terrisus
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Better hope it's not jelly-filled.
Those don't have holes in the center.
They're also gross >.>
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Supermassive black hole 12 billion times larger than the sun detected
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Better hope it's not jelly-filled.
Those don't have holes in the center.
Jeez. The Schwarzschild's radius of the sun is like 3,000 kilometers.
CarpeDeezNutz
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How big is the delta quadrant?
You're half way there, there are massive (not infinite) but they are infinitely smaller, a single 1D point. If that doesn't make sense, good because it shouldn't. It's a filler concept because we dont know how something like it could exist since we know of nothing to stop the collapse of all the mass to a single point. Add in that they are so massive and dense that even light cannot escape them at a certain range makes them impossible to observe directly and even more enigmatic.
But effectively you can treat them like any other object. Mostly, what makes them weird is the insane gravitational force they exert. Despite what a lot of people think, a black hole doesn't suck up everything at an infinite range. The gravitational strength is still proportion to the mass and distance from it. Just that when you're dealing mass in terms of millions of solar mass, the force gravity becomes incomprehensible at close ranged.
NullPointer
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We should count ourselves lucky if we can comprehend the fact that we're a giant living rock swirling around a mind-bogglingly huge yet stable explosion of life-sustaining energies.
Comprehending that alone is one hell of a trick. Seriously. The fact that its usually the farthest thing from our minds is pretty damn amazing when you stop to think about it.
You don't need a fear of an omnipresent God to keep you humble if you can just remember those basic facts of our world every day.
So... Were talking about something as big as the super tengen toppa giga drill breaker here... Right?
If TTGL is galaxies big, then STTGL would dwarf that blackhole by quite a bit.
Anyways, space is amazing. The reality that we exist in yet aren't always aware of is awesome.
liliththepale
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Remember that you're dealing in 3D size, so to get a single dimension you get the cube root. Cube root of 12BN is roughly 2300, so 2300 times the width/height/depth of the sun.
MickeyKnox
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It';s the early access sequel to the old simulation, fun for fucking around with shit like this
Here's the earth next to our sun
now pulled back to show the sun in full
Now the sun compared to the black hole in question at the edge of the event horizon (I had to turn on the trails in the ui so it could be distinguished from the lensing effect.)
and finally in comparison to the black hole with the singularity in frame
It's a great little time suck
So still big right?
terrisus
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It';s the early access sequel to the old simulation, fun for fucking around with shit like this
and finally in comparison to the black hole with the singularity in frame
It's a great little time suck
Jesus!
liliththepale
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Still HUGE but I have an easier time wrapping my head around a thousand than a billion.
multiplied by 1.2 x 10^10 means that's a really big black hole.
In terms of mass its huge. In terms of volume occupied out to the event horizon, its probably not that big.
edit: for reference I believe the black hole at the heart of our galaxy has an event horizon at a radius of about 17 light hours.
rokkerkory
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A black hole that big would be at center of a gigantic galaxy right?
It's the source of a quasar, which is found at the heart of a galaxy. So to answer your question: yes.
edit: but not necessarily a gigantic galaxy.
If I live to be like 90 or something and I'm close to death, I'd like to go by being shot into a black hole. Just give me a space helmet and kick my death bed out of the side of a spaceship.
The Technomancer
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maybe but probably not? So if the article is accurate and this is larger then previously accounted for, it does raise questions about the current "control" on black holes, which is that as they increase in size they begin to shed radiation, causing them to shrink again. That model says that there's a maximum cap on how large a black hole is, although the final state of the universe might certainly look like a collection of black holes
terrisus
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You might not enjoy the whole "Time slowing down" thing though...
Regret Upon Approval
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Actually it is about 3 km, not 3000
It';s the early access sequel to the old simulation, fun for fucking around with shit like this
Here's the earth next to our sun
now pulled back to show the sun in full
Now the sun compared to the black hole in question at the edge of the event horizon (I had to turn on the trails in the ui so it could be distinguished from the lensing effect.)
and finally in comparison to the black hole with the singularity in frame
It's a great little time suck
How big is it compared to Canis Majoris?
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
Not even close. That's mass, not diameter or anything. Its bigger then our solar system, but still a speck in terms of the milky way
Oh Yea, I mean neuron stars are city sized. No idea why I added zeros.
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
Neuron stars would be absolutely terrifying.
Are those like even smaller than neutron stars?
It's easy to lose track of units when doing napkin math.
LOL sentient suns coming to kill us all.
I looked that shit up and my brain was like, no I cannot fathom such size, add zeros.
Also fuck you auto complete
MickeyKnox
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Couldn't resist
terrisus
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Neither can light.
liliththepale
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terrisus
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So what you're saying is that there are black holes in people's brains?
liliththepale
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Have you seen Fox News?
terrisus
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rimshot.wav
Bleh, I have to upgrade from 1?
The easiest way to conceptualize it as a "hole" is to imagine how space is warped by the immense gravity. Once you are beyond the event horizon (if you were able to survive somehow), turning around and looking "out" of the black hole would still look towards the black hole, because there is no direction for even light to escape. Space has been warped so completely that every single direction points towards the black hole: up, down, left, right, backwards, forwards. These directions no longer have meaning as we think of them. Every direction is towards the black hole.
MickeyKnox
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MickeyKnox
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Last time I promise, sorted by diameter
the black circle in the first shot is Jupiter
I would have just made *.gifs of all these but Shadowplay is being stupid
the black circle in the first shot is Jupiter
I would have just made *.gifs of all these but Shadowplay is being stupid
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