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Mental Health |OT| Depression & Co.

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Piano

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Saw the above post and wanted to chime in as I've taken both of these medications.

I'm supposed to take 2 during the day as needed(not required to take) and then three at night before bed. 100mg pills so 300mg minimum, 500mg maximum. Its uses for anxiety are off label but my psychiatrist swore by it. Haven't noticed much of a difference yet. Is it something that takes time to build up like SSRIs?

Speaking of SSRIs, I upped my dosage of Zoloft to a full pill today. 50mg. On Tuesday I start taking two pills which I was told is a moderate dose. I see my psych again in May so we'll re-evaluate at that point. Also only have two days of half a Celexa pill left before I stop that completely.

Gabapentin is a strange one. Its side effect profile is low so there's no harm in trying it but, as you said, it's not technically indicated for anxiety. I didn't find it very helpful other than making me groggy but have a friend who had it help tremendously. Both me and her, however, took it at a much higher dose than you - I believe she was close below 1,000mg while I hit 1,200mg.

50mg of Zoloft is a pretty low dose, 100mg is a moderate dose. I'm very sensitive to medication so 50mg of Zoloft was enough for my anxiety / mild depression for years. Again, side effect profile for myself and those I've known were pretty low, even at higher doses, so, in my opinion, it's a good medicine to try.

Hope things are going as well as possible!
 
Another birthday came and went quietly. Of course, it has me lamenting the fact that I haven't lived a day in my life. I've missed my teens, my twenties, my entire youth... I really want to know when things are going to get better. I think my ten-year high school reunion is coming up this year, killing myself there sure would show everyone that was mean to me. They all get to experience life and I just get to sit and wait for my turn. When? When do things finally get better? I don't know how much longer I can hold out.

All I can say is you really need to see a doctor.
I finally was able to get some insurance and saw a doctor a week before my birthday actually. He asked me a few questions, took some blood and called me after a few days to say I was fine.
 

ampere

Member
Another birthday came and went quietly...

All I can say is you really need to see a doctor. Vindictive thoughts like that don't help anyone... pretend you have a bad broken arm, you need medical care for that just like you need medical care for your current state of mind.
 

Piano

Banned
I finally was able to get some insurance and saw a doctor a week before my birthday actually. He asked me a few questions, took some blood and called me after a few days to say I was fine.

It sounds like you went to a general practitioner and he checked for thyroid function. You need to see a psychiatrist and / or psychologist, not a GP.
 

ampere

Member
I finally was able to get some insurance and saw a doctor a week before my birthday actually. He asked me a few questions, took some blood and called me after a few days to say I was fine.

It sounds like you went to a general practitioner and he checked for thyroid function. You need to see a psychiatrist and / or psychologist, not a GP.

^This. You obviously are not fine and need to talk to a mental health doctor. I'm not trying to be mean, but you really really need to do this. Did you tell the doctor you have severe depression?
 

Watcher

Member
After many many years dreaming of the day I can move out on my own to be free I have finally accomplished it. I feel nothing. Im so alone. So so alone
 

Piano

Banned
After many many years dreaming of the day I can move out on my own to be free I have finally accomplished it. I feel nothing. Im so alone. So so alone

Loneliness is the toughest part of moving out on your own ... but it's also the most valuable by far. Through being lonely (and learned how to not be lonely) you learn a tremendous amount about yourself and your lifestyle and grow a significant amount.

Hang in there!
 
After years of suffering from depression and it getting worse and worse I think I'm finally ready to talk to a doctor about it.

Question is how do i bring it up? I don't really have a family doctor

This is Ontario, Canada btw

I don't know if I wanna die right now

i cam to the same realization a few months back, just went to the doctor and said my depression was getting in the way of my responsibilities (school, work, social life) he prescribed me a low-end anti-depressant and a meeting with a a psychiatrist. after the meeting the psychiatrist recommended me to a high level anti-depressant and sent me on my way. had to check back in with the doctor just to check in but things have been better. the medicine really helps, only side affect i have is i tend to have to go to bed earlier than normal or ill end up sleeping in.

im in the U.S. btw, hope this helped.

