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Hideo Kojima Receives Bradford City of Film Cinematography Award
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He is a better game designer than director.
tbh, idk. He practically groomed himself through his childhood to be in Film.
I believe he couldn't find a job at this time. So he became a legendary games creator. Best decision ever.
fabricated backlash
Member
One step closer.
Twin Tails
Member
Konami owns his soul, he can't escape Metal Gear.
Alx
Member
Well making a bunch of cutscenes and making a movie isn't exactly the same thing. For starters he still needs to prove he can tell a complete story in less than 3 hours.
ElBoxyBrown
Banned
Kojima should at least make a short indie film. With his popularity and connections he could afford to do it.
You can bet all commercial's are approved by him. For example the funny japanese GZ one.
but yeah an amazing live-action commercial like the Advanced Warfare would be pretty cool.
I feel you, Kojima. I currently dream of being a film director.
That's bizarre, but good for him.
Honestly, it would probably suck. He's probably better at making movie-game hybrids.
Release date pls
Honestly, it would probably suck. He's probably better at making movie-game hybrids.
Tizoc
Member
I wonder if the Bradford City people realize they gave the award to a man who in the past had a discussion between 2 characters occur via floating blob heads, included a horse poop button to his upcoming game, as well as let you fulton sheep and other manner of ridiculous things.
Congrats to Kojima though =3 but it's a shame that when it comes to Japanese directors barely a handful's names are recognized.
Congrats to Kojima though =3 but it's a shame that when it comes to Japanese directors barely a handful's names are recognized.
Haunted
Member
no shit
Palculator
Unconfirmed Member
I can only think of Telltale games and probably Naughty Dog games as even having cinematography.
Team ICO too, if they even still exist.
You are probably right, in that it's not really an accomplishment but those two don't even have good cinematography in their cutscenes.
imfinnegan
Neo Member
As much as I respect Hideo Kojima for his legendary contributions to games as a medium, as a cinematographer myself I'm kind of bummed out that this award would be given to a video game designer, and that he'd furthermore accept it. I don't know what the requirements of this particular award are, but it seems a bit disingenuous based on what cinematography actually is.
Cinematography is the art and science of motion picture photography. It's not a slight to the medium by any means, but there is no photography in video games. There is no physical space which to light, no camera or lens with which to frame, no capture format that's undergoing chemical or digital information acquisition. Video games just lack everything that cinematography stands for as an art and science. Now, that's not to say that video games can't be cinematic -- obviously games like The Last of Us and The Walking Dead remind us more of movies than perhaps they do of games, but just because other artistic mediums exemplify some sort of mimicry to the cinema do not automatically qualify them as the cinema. A painter decides what to include in the frame of his canvas the same way a cinematographer chooses what goes in the frame of his scene, but that doesn't make the painter a cinematographer nor the cinematographer a painter. Cinematography and painting are just fundamentally different arts, and the same goes for cinematography and video game design.
It makes me think that this award is just a PR thing.
Cinematography is the art and science of motion picture photography. It's not a slight to the medium by any means, but there is no photography in video games. There is no physical space which to light, no camera or lens with which to frame, no capture format that's undergoing chemical or digital information acquisition. Video games just lack everything that cinematography stands for as an art and science. Now, that's not to say that video games can't be cinematic -- obviously games like The Last of Us and The Walking Dead remind us more of movies than perhaps they do of games, but just because other artistic mediums exemplify some sort of mimicry to the cinema do not automatically qualify them as the cinema. A painter decides what to include in the frame of his canvas the same way a cinematographer chooses what goes in the frame of his scene, but that doesn't make the painter a cinematographer nor the cinematographer a painter. Cinematography and painting are just fundamentally different arts, and the same goes for cinematography and video game design.
It makes me think that this award is just a PR thing.
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I'm no expert so correct me if i'm wrong but isn't this what they do with the FOX Engine?
and why should he not deserve that award? this is a "Award for Cinematography in Videogames"
ThoughtsOfSpeaking
Banned
While I appreciate this perspective, id argue that you are more arguing from the perspective of a DOP and not from a cinematographer.
Cinematography techniques are very much used in videogame design. Light is light, whether artifical or natural. Lilewise with lenses, framing and even information acquisition. Just because you can totally control your subject does not mean you do not have to follow similar conventions to produce convincing imagery.
If we keep things within such narrow definitions, technically we cannot award anyone who isnt using natural lighting in their movies either.
Love Deterrence
Member
Basically, fuck him for winning an award! Congrats.
Palculator
Unconfirmed Member
Cute and original.
Amazing meme man but Kojima's games actually hold up in the gameplay department. The amount of control you have over Snake in MGS4 puts many games with stealth systems in 2014 to shame.
Sadly, this
He have all the influence of great directors to make great things, but as long as he can't detached himself from Konami, he couldn't.
brandonh83
Banned
Seriously, what the hell is wrong with people. He's earned it.
This "Kojima already makes movies lol" thing is incredibly nonsensical. Do some people get a glitched version that only plays unskippable cutscenes and automatically skips the gameplay segments?
Feel free to complain about the amount and length of cutscenes, but you can skip them, and there's an amazing game there with super refined mechanics and high replayability.
I'm excited for The Phantom Pain's story, but I'm even more excited about the crazy shit that you can do during gameplay, and invading other people's bases.
Feel free to complain about the amount and length of cutscenes, but you can skip them, and there's an amazing game there with super refined mechanics and high replayability.
I'm excited for The Phantom Pain's story, but I'm even more excited about the crazy shit that you can do during gameplay, and invading other people's bases.
He earned it, he's a great director. His weakness lies in his writing, not his direction and cinematography.
Wow that MGS3 movie had some of the best gameplay on the PS2 I wonder how they did it
Wow that MGS3 movie had some of the best gameplay on the PS2 I wonder how they did it
Nintendoga
Member
I think nowadays Konima prefers the gaming medium, while incorporating a lot of his cinematography skills into them.
I'm surprised nobody ever went up to him and said "we could use someone like you in the movie world" back in the 80's/early 90's. Shit like Snatcher and Policenauts were very ahead of their time when it came to storytelling.
brandonh83
Banned
His writing is sometimes really good as well, at least for the context and the story/character arcs are usually very competent and fleshed out (sometimes a bit too much, haha). He's way more understanding of story structure than many game designers. I mean yeah, he's wacky as hell, but I think the MGS games in general have far, far better storytelling and writing than other "cinematic" games like Uncharted. Uncharted has pretty good dialogue and characters, but the stories in 2 and 3 are severely unfocused.
As over the top and nonsensical as MGS is, when you look at the actual core narratives, it's pretty straightforward. They always have this central theme that resonates through the entire story and that ends up defining the characters (for example the impact The Boss' actions have upon not only Snake, but Eva as well). For better or worse, the story and characters in his games linger in my mind far longer than most in the industry. MGS3 just celebrated it's tenth year, and that ending still gives me goosebumps.