Nintendo Wii: TIME Magazine Exclusive - Page 6

Beowvlf · (05-07-2006, 08:10 PM)

Originally Posted by Fallofmart:

Seriously, you sound like a child who's jealous after a new born. Nintendo aren't just dealing with the hardcore anymore, deal with it. If you don't like it, stop complaining. The 360 and PS3 aren't going to dissapear into thin air when Wii is released! You still have 2 hardcore traditional consoles.

That has absolutely nothing to do with my post. Good job.

bogg · (05-07-2006, 08:11 PM)

wiiii FUCK YEAH.
But where is mario?!?!

JoshuaJSlone · (05-07-2006, 08:11 PM)

Originally Posted by fortified_concept:

I'm not at my best but I swear this makes absolutely no sense to me. So let me get this straight. It's necessary not to listen to hardcore gamers all the time because they have to satisfy the casual customers too. Is that what he means? But (as far as the name is conserned) I've asked casual gamers and they find the name even more retarded and embarrassing than I do. WHAT THE HELL IS HE TALKING ABOUT?

He's not talking about the name there. He's just saying that they want to make a splash with new experiences. People weren't clamoring for Brain Age, Nintendogs, 3D GTA, analog sticks, or touch screens until they saw or tried them.

Error · (05-07-2006, 08:11 PM)

funny how the he found the game with the worst graphics to be the most fun.

DeathbyVolcano · (05-07-2006, 08:11 PM)

Originally Posted by bogg:

wiiii FUCK YEAH.
But where is mario?!?!

Wario64 · (05-07-2006, 08:13 PM)

i suck, i cant find it on nexis-lexis. what should i search? searching for nintendo doesnt show it

I Push Fat Kids · (05-07-2006, 08:13 PM)

When I think about using the Wiimote....and seeing the 'supposed' size of Twilight Princess...I really think it might be 100 hour title. If it really makes it that much more fun, its going to be VERY easy to get sidetracked.

Holy shit at how cool Zelda is going to be

jamesinclair · (05-07-2006, 08:15 PM)

Originally Posted by Wario64:

i suck, i cant find it on nexis-lexis. what should i search? searching for nintendo doesnt show it

Time (Chicago) and then Nintendo.

Incidently, Ive always wondered if universities have access to the NPD. But I keep forgetting to ask.

Error · (05-07-2006, 08:16 PM)

Originally Posted by Heian-kyo:

This new Nintendo attitude that they keep spewing out is starting to become tiresome and damn near offputting. This holier-than-thou air of superiority that Nintendo is conveying with regards to the direction of the Wii is absurd, hypocritical and narrow-minded. It's so ridiculous that the path they themselves road along for 20+ years, they are now trying to convince us is all of a sudden archaic and detrimental to gaming on the whole, and the Wii, the only true bastion of innovation (because innovation in games should have more to do with the controller, not, you know, the actual games), is giving the consumer an experience Sony and Microsoft could never hope to achieve.

I know I'll probably get ragged on for this, but honestly, I find it insanely arrogant for Nintendo to near completely downplay 30 years of videogame innovation and evolution simply because they're deciding to use a different controller. It continually distracts me from just focusing on what they show next week, irregardless of the other guys, and hoping it turns out to look fun.

jesuschrist you never fucking stop.

and Iwata is right, have they listened to the hardcore audience all the time. Nintendo would have created Gamecube 2 with the same specs of 360 and sold like 15 million worldwide.

Zombie James · (05-07-2006, 08:16 PM)

Originally Posted by Heian-kyo:

This new Nintendo attitude that they keep spewing out is starting to become tiresome and damn near offputting. This holier-than-thou air of superiority that Nintendo is conveying with regards to the direction of the Wii is absurd, hypocritical and narrow-minded. It's so ridiculous that the path they themselves road along for 20+ years, they are now trying to convince us is all of a sudden archaic and detrimental to gaming on the whole, and the Wii, the only true bastion of innovation (because innovation in games should have more to do with the controller, not, you know, the actual games), is giving the consumer an experience Sony and Microsoft could never hope to achieve.

I totally agree. I can't stand Nintendo's doom-and-gloom attitude towards the industry either when it's clearly doing very, very well. It's like, "If we're not doing well the industry must be the problem, not us."