EDIT: make sure your prescribed a steady refill from your doctor too. my doctor at first only gave me a two month prescription and never mentioned i had to get another prescription for one month to ween myself off what he originally prescribed me before i switched to the other medication the psychiatrist prescribed me. i ended up going through a horrific withdrawal and thought i was dying or something. drove myself to the hospital and the people thought i was OD'ing on heroin lol, not a good situation. it got straightened out but make sure you ask about a sufficient prescription.
 
Another birthday came and went quietly. Of course, it has me lamenting the fact that I haven't lived a day in my life. I've missed my teens, my twenties, my entire youth... I really want to know when things are going to get better. I think my ten-year high school reunion is coming up this year, killing myself there sure would show everyone that was mean to me. They all get to experience life and I just get to sit and wait for my turn. When? When do things finally get better? I don't know how much longer I can hold out.


I finally was able to get some insurance and saw a doctor a week before my birthday actually. He asked me a few questions, took some blood and called me after a few days to say I was fine.

Why do you have so much anger? Why can't you live or have fun now? It's not like you're too old or out of shape to do things, I don't see what's stopping you except for yourself to live life.

And while it's good you tried to go a doctor, clearly you didn't go to the right type of doctor... People have been telling a psychiatrist/psychologist for possibly years now, a GP is the wrong doctor.
 

Labrys

Member
i have a psych appt on thursday

i am going to be straight up with him. i am going to tell him the shitty experiiences ive had with ssri's and im going to get on a non-ssri and something for my anxiety and i swear to god if any of these pills make me gain weight again i feel like im just going to straight up off myself
 
You need to see a psychiatrist and / or psychologist, not a GP.
People keep saying this but I can't find any info on how it helps. All the resources I find just reiterate to the reader to see this type of person because they can help.

Even the resources in the OP, NAMI, just reiterates "get help, get help, get help." Never once explaining what help is. I'm frustrated trying to get help when no one can tell me what it is.

^This. You obviously are not fine and need to talk to a mental health doctor. I'm not trying to be mean, but you really really need to do this. Did you tell the doctor you have severe depression?
He gave me an 800 number to call, it took a few days but I called and talked to them and they said to come in for an evaluation... That was almost four weeks ago. I don't know what this place is and I'm scared to go.

Why do you have so much anger?
Lifetime of abuse and neglect. I also didn't think my comment read as angry, I thought the suicide at the high school reunion was a funny idea. It's dumb though because no one knew who I was then, they certainly won't know who I am now anyway, with or without a noose.

Why can't you live or have fun now? It's not like you're too old or out of shape to do things, I don't see what's stopping you except for yourself to live life.
How do you start? What's the trick? I've never done this before.

And while it's good you tried to go a doctor, clearly you didn't go to the right type of doctor... People have been telling a psychiatrist/psychologist for possibly years now, a GP is the wrong doctor.
This is why I want to know what I'm supposed to be doing but no one will tell me. When I try and figure things out myself, I always get it wrong. But when I ask questions, people treat me like an idiot. I can't win. I really wish I was dead. I just wish I wasn't so scared to go through with it.

After many many years dreaming of the day I can move out on my own to be free I have finally accomplished it. I feel nothing. Im so alone. So so alone
I can't tell if you're being positive or negative. Would you care to elaborate?

Fuck. Fuck. Fuck.
I am just a pathetic shit for for brains.
What's the matter? You've been putting yourself down a lot these last few pages...
 
