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(11-11-2014, 08:42 PM)
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Assassin's Creed Unity falls short of the performance standard set by last year's Black Flag, featuring considerably more variable frame-rates under load on both consoles.
Given the immense graphical upgrade on offer, this isn't so surprising, but what comes as a bit of a shock is that the Xbox One version frequently out-performs the PS4 game in more detail-rich areas, such as locations littered with NPCs in the packed Parisian streets.

Quite why PS4 isn't rendering at a higher resolution is certainly a bit of a puzzler - in addition to GPU resources, it is worth bearing in mind that memory could be a factor too, especially bearing in mind the complexity of Assassin's Creed Unity's next-gen renderer.

Assassin's Creed Unity: PS4 vs Xbox One Frame-Rate Test

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/di...mance-analysis

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// Mod Edit:

Here's the framerate in a big crowd:

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http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/di...mance-analysis

As we approach the first anniversary of the new wave of consoles, it seems that the relative processing capabilities of the PlayStation 4 and Xbox One are a known quantity. The majority of multi-platform tests we've conducted so far point to a scenario where the Sony console matches Microsoft's offering point-for-point, with the added benefit of an extra-generous portion of additional GPU power, often allowing for higher resolutions. However, our tests with Assassin's Creed Unity reveal something very different from the multi-platform norm. Visually it appears identical on both consoles, but in the majority of scenarios that challenge the game's 30fps cap, our tests reveal that it is the Xbox One that takes the lead.

Ubisoft stoked controversy when it revealed that both console versions of Unity would operate at a native resolution of 1600x900 - a state of affairs quite unlike the vast majority of pixel-bound sub-1080p multi-platform titles, including Watch Dogs and Battlefield 4, where PlayStation 4 has always enjoyed a resolution advantage.

"We decided to lock them at the same specs to avoid all the debates and stuff," Unity producer Vincent Pontbriand told Videogamer. "Technically we're CPU-bound. The GPUs are really powerful, obviously the graphics look pretty good, but it's the CPU [that] has to process the AI, the number of NPCs we have on screen, all these systems running in parallel.

"We were quickly bottlenecked by that and it was a bit frustrating," he continued, "because we thought that this was going to be a ten-fold improvement over everything AI-wise, and we realised it was going to be pretty hard. It's not the number of polygons that affect the frame-rate. We could be running at 100fps if it was just graphics, but because of AI, we're still limited to 30 frames per second."

Certainly, from a visual perspective, Assassin's Creed Unity finally brings the series into the new generation, and the results are stunning. The new engine delivers a massive upgrade over last year's instalment, boasting significant improvements in levels of geometry detail on the characters and environments, more complex texturing, and new lighting and shader models that work beautifully in helping to create an almost photo-realistic look to the game - although the characters often break the illusion, appearing distinctly stylised but encroaching into the uncanny valley at the same time. One of the biggest upgrades comes in the form of a dramatic increase in the amount of NPCs present in the game world, which can go into the low hundreds under specific conditions. It's an ambitious vision - but it comes at the expense of raw performance.


Frame-rates in Assassin's Creed Unity are far more unstable compared to Black Flag. Under load, neither version manages to achieve a consistent 30fps, but surprisingly it's the Xbox One game that delivers a smoother experience.
Assassin's Creed Unity falls short of the performance standard set by last year's Black Flag, featuring considerably more variable frame-rates under load on both consoles. Given the immense graphical upgrade on offer, this isn't so surprising, but what comes as a bit of a shock is that the Xbox One version frequently out-performs the PS4 game in more detail-rich areas, such as locations littered with NPCs in the packed Parisian streets. The opening clip in our video below perfectly demonstrates the difference between the two consoles. Wading through dozens of NPCs in a crowded square, performance drops down to around 20fps for a sustained duration on the PS4 while the Xbox One achieves a 5fps lead. In a later gameplay test traversing the rooftops, we see frame rates regularly fluctuate between 25-30fps across both consoles, but here the Xbox One game sticks more closely to the upper end of that spectrum than its Sony equivalent.