DeathbyVolcano · (05-07-2006, 08:17 PM)

Originally Posted by _leech_:

I totally agree. I can't stand Nintendo's doom-and-gloom attitude towards the industry either when it's clearly doing very, very well. It's like, "If we're not doing well the industry must be the problem, not us."

Well, you see, you just plain can't stand Nintendo period, based off all of your posts.

gofreak · (05-07-2006, 08:17 PM)

Excellent to have confirmation about Zelda

I cannot wait to see that. I do hope they're holding some surprises for Tues, though, including Mario..

jooey · (05-07-2006, 08:17 PM)

Quote:

I think Nintendo may have these tech demos for sale on the virtual console? Pack-ins?

You people wish for this with every system but IT NEVER HAPPENS. You'd all bitch about there not being enough real games anyway.

Zerodoppler · (05-07-2006, 08:18 PM)

So I guess Wario Ware, Red Steel and Zelda will be the big three come E3? Not bad, I suppose.

DECK'ARD · (05-07-2006, 08:18 PM)

Virtual broom balancing FTW!

DeathbyVolcano · (05-07-2006, 08:18 PM)

Originally Posted by Zerodoppler:

So I guess Wario Ware, Red Steel and Zelda will be the big three come E3? Not bad, I suppose.

I doubt that's all.

Archie · (05-07-2006, 08:19 PM)

heyyyyy more people bitching about Nintendo this has never been done before!

Peru · (05-07-2006, 08:19 PM)

Originally Posted by Zerodoppler:

So I guess Wario Ware, Red Steel and Zelda will be the big three come E3? Not bad, I suppose.

No no no no.. wario ware will be great fun. But it's just small enough an announcement to give to Time as a preview.

Johnas · (05-07-2006, 08:20 PM)

Originally Posted by Zerodoppler:

So I guess Wario Ware, Red Steel and Zelda will be the big three come E3? Not bad, I suppose.

Metroid Prime 3. And I'm still expecting Mario, haters begone.

Whether you like MP or not, Nintendo will almost assuredly give it lots of attention. Remember last year? It's all we saw (though it wasn't much).

Pedigree Chum · (05-07-2006, 08:21 PM)

The entire article has been posted, head to OA for more deets.

It sounds great, the dude at Time tried out Wario Ware (!). At a low price I think it's going to be hard for any hardcore gamer to ignore.

fortified_concept · (05-07-2006, 08:22 PM)

Originally Posted by JoshuaJSlone:

He's not talking about the name there. He's just saying that they want to make a splash with new experiences. People weren't clamoring for Brain Age, Nintendogs, 3D GTA, analog sticks, or touch screens until they saw or tried them.

I get it, but isn't it what they do with the name too? Why exclude it? The name "Wii" is as hated by hardcore gamers as other Nintendo decisions like considering design more important than the technology of the console.

littlewig · (05-07-2006, 08:23 PM)

Originally Posted by _leech_:

I totally agree. I can't stand Nintendo's doom-and-gloom attitude towards the industry either when it's clearly doing very, very well. It's like, "If we're not doing well the industry must be the problem, not us."

Yea, because spending 900 million dollars on a product that you hope will come profitable sometime in the future is really smart business.

Sony and MS are screwed if Nintendo's strategy proves to be a booming success.

Beowvlf · (05-07-2006, 08:24 PM)

Originally Posted by Archie:

heyyyyy more people bitching about Nintendo this has never been done before!

I just want less "the industry is doomed without us, the Wii is pure innovation the rest is the same old shit, better technology is worthless, blah blah blah" and more "hey look, it's Mario 128, PilotWiings and Zelda: TP and they're fun as all hell, come see".

Too much to ask?

LegendofJoe · (05-07-2006, 08:25 PM)

Originally Posted by Ancestor:

Metroid Prime 3. And I'm still expecting Mario, haters begone.

Whether you like MP or not, Nintendo will almost assuredly give it lots of attention. Remember last year? It's all we saw (though it wasn't much).

Hell Yeah! I fully expect Mario to make the show this time as well, Smash Brothers on the otherhand will probably be unveiled at a later date.