Guys, memantine and tianeptine have been working wonderfully so far with no signs of ceasing. I'll try to briefly explain each's individual effects on me. I have always been jealous since high school of (for lack of a better word) smooth operators. Those people who seem impervious to anxiety even in the most stringent of circumstances whereas I would be anxious just standing next to someone at the urinal. Memantine has completely obliterated all of my anxiety. I believe this is in part due to its effect on the nmda receptor. It prevents excess glutamate( an excitatory neurotransmitter) from accumulating. So in my particular case it would appear, due to my positive response, that I had an overabundance of glutamate giving me extreme anxiety. Memantine is unique in that it prevents this excess but without negatively impacting the nmda receptor. Have you ever heard of ketamine and someone whose taken it being "k'ed out"? That's because ketamine knocks out the nmda receptor completely rendering that person incapable of understanding what it even means to be human. Memantine is different in that it allows normal functioning of the nmda receptor while still blocking excess glutamate and for this reason is termed a non-competitive antagonist. I will have to caveat this by saying the first few days of dosing it did have a rather large significant negative impact on my sense of balance. I was basically walking into walls for the first few days. This is because it takes a bit of time for the nmda receptor to upregulate in response to memantine. No need to worry though as this upregulation is rapid and robust so normality returns quickly.

Tianpetine's effects on the other hand are a bit harder to explain. I'll preface this by saying I have in fact dosed each independently so I am able to differentiate them. (I had a go with it a few years back before I even knew what memantine was). It works in part by being an agonist of the mu-opoid receptor, the same receptor that morphine works upon, albeit to a much lesser extent. It seems to provide a calming property but without sedation or drowsiness. I'm afraid of it losing therapeutic effect due to tolerance so this one I will be dosing intermittently. I should also mention that it's opoid activating properties are not its only mechanism by which it alleviates depression. it also increases synaptic plasticity by increasing bdnf(brain-derived neurotrophic factor) or in simpler terms, adult neurogenesis, particularly in the hippocampus which is responsible for memory, learning, and emotion processes among other things.

Memantine pubmed mdd study

Neurological effects of Tianeptine-also pubmed.
 

Steamlord

Member
Ugh, as if the general anxiety I always have by default wasn't enough, I just realized I fucked up an exam that's worth 20% of my grade in that class.

It was technically an essay, not what I would call an exam, but the professor just briefly mentioned what the guidelines were in class one day and I jotted them down in my notes and then forgot. So when I actually started writing it, I didn't remember being told what the guidelines were so I assumed it was the same as our first exam, so I just followed that format. So I discussed some of the concepts presented by the philosophers we had been reading and left it at that like we did for the first exam, not remembering that this time we were also supposed to argue in favor of one of them over the other. In other words, I did two thirds of what I was supposed to, but assuming it's all weighted equally that's a D. Though to be fair, this one didn't have to be as long, so while I only needed to write two pages about each philosopher and then another two pages presenting my argument for six pages total, I ended up writing just over seven pages...so the work was comparable I guess. Then today, the day after it was due and I turned it in, I saw that line in my notes and remembered...shit.

The professor seems like a nice guy, maybe he'll understand. But I mean, there was no handout or anything, he just briefly mentioned it in class one day... Is that unfair, or am I just making excuses? I'm thinking about emailing him and explaining, but for one thing I don't really think anything would come of it, and for another I'm having a major battle with my anxiety over whether I'm even capable of sending the email.

I don't even know if this belongs here since it's just tangentially related to my mental health, but I felt like venting. I really don't feel like dealing with this kind of shit during my last semester of college. It doesn't help that I had an especially bad experience with a different professor over a misunderstanding regarding an essay my freshman year.

Edit: The dropbox was still open so I patched up the essay the best I could and resubmitted it. Now I should just get a late penalty instead of losing a huge chunk of the grade for omitting a section. Not a perfect solution, but it's about all I can do. Sorry to shit up the thread with trivial bullshit, I was just kind of panicking for a while there.
 
People keep saying this but I can't find any info on how it helps. All the resources I find just reiterate to the reader to see this type of person because they can help.

Even the resources in the OP, NAMI, just reiterates "get help, get help, get help." Never once explaining what help is. I'm frustrated trying to get help when no one can tell me what it is.

He gave me an 800 number to call, it took a few days but I called and talked to them and they said to come in for an evaluation... That was almost four weeks ago. I don't know what this place is and I'm scared to go.
"Get help" means making an appointment with a psychiatrist to get prescribed the right medication and/or a psychotherapist/psychologist to get counseling. What specifically are you confused about?

Go for the evaluation, even if it may seem scary. Or find a certified specialist in your area via Google or the databases available out there. It sounds like you've never actually had an appointment with someone (or went to a GP and got advice, but never fully followed through with it).

