A Starfox-like on DS by Nintendo

Thrawn · (05-02-2006, 05:48 PM)

Miyamoto said to a French journalist that a new shoot (like Starfox 2 : Lylat Wars) will be shown during the E3 conference. Miyamoto really wanted to make this on Super Famicom a few years ago but the hardware was too old, so the project was in standby until the arrival of the Nintendo DS.

SantaC · (05-02-2006, 05:50 PM)

starfox 2 beta exist for snes, doesn't it?

evilromero · (05-02-2006, 05:50 PM)

Star Fox 2 was essentially finished. But why does a "shooter" have to be SF2?

clearacell · (05-02-2006, 05:51 PM)

Hopefully this turns out better than the other shooter I had on the DS, Nanostray

brandonh83 · (05-02-2006, 05:51 PM)

New Starfox on Wii, plz. But a DS one would be nice too.

Blackcherry · (05-02-2006, 05:51 PM)

Originally Posted by Thrawn:

Miyamoto said to a French journalist that a new shoot (like Starfox 2 : Lylat Wars) will be shown during the E3 conference. Miyamoto really wanted to make this on Super Famicom a few years ago but the hardware was too old, so the project was in standby until the arrival of the Nintendo DS.

STAR FOX 2?!??!?!?! ....let's hope it is :)

Originally Posted by evilromero:

Star Fox 2 was essentially finished. But why does a "shooter" have to be SF2?

he said a snes project that wasn't published, must be Star Fox 2

Joseph Merrick · (05-02-2006, 05:51 PM)

starfox-like, but not starfox? sounds weird and makes starfox adventures even more pointless in my mind.

Thrawn · (05-02-2006, 05:54 PM)

Miyamoto said it's not Starfox, but a new shooter.

Blackcherry · (05-02-2006, 05:54 PM)

Originally Posted by SantaCruZer:

starfox 2 beta exist for snes emulation, doesn't it?

fixed :)

-Actually, there's 2 betas of that game IIRC

SantaC · (05-02-2006, 05:55 PM)

Originally Posted by Thrawn:

Miyamoto said it's not Starfox, but a new shooter.

I am not surprised. The last 2 starfox games has made the franchise ice cold :(

Barf_the_Mog · (05-02-2006, 05:55 PM)

I'm still waiting for a decent follow-up of Star Fox and Star Fox 64.

Zerodoppler · (05-02-2006, 05:55 PM)

Leak-a-ton. E3 is ruined.

SantaC · (05-02-2006, 05:56 PM)

Originally Posted by Blackcherry:

fixed :)

-Actually, there's 2 betas of that game IIRC

oooh thanks! That's hawt.

SantaC · (05-02-2006, 05:57 PM)

Originally Posted by Zerodoppler:

Leak-a-ton. E3 is ruined.

things sure are starting to leak now.

OverHeat · (05-02-2006, 05:59 PM)

Why starfox 2 wasnt release if it was finished anyone know?

jett · (05-02-2006, 06:00 PM)

I wonder what's the reason behind Nintendo canning Starfox 2? It seems it was pretty far into development.

Keyser Soze · (05-02-2006, 06:00 PM)

Cocky Little Freeks
Uncle Annnnnnnnnndros
Do A Barrel Roll
Location Confirmed Sending Supplies
Use Bombs Wisely
TWIN BLASTERS!!

Blackcherry · (05-02-2006, 06:01 PM)

Originally Posted by OverHeat:

Why starfox 2 wasnt release if it was finished anyone know?

My good friend wikipedia says:

Quote:

Star Fox 2s release was most likely cancelled because:

* It was too expensive to develop for a system at the end of its prime.
* Nintendo did not want to drive customers' attention away from the yet-to-be-released Nintendo 64.
* Nintendo may have already planned a Nintendo 64 Star Fox-title and did not want to release two separate games.
* The game was to be released at a time too near to when next-generation consoles (at the time) PlayStation and Sega Saturn were coming out.

Although the game's release was cancelled for the SNES, some of the gameplay and ideas were salvaged and transferred to Star Fox 64.

"We borrowed several ideas. All-Range mode, Multi Player mode, and the Star Wolf scenaria [sic] all came from Star Fox 2. I'd say 60% of SF64 comes from the original game, 30% from SF2, and 10% is entirely new." — Shigeru Miyamoto, Nintendo Power [3] (January 1997)

Doogdogg · (05-02-2006, 06:08 PM)

StarFox 2 would be awesome to have. StarFox 64 was my most played N64 game by far.

brandonh83 · (05-02-2006, 06:08 PM)

Starfox 2 has a pretty good soundtrack... but I still like the original game's OST the best, even over SF64's.

evilromero · (05-02-2006, 06:09 PM)

Originally Posted by brandonh83:

Starfox 2 has a pretty good soundtrack... but I still like the original game's OST the best, even over SF64's.

I'll never understand why Nintendo ditched the amazing music from SF1 (and some of 2) for the far more generic shit in SF64. Nothing beats the Corneria theme from SF1. Nothing. Fuck you Nintendo for killing a great thing.

Jiggy · (05-02-2006, 06:14 PM)

Has potential as long as the in-game dialogue stays just as campy as in Star Fox 64.

brandonh83 · (05-02-2006, 06:16 PM)

Originally Posted by evilromero:

I'll never understand why Nintendo ditched the amazing music from SF1 (and some of 2) for the far more generic shit in SF64. Nothing beats the Corneria theme from SF1. Nothing. Fuck you Nintendo for killing a great thing.