Rocked · (05-07-2006, 08:26 PM)

Quote:

I just want less "the industry is doomed without us, the Wii is pure innovation the rest is the same old shit, better technology is worthless, blah blah blah" and more "hey look, it's Mario 128, PilotWiings and Zelda: TP and they're fun as all hell, come see".

Too much to ask?

It's called PR - all three of them do it.

And Nintendo's biggest games in the last year have indeed been new or faily recent franchises - Animal Crossing, Brain Training and Nintendogs.

AniHawk · (05-07-2006, 08:26 PM)

Originally Posted by Heian-kyo:

I just want less "the industry is doomed without us, the Wii is pure innovation the rest is the same old shit, better technology is worthless, blah blah blah" and more "hey look, it's Mario 128, PilotWiings and Zelda: TP and they're fun as all hell, come see".

Too much to ask?

I too hate the canned competitive lines company CEOs throw out, but that's really a stupid thing to hang on to.

"I'M NOT PLAYING THREE SIXTY BECAUSE MOORE SAID IT'S LIKE LIVING A LUCID DREAM. SO THERE."

BorkBork · (05-07-2006, 08:28 PM)

Originally Posted by Heian-kyo:

I just want less "the industry is doomed without us, the Wii is pure innovation the rest is the same old shit, better technology is worthless, blah blah blah" and more "hey look, it's Mario 128, PilotWiings and Zelda: TP and they're fun as all hell, come see".

Too much to ask?

It's part of their PR. What do you expect them to say? We sucked balls this generation and got our console marketshare taken by Microsoft? Our console matches up nowhere technically near the competition?

They'll definitely be doing the latter part of your statement during E3, don't worry about that.

littlewig · (05-07-2006, 08:29 PM)

Originally Posted by Heian-kyo:

I just want less "the industry is doomed without us, the Wii is pure innovation the rest is the same old shit, better technology is worthless, blah blah blah" and more "hey look, it's Mario 128, PilotWiings and Zelda: TP and they're fun as all hell, come see".

Too much to ask?

Nintendo is trying to become the market leader again, you're not going to do that if you don't attack and make some changes.

You think Sony got where they were because they showed off Crash bandicoot at E3? No, they humilated Nintendo, their business, and showed the rest of the industry how thinks ought to be done.

Guess what, the ways things are done now are hurting the industry. Spending millions to make one game, one hardware, while in the meantime you are appealing to less and less people is not smart.

The only way to show the industry that it's going the wrong direction is by attack it, expanding it, and showing how things ought to be.

AzureRonin · (05-07-2006, 08:29 PM)

Originally Posted by _leech_:

I totally agree. I can't stand Nintendo's doom-and-gloom attitude towards the industry either when it's clearly doing very, very well. It's like, "If we're not doing well the industry must be the problem, not us."

That reasoning makes no sense since in effect Nintendo recognized that there was a problem with the way their company was heading and so introduced some esoteric ideas into their marketing philosophy.

Paradoxal_Utopia · (05-07-2006, 08:34 PM)

Originally Posted by Pedigree Chum:

The entire article has been posted, head to OA for more deets.

It sounds great, the dude at Time tried out Wario Ware (!). At a low price I think it's going to be hard for any hardcore gamer to ignore.

Couldn't find it.

Beowvlf · (05-07-2006, 08:34 PM)

Hmm, point taken on the PR comments guys. It seems I guess I'm just paying more attention to it then I should. It's great that we'll see some actual games and have an idea of how it works so soon too. It'll put things into perspective alot more.

DevilsRejection · 09:13 PM

I'm used to the Academic scene where you can share articles you merely have to source them properly.

If this is a violation then please remove my article, but do not ban me.

This is my first post and I merely want to provide content to everyone. My source is properly cited, I see no issue but I am unfamiliar with the rules.

Mod Note: Do not post full text from English language publications. Only SUMMARIZE its contents.

Wario64 · (05-07-2006, 08:44 PM)

Originally Posted by DevilsRejection:

Here ya go

bye bye

Netrunner2k2 · (05-07-2006, 08:45 PM)

Originally Posted by Wario64:

bye bye

Poor guy.

lancubap · (05-07-2006, 08:45 PM)

Originally Posted by littlewig:

Nintendo is trying to become the market leader again, you're not going to do that if you don't attack and make some changes.