You have to take that first step, as hard as it may be. But don't make it harder for yourself than it needs to be.
 

Piano

Banned
People keep saying this but I can't find any info on how it helps. All the resources I find just reiterate to the reader to see this type of person because they can help.

Even the resources in the OP, NAMI, just reiterates "get help, get help, get help." Never once explaining what help is. I'm frustrated trying to get help when no one can tell me what it is.


He gave me an 800 number to call, it took a few days but I called and talked to them and they said to come in for an evaluation... That was almost four weeks ago. I don't know what this place is and I'm scared to go.


Lifetime of abuse and neglect. I also didn't think my comment read as angry, I thought the suicide at the high school reunion was a funny idea. It's dumb though because no one knew who I was then, they certainly won't know who I am now anyway, with or without a noose.


How do you start? What's the trick? I've never done this before.


This is why I want to know what I'm supposed to be doing but no one will tell me. When I try and figure things out myself, I always get it wrong. But when I ask questions, people treat me like an idiot. I can't win. I really wish I was dead. I just wish I wasn't so scared to go through with it.

I'm sorry if people haven't been clear before. I promise there was no intention on my part to obfuscate how getting help works, or make you feel stupid for not knowing what to do next.

I will try my best to explain, but keep in mind I am no expert, just a guy who's been through a ton of treatment. If anyone else is reading this, please chime in with anything I missed or messed up.

Essentially there are two major lines of treatment:

Psychological treatment as in therapy, usually done with a therapist or psychologist and less commonly with a clinical social worker. There are a ton of new treatment tactics coming out all the time but most common is talk therapy, where you meet with your therapist on a regular basis and talk about your feelings and the such. These talks can focus on your current symptoms and how to cope with them (such as in cognitive behavioral therapy and dialectic behavioral therapy) or your history, your life, and where your mental health struggles may have come from (such as in psychotherapy or psychoanalysis). In my experience most doctors are a mix of both rather than strictly in one camp or another; my favorite doctors mixed exploration of my anxieties, history, etc with discussions of how to deal with my feelings in the meantime.

Therapy can be received in either a group setting or individually, with group usually being CBT or DBT. Both are useful in different ways; individual appointments give you more personal attention but group settings give you exposure to others' thoughts and experiences. Generally if you make an appointment with a doctor the assumption is that it will be individual unless explicitly stated otherwise.

Psychiatric treatment is treatment with medication, administered by a Psychiatrist. While General Practitioners and family doctors have the ability to write psychological prescriptions it is not their specialty and they do not necessarily have the skill set to know what is the best treatment for you. Just as you would see a specialist if you were having a hormone imbalance or liver trouble, it's best to see a specialist for mental health.

Usually with a psychiatrist you will see them enough times that they feel comfortable that they understand your situation and can give you something they believe will help. After that you may see them variably, maybe less often if the medicine is working well and you just need to check in or more often if things are getting shifted around.

Generally psychiatrists do not offer talk therapy; however, there are some psychiatrists who also administer CBT or psychotherapy. There are advantages and disadvantages to having a combination therapist / psychiatrist: on the one hand it can be nice to have the person who knows you best through your therapy also be the one to make decisions about medicine, on the other hand sometimes psychiatrists and therapists are more effective if they stick to one specialty.

There are a million medications out there for a million and one types of people so I won't get into that in this post, but one thing to know is that due to our limited knowledge of the brain is, at this point, an educated guessing game. It's easy to get discouraged when a medicine doesn't work but perhaps you can take solace in knowing that with so many treatments out there (and some options beyond medication) there's bound to be something that works for you. It took me a while - I've been on over a dozen medications - but low and behold, I've found something that makes me want to live. I consider it an achievement.

So how do you figure out what you need? Well, that's the toughest part of mental health treatment and relies on experimentation and insurance. Everyone has their opinion. Often a GP or Family doctor is a good place to start in asking for a recommendation of who to seek treatment with but it sounds as though that didn't work out as planned for you. It's also worth checking who your insurance will cover and how much, as health insurance companies can sometimes be stingy with mental health coverage. They can be unexpectedly generous, too - like when I got a big bill wiped out for some reason - but it depends on a lot of factors.

