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Petition to get the Ninja Gaiden games released on Steam/PC
- Thread starter Miguel81
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Yaiba didn't do well anywhere.
ThoughtsOfSpeaking
Banned
Honestly, I think a trilogy could be a decent seller and Team ninja are a competent port team.
Say what you want about the sigmas, they still had little to no major framerate drops on the PS3. Sigma 1 was one of the best HD remasters on the system, even years later. Even the Vita versions, while not as good framerate wise had some of the best IQ on the vita even now.
Just patch that damn dinosaur fight out of razors edge. PLEASE.
Say what you want about the sigmas, they still had little to no major framerate drops on the PS3. Sigma 1 was one of the best HD remasters on the system, even years later. Even the Vita versions, while not as good framerate wise had some of the best IQ on the vita even now.
Just patch that damn dinosaur fight out of razors edge. PLEASE.
InfiniteNine
Rolling Girl
I think what they mean is that we'll get Sigma and not Black. Well with the nice PC community for these types of games maybe we can see a mod to get it to Black standards?
ThoughtsOfSpeaking
Banned
Yeah. Sigma 2 with blood is not nearly as offensive. It just needs a bit higher enemy count and the return of the windmill shuriken.
Side note: Does anybody know what issue TN have with that weapon? It was taken out of NG2 which was annoying enough, but its also removed from the Sigma + port as well. Why?
Is it a copyright issue?
What was different between black and the original vanilla ninja gaiden on Xbox? I never played black
Poetic.Injustice
Member
You'll have a better chance if you contact them on twitter and start some sort of hashtag campaign.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
You won't get Black tho, it'll be Sigma
Rachel missions in 1080p woot
Rachel missions in 1080p woot
Sigma and Sigma 2 are considered by Team Ninja the definitive remasters of those games despite both games missing multiple things from their previous titles that hamper the challenge of NG (Reduced difficulty, removing blood and beheadings, getting weapons earlier than expected, editing boss fights to make easier, reduced texture quality--Sigma is a technical downgrade compared to black/NG2) or are just added in the game for no fucking reason (BOOOOB PHYSICSSSS). While the new content like the new characters are fun, they aren't really around long enough to make the game differ (Rachel isn't fun to play at all.)
The definitive NG experience is arguably Black and MG2. Sigma isn't worth it.
FlyingSaucer
Banned
Ninja Garden Black please. But I would buy Sigma without hésitations too.
Sigma:
-Got rid of the "EVIL DARK DRAGON BLADE... A SWORD SAID TO BE CARVED OUT OF THE BONES OF A BLACK DRAGON..." intro
-Added new (pointless in many peoples opinion) bosses
-Rachel chapters
-Dropped the mission mode into a DLC mode (or I'm thinking NG2)
-Added a new weapon: Twin Swords (forgetting the actual name) which isn't in Black.
There has been news about DOA 5 Last Round on PC, but we're still very much in the dark when it comes to NG.
It also gets rid of just about anything that isn't a corridor or an enemy arena. A lot of the back and fort looking for keys segments, platforming challenges and "puzzles" so to speak are gone.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
This has always been my #1 complaint. They took the adventure out of the action-adventure game. Its the thing that separates it from NG2/3 hours and hours of corridors and waves of enemies, pacing completely fucked. Very little in the way of Tairon's hub world area, or even the backtracking/exploration required for The Aquaducts or the Caverns.
That part in the cavern was infuriating though (when you have to shoot the timed thing and pass through the archers).
But in general i agree, Black was near perfect, camera problems aside (which were never fixed, in any 3d NG).
I'd gladly take Sigma over nothing though, it's not *that* bad.
NG2/Sigma2 to me is more complicated, honestly, because i think both are deeply flawed and both have advantages/play very differently from one another.
Miles Quaritch
Member
My rule is to give a series two chances before giving up, so I'm willing to give it one more shot.
I do agree though, I don't have much faith in Hayashi, but I'm open to being proven wrong and he did make some strides in the right direction with Razor's Edge. He'll never be as good as Itakgi though, but then very few people could fill those shoes.
Crimsonclaw111
Member
I'll sign the petition when I'm done in the shower. However,the text of the petition could use a revision to sound more professional.
Just my suggestion, the idea itself is sound.
Just my suggestion, the idea itself is sound.
Oh don't me wrong NG2 isn't perfect by any means but I just didn't like Sigma 2 at all in comparison to the 'original' version. Flaws and all I'd take the original 2 anyday, still one of my favourite games on the 360.