It's worth pointing out that performance is still a major issue on Microsoft's system in busy scenes loaded with NPCs and environmental detail, but the less severe drops in frame-rate mean that the gameplay isn't impacted to the same degree as it is on the PS4. Controls feel tangibly more responsive, and the judder - although still a problem - isn't quite as jarring.

Outside of more open areas, Assassin's Creed Unity manages to deliver a consistent 30fps on both consoles for prolonged periods of time, adding a welcome degree of smoothness that complements the generally excellent next-generation graphical upgrade. Scripted sequences taking place in restricted environments allow the engine to display dynamic scenery that is ripped apart before your eyes, along with a range of particle effects, alpha, and post-processing that blends together into a consistent presentation without unwanted judder. Combat is also mostly solid too, although some scenes see frame-rates slightly impacted on the Xbox One while remaining stable on the PS4 - a curious about-turn on the busier exterior scenes. Cut-scenes are the one area where the Sony platform hands in a consistent performance advantage over its counterpart when the game fails to hit its 30fps target.


It's difficult to avoid the conclusion that Assassin's Creed Unity has a host of bottlenecks preventing it from sustaining its 30fps target. In cut-scenes, we are less likely to be affected by CPU performance and in this scenario, it's perhaps not surprising that we see PS4 take a consistent lead in all of our test clips.
The results are certainly interesting, and totally unexpected - enough for us to double-check that the day one patch is installed (it is) and to try the game on another PlayStation 4 (the results are much the same). Barring a few glitches here and there, overall image quality looks like a match between both PS4 and Xbox One. A 900p resolution is confirmed, while anti-aliasing, NPC count and other factors that may impact performance appear to be a complete match. We're especially curious to check out the PC version of the game (not in our hands yet) which may offer some more clues about Unity's overall performance profile.

In the meantime, the reasons behind the resolution parity and Xbox One's performance advantage remain something of a mystery. We know that the Microsoft hardware has more CPU time available, and that animation and AI tend to stress processor hardware heavily. The sheer volume of objects on-screen means that the CPU is working overtime in order to prepare the draw-call data for the graphics hardware. There's also the possibility that the Microsoft compiler may be producing more efficient code than its Sony equivalent, though it's hard to believe that even this combination of potential factors could explain the performance differential we see here in many places. Quite why PS4 isn't rendering at a higher resolution is certainly a bit of a puzzler - in addition to GPU resources, it is worth bearing in mind that memory could be a factor too, especially bearing in mind the complexity of Assassin's Creed Unity's next-gen renderer. Of course, the reality may be rather more mundane: we may simply be looking at a game where the developers ran out of time - there's certainly the sense that both console versions of the game aren't running at their best.


It's early days with the code yet, and we'll report back with our full analysis later in the week.

Seems like Ubisoft has really done a terrible job with the PS4 version.
Screams like totally unoptimized :/ The game needed to be delayed just like Watch Dogs.
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Its happening.

God that framerate is horrible, worse on PS4?

The framerate spends most of its time in the 20's, thats so fucking bad. Ladies and Gentlemen, next generation!
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This thread will not end in unity.
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What happened to the parity?
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Given the immense graphical upgrade on offer, this isn't so surprising, but what comes as a bit of a shock is that the Xbox One version frequently out-performs the PS4 game in more detail-rich areas, such as locations littered with NPCs in the packed Parisian streets.

It's not such a shock if you believe Ubisoft's claim that it's CPU limited. And given the nature of the game that doesn't seem so far-fetched.
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lol what the...
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God Lord. I'm disguted.
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:lol

Given the immense graphical upgrade on offer, this isn't so surprising, but what comes as a bit of a shock is that the Xbox One version frequently out-performs the PS4 game in more detail-rich areas, such as locations littered with NPCs in the packed Parisian streets. The opening clip in our video below perfectly demonstrates the difference between the two consoles. Wading through dozens of NPCs in a crowded square, performance drops down to around 20fps for a sustained duration on the PS4 while the Xbox One achieves a 5fps lead. In a later gameplay test traversing the rooftops, we see frame rates regularly fluctuate between 25-30fps across both consoles, but here the Xbox One game sticks more closely to the upper end of that spectrum than its Sony equivalent.