Everyone has their own experience on what treatments worked best for them. For me, both medication and talk therapy have been indispensable. Medication alleviated my symptoms enough so that I could keep going to therapy, and in therapy I've learned a lot about how my mind works and why I hate myself so damn much.

It's tough to know where to start but I think the most important step is to start at all, to dip your toe in the water, get a taste of what treatments are available to you and begin to see that there are a lot of tools out there to help you if only you know where to look. Perhaps consider scheduling an appointment with a therapist / psychologist to talk through your issues and see if they think you should go see a psychiatrist. Alternately, go see a psychiatrist straight away if you'd rather get some medicine first to smooth things over while you seek a good therapist. Or, if you really don't know where to start and life is unbearable find an inpatient treatment facility near you and check in. They will get you back on track and give you ideas for next steps in treatment (plus they're almost always covered by insurance).

BONUS: Some larger metropolitan areas have outpatient mental health centers at local hospitals where you can schedule an appointment, they evaluate you and then they tell you where to start. It's not a reality where I live but I know of such centers in Boston, Denver, and NYC.

Notice I mentioned seeking a good therapist. Good is relative. A really important part of seeking mental health treatment is that you need to be your own advocate. You're not going to be compatible with every therapist or psychiatrist - so if they're not understanding you or not offering you anything helpful maybe you should move on. It's VERY important to know, though, that THERE ARE GREAT DOCTORS OUT THERE, and there's DEFINITELY quite a few who are great for you. You just have to find him / her / them. Often times people will go to one therapist, feel they don't understand, and then conclude that all therapists are bad. Take it from me, who wasted a couple of years bouncing around bad therapists and just lying to them: THERE IS SOMEONE OUT THERE WHO CAN HELP YOU!

The same goes for inpatient mental health facilities. They're not all created equal and some are so overtaxed that they'll punt you out the door because they have to make space for the next fellow. If you look around, though, you can find impressions on the internet (and amongst local doctors) what the best programs in the region are. I did some research and made sure I ended up at decent-at-least mental health facilities when I went in and both times were tremendously helpful. They gave me a fresh perspective and a better idea of what direction to go with my treatment.

One last thing: it's important to have a willingness to take treatment seriously. You will have to open up about things you feel uncomfortable with. You will need to tell the truth. You will probably need to make some lifestyle changes (e.g. diet, exercise, meditation, etc.).

Whew! This post got pretty long. I hope I gave you a decent overview. I know I probably missed a lot so please respond to my post or send me a PM if you've got any questions. I hope others will tag on with anything else they've got to offer.

Edit: The dropbox was still open so I patched up the essay the best I could and resubmitted it. Now I should just get a late penalty instead of losing a huge chunk of the grade for omitting a section. Not a perfect solution, but it's about all I can do. Sorry to shit up the thread with trivial bullshit, I was just kind of panicking for a while there.

It's not trivial! They're your feelings. They're your reality. That's definitely not trivial.
I'm glad you were able to find a workable solution :)
 

Palpable

Member
From my previous experience with that people I know that they do step on a mine once (maybe even several times) in their lifetime and then experience this on their own skin. And I said before, it is not worth even to think about this.

I saw my ex's sister last night where she works. I went to see a show and she works at one of the shops in the same building. I texted her asking if she was working and that I was going to see said show. She said to stop by and say hi afterwords. I did. Other than catching up, we talked about what happened between my ex and I. She said that my ex "checks up" on me via twitter. I dunno why. I don't really post much on there, let alone her being able to gather how I'm doing from any of it.

My ex's sister even mentioned how ironic it was that I completely cleaned up my act after my ex broke things off with me. The irony being that my behavior during the last few months of the relationship was pushing her away emotionally. I ignored many of the obvious signs. Hell, my ex's sister said even her parents scrutinized my ex over breaking up with me and getting with another guy within a couple of weeks.