FlyingSaucer
Banned
Crimsonclaw111
Member
Sorry to be off-topic but... you browse GAF while taking your shower ?
Well taking a bath sometimes I tablet read, it's pretty relaxing.
Tempesta di Fuoco
Banned
I would do anything for this. ANYTHING.
But I guess Tecmo only wants PC Gamers to play Yaiba Ninja Gaiden Z.
But I guess Tecmo only wants PC Gamers to play Yaiba Ninja Gaiden Z.
Tempesta di Fuoco
Banned
The only major problem with Razor's Edge was they didn't do anything to make the enemies and environments interesting at ALL. Ninja Gaiden 1 and 2 you fight some really weird shit in some really cool environments. In Razor's Edge you fight military dudes in jungles the entire time.
If Hayashi can take what he learned with Razor's Edge and applies it to a more interesting campaign, NG4 could be great.
This gets posted in almost every single NG thread here:
http://youtu.be/VDAiYc_sy8A
Not really relevant I know to the topic but it still needs to be said.
http://youtu.be/VDAiYc_sy8A
Not really relevant I know to the topic but it still needs to be said.
entremet
Member
Bro.
mcz117chief
Member
All this hate against Razor's Edge is just crazy. It is easily the best game in the series, there is not a single thing that I can say is worse in it than it's predecessors. It plays pretty much identically like the previous games, I did a back to back play of all the modern Ninja Gaiden games and Razor's Edge is by far my favourite, I really would not go back to the previous games for any reason.
The only aspect of Razor's Edge that is bad is the story, which is pretty average (just like every other Ninja Gaiden game honestly), everything else is top notch: graphics, music, cutscenes, gameplay, flow, everything works flawlessly. And as always, it is hard as hell (probably the hardest modern NG game).
The only aspect of Razor's Edge that is bad is the story, which is pretty average (just like every other Ninja Gaiden game honestly), everything else is top notch: graphics, music, cutscenes, gameplay, flow, everything works flawlessly. And as always, it is hard as hell (probably the hardest modern NG game).
This. I'd be ecstatic if Ninja Gaiden Black came, but if it was Sigma, I'd probably wait for a sale.
ThoughtsOfSpeaking
Banned
mcz117chief
Member
Is that all ? Can you please explain ? I played him like 3 days ago on hard and I don't remember anything infuriating or lazy about him.
Ewww, no thanks.
i've never played the games, but those seem like some dumb changes
why would they remove all those enemies? were they trying to make the game easier?
The QTEs alone make it the worst.
Pretty sure it was a performance thing. It runs like complete ass on the Xbox 360 at times.
ThoughtsOfSpeaking
Banned
Its by far, the worst boss I have ever fought in an action game bar none.
The fight is so far removed from any previous ninja gaiden game its not oeven a joke.
His attack pattens are random, there is no reward for skillfully dodging his attacks, he can easily chip away your life..
I just refuse to play further. Ive beat him once in Vanilla NG3 but when I got him on Razors edge I just turned my console off. I can't.
Some were some weren't.
In particular, nerfed projectile spamming, and removing the need to aim the bow in first person, in Sigma 2, were very positive changes.
Other changes, like removing some bullshit bosses, were positive but half assed, and some were straight up bad (like making all enemies more resistant, but having much less of them).
And, i suspect, mostly due to technical reasons, like removing the gore/various cut limbs on screen.
The end result is that Sigma2 plays somewhat closer to NG1 than NG2, where you were cutting people up left and right, and the screen was FILLED with people at all times.
I think an mix of the two would be ideal.
mcz117chief
Member
That is just not true. His attacks have a very simple pattern. During the first stage he makes 3 dashes and then falls, during his second stage he makes 4 dashes and then falls, nothing to it. I beat him easily without a hit.
What QTEs ? The climbing ? Or the boss QTEs finishers ? There are like 10 during the whole game, maybe a few more but they are definitely not in any significant amount to be even considered a problem.
I read somewhere that the changes from 2 to Sigma 2 were to make the game difficult and stratigic like NGB is.
Totally didn't work lol.
I started playing the NG series with the sigma games and went out and got a 360 only for NGB/NG2.
Differences between the games is night and day. The sigma games should have never been made imo.
rockman zx
Member
If they do it, it will be the Sigma games.
Its a vocal minority that like to shit on the Sigma games.
legacyzero
Banned
NG2... The only game that ever made me rage hard enough to break a controller.
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