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Originally Posted by Vidpixel

This thread will not end in unity.

lol

Also lol at XOne performing better than PS4.
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Here we go.
FZZ
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Haha I'm ready for this

Get your shit together Ubi
Gaffercake
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Xbox One version better? See? No parity after all, don't know what you guys were complaining about.

/s
The End
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Yep, sounds like MS embedded engineers with Ubi to clean up what they could and Sony... didn't.
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This is gonna be a hilarious thread.
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Better on XB1? Holy crap
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We're especially curious to check out the PC version of the game (not in our hands yet)

Ohh, wanted to read that analysis specially.
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lol at XOne performing better than PS4.
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Well, well, well Ubi. What about that supposed Parity to avoid debates and stuff?
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Assassin's Creed Unity falls short of the performance standard set by last year's Black Flag, featuring considerably more variable frame-rates under load on both consoles. Given the immense graphical upgrade on offer, this isn't so surprising, but what comes as a bit of a shock is that the Xbox One version frequently out-performs the PS4 game in more detail-rich areas, such as locations littered with NPCs in the packed Parisian streets.

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Haha this will go well. Ubi you so silly.
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Not to spin up conspiracy theory, but I imagine co-marketing meant MS was more hands-on with the XB1 version...



...also, isn't the XB1 cpu a smidge faster (seems this game is very CPU-intensive)?
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ubi pls
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This is the final twist of the knife, really. There is absolutely no reason to think that the PS4 version is at 900p because of anything other than MS's involvement.
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Woah. XB1 version is better.
omonimo
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Originally Posted by Durante

It's not such a shock if you believe Ubisoft's claim that it's CPU limited. And given the nature of the game that doesn't seem so far-fetched.

Dat 3% overclocked. Sorry but lol. It's completely illogical what's happened here.
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Too many popcorn worthy threads, not enough popcorn.
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Anything about this game not been a trainwreck?
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'Parity'
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MS paid for parity and 5 additional frames.

/s (but not really)
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I know it's drawing way less, but GOD DAMN Ground Zeroes shits all over this with its perfect 60fps.
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Thanks Phil Spencer.

Xbox One fans really must feel first class now.
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I'm so glad this game was a free pack in. The sad thing is that they will still sell boatloads and not change
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THE GAP IS CLOSED!
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Haha. Don't I'm now if better is the term when we are talking about 21 or 25 fps. Both are shit.
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I've been waiting for this.

Going in now.
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This is going to be amazing.
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1000 employees had one job to do.
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Oh good, no parity.
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Well, it seems that people overreacted about parity.
It also looks like that Ubisoft ran out of time... this should've been a 2015 title.
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With 10+ studios.. How long are the credits?
Of all those people, no one thought there were problems or offered solutions.. Like a less ambitious scale or reducing npc?
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Parity in favor of the xbox, I love it
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Lmao, what the fuck? How did that happen?
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So fucking glad I cancelled preorder for this on the PS4 and got this on the Xbox One now.

Just started the game now and the framerate is an issue but bloody hell at the PS4 version being even worse than this, definitely couldn't live with that.
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Originally Posted by GrantDaNasty

Not to spin up conspiracy theory, but I imagine co-marketing meant MS was more hands-on with the XB1 version...



...also, isn't the XB1 cpu a smidge faster (seems this game is very CPU-intensive)?

You just broke your own conspiracy
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Originally Posted by The End

Yep, sounds like MS embedded engineers with Ubi to clean up what they could and Sony... didn't.

Just to be clear, this game runs like shit on xbox too. I've experienced what felt like single-digit framerates more than a few times in my limited play

whatever advantage they found is probably just due to the higher cpu clock
The Llama
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Maybe they weren't actually lying about it being CPU-bound? So weird.
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This will end well...

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