I still genuinely care about my ex (she is with another guy and refuses to talk to me now) and asked her sister how she is doing (minus the details). She said she is doing "okay", but she had trouble at her new job from one of her bosses giving her a hard time (it's better now, though). I found myself getting angry and wanting to go to wherever she works (she got this job after we broke up, so I dunno where she works) and straighten shit out. However, reality quickly set in and I realized I'm not the one to protect or worry about her anymore. It has been almost 5 months and I still find myself hoping that her & I can one day reconnect in the future. Keanu Reeves hit the nail on the head with this quote; "Grief changes shape, but it never ends"
 

DrM

Redmond's Baby
I still genuinely care about my ex (she is with another guy and refuses to talk to me now) and asked her sister how she is doing (minus the details). She said she is doing "okay", but she had trouble at her new job from one of her bosses giving her a hard time (it's better now, though). I found myself getting angry and wanting to go to wherever she works (she got this job after we broke up, so I dunno where she works) and straighten shit out. However, reality quickly set in and I realized I'm not the one to protect or worry about her anymore. It has been almost 5 months and I still find myself hoping that her & I can one day reconnect in the future. Keanu Reeves hit the nail on the head with this quote; "Grief changes shape, but it never ends"

I totally understand you. I got once back with a girl, but after two more years we saw that it won't work and we did split up. But we are still very good friends and I even know her BF, so it was quite amusing when we met in a pub :D

My therapy is progressing, feeling much better. Even eye surgery (painful stuff!) didn't shook my foundations. My therapist called me on the phone on Thursday and I got free telephone session and it really helped me, when I was numb with pain.

Also something interesting happened on Wednesday. A girl was waiting for the same surgery and she was really frightened. So when I was through with surgery, I stepped to her(with half of my face in bandages) and just told her that 'It is not as bad as it looks and do not worry'. I received text message on Friday with her thanks and invitation for a coffee, when we both recover. Probably she found my number in the phonebook because they were caliing us by name and surname...
 
I wish that I wouldn't have had a hormonal change, because it's making me being single unbearable. I feel so lonely, and now I'm obsessed with online dating apps and texting girls.

My problem is I'm not very attractive or interesting, nor do I have a memorable personality.

I'm not getting too far, and my dates haven't been successful. The realization is setting in, and it's been a really rough day.
 

q_q

Member
Anyone have experience with morning anxiety? Whenever i wake up i feel incredibly panicked, dry mouth, and nausea. As the day goes on i get much better and by nigh time im in a completely better mood, but then the cycle repeats the next day. Ive read that it most likely has to do with cortisol levels in the brain and low blood sugar from not eating all night. Problem is with my nausea i cant stomach any kind of decent breakfast to start my day. Im going to try starting out with a gatorade and some fruit just to get something in my system but id love if anyone else had advice from experience. Im also on zoloft long term and xanax for when i need it, but it doesnt seem to help as much earlier in the day.

Also, to everyone dealing with issues in this thread, please dont give up. Life is such a beautiful thing and we can work through our issues to enjoy it, even if sometimes it feels hopeless.
 

ampere

Member
Anyone have experience with morning anxiety? Whenever i wake up i feel incredibly panicked, dry mouth, and nausea. As the day goes on i get much better and by nigh time im in a completely better mood, but then the cycle repeats the next day. Ive read that it most likely has to do with cortisol levels in the brain and low blood sugar from not eating all night. Problem is with my nausea i cant stomach any kind of decent breakfast to start my day. Im going to try starting out with a gatorade and some fruit just to get something in my system but id love if anyone else had advice from experience. Im also on zoloft long term and xanax for when i need it, but it doesnt seem to help as much earlier in the day.

Also, to everyone dealing with issues in this thread, please dont give up. Life is such a beautiful thing and we can work through our issues to enjoy it, even if sometimes it feels hopeless.

What is your pre-bed routine? I would suggest making sure to be hydrated before you sleep if you don't already do that. I always drink water before going to bed, too much and you might wake up to pee, but you need a bit to stay hydrated.

I am not sure what to say if it is indeed blood sugar issues, since I typically wouldn't recommend eating right before bed. But I am no expert there, I just don't eat before bed for heartburn reasons.
 