You think Sony got where they were because they showed off Crash bandicoot at E3? No, they humilated Nintendo, their business, and showed the rest of the industry how thinks ought to be done.

Guess what, the ways things are done now are hurting the industry. Spending millions to make one game, one hardware, while in the meantime you are appealing to less and less people is not smart.

The only way to show the industry that it's going the wrong direction is by attack it, expanding it, and showing how things ought to be.

This is in fact what Nintendo is trying to do. The Question is: will this strategy be successfull ?

A necessary, but not sufficient condition, is that Nintendo has a strong Third Party Support not only at start, but that last in the long term: this must be their biggest concern.

Second, Nintendo must "drive the revolution", with AAA-Titles at start and in the next 6-12 months: not only to start well the Wii, but even to build a good reputation. That's what George Harrison has told us many times, but will they reach their objectives ?

Third, the Virtual Console must become a smashing success, and re-attract ald players to the console. It must be not too expensive and it must have the same good pre-conditions that has the Nintendo Wi-Fi Connection: Simple, Fast, Easy, and overall, Free.

Well, that's the point. I have read a lot of posts, comments, analyses, previsions and co, but now stop !

Now it is time to hear what Nintendo has to say us: like in politic, the day before the elections, the word must be left to the electors.

trilobyte · (05-07-2006, 08:46 PM)

Took one for the team

or did he not see the copyright notice? lol

LegendofJoe · (05-07-2006, 08:47 PM)

The more and more I think about it, the more and more I see Nintendo becoming hugely successful with this new strategy. If the software is there at launch and keeps coming the Wii really is going to change everything.

jarosh · (05-07-2006, 08:48 PM)

Originally Posted by DevilsRejection:

Here ya go

finally we can legitimately start to talk about retardedness in this thread about autism.

whatdidyousay · (05-07-2006, 08:54 PM)

Wait, we're not allowed to post articles? Even if we source them?

Well, at least I got to read it. Too bad it's buried here--maybe someone should delete the first few pages and start the thread with the article itself.

lancubap · (05-07-2006, 08:55 PM)

Ok. I have read all the article. Very long, but very interesting.

evilromero · (05-07-2006, 08:56 PM)

Damn. That sounds awesome. The Tennis game could hold a lot of promise. Wario Ware is a given. I fully expected a title such as it to showcase a lot of the Wiimote's features.

DevilsRejection · (05-07-2006, 08:56 PM)

I can not start a thread since I don't have enough posts.

whatdidyousay · (05-07-2006, 08:58 PM)

Oh, this cracked me up:

"TENNIS The graphics aren't much, but the game play is hilarious."

For some weird reason, I pictured Pong when I read that. Take us back to basics, Ninty!

thefit · (05-07-2006, 09:02 PM)

There you have it Nintendo doesn't care what you think because it thinks your all girls.

Rocked · (05-07-2006, 09:03 PM)

Quote:

"Take Tetris, for example," says Iwata, 46, a well-dressed man who radiates good-humored intelligence. "If someone were to take Tetris to a video-game publisher today, what would happen? The publisher would say, 'These graphics look kind of cheap. And this is a fun little mechanic, but you need more game modes in there. Maybe you can throw in some CG movies to make it a little bit flashier? And maybe we can tie it in with some kind of movie license?'" Voilà: a good game ruined.

Meteos Disney Edition!

Fallofmart · (05-07-2006, 09:04 PM)

Originally Posted by Heian-kyo:

That has absolutely nothing to do with my post. Good job.

Your post was about nintendo not just listening to the hardcore gamers anymore was it not?

Campster · (05-07-2006, 09:04 PM)

Originally Posted by thefit:

There you have it Nintendo doesn't care what you think because it thinks your all girls.

Close, but in reality you're all a bunch of dumb twats.

Error · (05-07-2006, 09:05 PM)

Originally Posted by Rocked:

Meteos Disney Edition!

I was thinking the same thing when I read that.

squicken · (05-07-2006, 09:07 PM)

I seem to remember some pro and con in the Gates article. Almost like a journalist wrote it. But pretty much every Nintendo marketing message in this article goes unchallenged.

Y2Kev · (05-07-2006, 09:08 PM)

Wario Ware? Hooray!

Give me a...a....Wii...please.