That, and the actual SF1 theme you hear during say, the end credits. Man that shit was great.

ahmad · (05-02-2006, 06:17 PM)

what is up with Nintendo revealing games a week before their conference. Shouldn't they keep it all a secret???

Drakken · (05-02-2006, 06:18 PM)

Originally Posted by Keyser Soze:

Cocky Little Freeks
Uncle Annnnnnnnnndros
Do A Barrel Roll
Location Confirmed Sending Supplies
Use Bombs Wisely
TWIN BLASTERS!!

Man, those quotes remind me how much I enjoyed that game. I wish they'd make another Starfox like that, instead of stuff like Adventures/Assault. I just don't get why companies make decisions like that.

Two options:

#1: Great, unique game that most people like
#2: Decent, more generic game that some people like, but most don't

"Let's go with #2!"

brandonh83 · (05-02-2006, 06:19 PM)

Assault was actually pretty decent aside from the on-foot levels.

which was like 95% of the game

Thrawn · (05-02-2006, 06:19 PM)

Quote:

what is up with Nintendo revealing games a week before their conference. Shouldn't they keep it all a secret???

Well, the guy who tells us the news have known it since a month, but he works in a French webzine and he had to wait before revealing the existence of the game.
And Miyamoto hesitated to give the news.

Koomaster · (05-02-2006, 06:22 PM)

Originally Posted by Keyser Soze:

Cocky Little Freeks
Uncle Annnnnnnnnndros
Do A Barrel Roll
Location Confirmed Sending Supplies
Use Bombs Wisely
TWIN BLASTERS!!

Wing Damage!

Man, I can hear those lines play out in my head and I haven't touched a SF game in years.

I can still even hear the voice of the scramble sequence; "Degree, degree, Wing N Fighters prepare for launch."

Kobun Heat · (05-02-2006, 06:23 PM)

GODDAMMIT MIYAMOTO

i was working on the exclusive of the century

what do you do

tell the french

THE FRENCH

Today is Get Drunk At Work Tuesday

brandonh83 · (05-02-2006, 06:24 PM)

Quote:

Man, I can hear those lines play out in my head and I haven't touched a SF game in years.

Yeah but I bet "Do a barrel roll!" sticks out the most.

Error · (05-02-2006, 06:24 PM)

Originally Posted by Kobun Heat:

GODDAMMIT MIYAMOTO

i was working on the exclusive of the century

what do you do

tell the french

THE FRENCH

Today is Get Drunk At Work Tuesday

Jacobi · (05-02-2006, 06:25 PM)

a new franchise playing like star fox ? hawt

Tyrone Slothrop · (05-02-2006, 06:30 PM)

starfox is a franchise that never really got its due credit. the original and its N64 successor were the only real games there were for the series ... it deserved more

Aft Dread Pressure · (05-02-2006, 06:31 PM)

This needs to be WFC enabled, obviously.

brandonh83 · (05-02-2006, 06:32 PM)

Originally Posted by Aft Dread Pressure:

This needs to be WFC enabled, obviously.

It'd be perfect for WFC, maybe even moreso than Mario Kart well IMO

Drakken · 06:37 PM

Originally Posted by brandonh83:

Yeah but I bet "Do a barrel roll!" sticks out the most.

Man, I can still hear all these quotes so well. Such memorable characters. :)

"Andross's enemy is my enemy."
"My emperor! I've faaiiiled youuu!"
"How's THIS?!"
"What the heck?"

This is fun.

EDIT: I found a site with .wav files of most/all of the dialogue in the game!

http://starfox64.baldninja.com/sf64snds.htm

boutrosinit · (05-02-2006, 06:35 PM)

Whatever happened to the GBA homebrew conversion of Starfox? it was the whole first level and was executed with much greatness if I remember correctly.

Koomaster · (05-02-2006, 06:35 PM)

Originally Posted by brandonh83:

Yeah but I bet "Do a barrel roll!" sticks out the most.

I would put that at #3 behind "Use Bombs Wisely" and "Wing Damage"! Oh man, I loved the dialogue of SF!

brandonh83 · (05-02-2006, 06:38 PM)

What does Star Wars and Star Fox have in common?

ALL THE DIALOGUE CAN BE TURNED INTO SEX JOKES AHAHAHA

"Here comes a big one!"

Doogdogg · (05-02-2006, 06:38 PM)

"keep shooting we go lots of mislles" -Slippy (SF64)

Link1110 · (05-02-2006, 06:40 PM)

Quote:

GODDAMMIT MIYAMOTO
i was working on the exclusive of the century
what do you do
tell the french
THE FRENCH
Today is Get Drunk At Work Tuesday

I'm french! Why do you think I have this outrageous exclusive? You silly king!

Zerodoppler · (05-02-2006, 06:40 PM)

Originally Posted by Drakken:

EDIT: I found a site with .wav files of most/all of the dialogue in the game!

http://starfox64.baldninja.com/sf64snds.htm

Nice find.

"I can't believe I lost to this scum!"

PhoenixDark · (05-02-2006, 06:40 PM)

So, it's not Star Fox...it's a game that plays like Star Fox?

huh?

evilromero · (05-02-2006, 06:40 PM)

I think it'd work great on the DS personally. The touch screen controls fit the mold of controlling the arwing, especially if they stick with the structure Namco established (on-foot and on rails).