good music, and fun as hell to play. Good enough for me!

Edit - You could potentially get Suzu not long from now. Getting Suzu was one of the first things I did immediately after Thor. But it's not recommended you do it that early unless Cless has got some crazy equipment and levels on him, for the part of the game you're in now.