Palpable

Member
I totally understand you. I got once back with a girl, but after two more years we saw that it won't work and we did split up. But we are still very good friends and I even know her BF, so it was quite amusing when we met in a pub :D

Yeah man. I'm more or less hoping that her and I can reconnect at some point and try dating again to see if it works. I've learned a lot of lessons and I know where I went wrong. Now that I can fix these things, I'd like to see how round 2 could go. Unfortunately, reality sets in and I realize the woman that I love (my ex) is in love with another guy, her new BF. Part of me is glad she is happy, but the other part aches so fucking bad for her, it's insane.
 

RustyCassette

Neo Member
I have a medication review this week, and I'm not sure my current prescription is helping me any more. I've been on it for a year now, and though my base mood may possibly be slightly better I feel in no way able to cope with the set backs I've experienced. I contemplate suicide at least as much now as I did before medication and therapy.

Part of me thinks it's worth trying to find something that works, but most of me is tired of trying to get better.
 
Anyone have experience with morning anxiety? Whenever i wake up i feel incredibly panicked, dry mouth, and nausea. As the day goes on i get much better and by nigh time im in a completely better mood, but then the cycle repeats the next day. Ive read that it most likely has to do with cortisol levels in the brain and low blood sugar from not eating all night. Problem is with my nausea i cant stomach any kind of decent breakfast to start my day. Im going to try starting out with a gatorade and some fruit just to get something in my system but id love if anyone else had advice from experience. Im also on zoloft long term and xanax for when i need it, but it doesnt seem to help as much earlier in the day.

Also, to everyone dealing with issues in this thread, please dont give up. Life is such a beautiful thing and we can work through our issues to enjoy it, even if sometimes it feels hopeless.

I experience that everyday my friend. I know your pain.
 
Anyone have experience with morning anxiety? Whenever i wake up i feel incredibly panicked, dry mouth, and nausea. As the day goes on i get much better and by nigh time im in a completely better mood, but then the cycle repeats the next day. Ive read that it most likely has to do with cortisol levels in the brain and low blood sugar from not eating all night. Problem is with my nausea i cant stomach any kind of decent breakfast to start my day. Im going to try starting out with a gatorade and some fruit just to get something in my system but id love if anyone else had advice from experience. Im also on zoloft long term and xanax for when i need it, but it doesnt seem to help as much earlier in the day.

Also, to everyone dealing with issues in this thread, please dont give up. Life is such a beautiful thing and we can work through our issues to enjoy it, even if sometimes it feels hopeless.

I guess I go through something similar, but not entirely similar. I've been depressed for four months now and on anti-depressives for 3 months. I have trouble waking up, partly thanks to the meds, partly thanks to the fact that I have to start a new day and I've just had lots of terrible dreams. Then in the morning I need to take my meds and I feel nausia for a few hours.

So mornings aren't my favorite time of the day either. Nighttime my mood is at a high point. This is actually pretty standard for people with depression, so I've been told.
 

Piano

Banned
I have a medication review this week, and I'm not sure my current prescription is helping me any more. I've been on it for a year now, and though my base mood may possibly be slightly better I feel in no way able to cope with the set backs I've experienced. I contemplate suicide at least as much now as I did before medication and therapy.

Part of me thinks it's worth trying to find something that works, but most of me is tired of trying to get better.

You're in talk therapy as well? Have you discussed your inability to cope with setbacks with your therapist?
 

Kipp

but I am taking tiny steps forward
Oof. Today has been a rough day. I'm really, really looking forward to the SSRIs kicking in. It's been a week and a half since I started on them, so it's still early days, but it feels like ages. Just gritting my teeth and telling myself that soon enough things are going to get better (well, assuming everything works as it should).
 
Anyone have experience with morning anxiety? Whenever i wake up i feel incredibly panicked, dry mouth, and nausea. As the day goes on i get much better and by nigh time im in a completely better mood, but then the cycle repeats the next day. Ive read that it most likely has to do with cortisol levels in the brain and low blood sugar from not eating all night. Problem is with my nausea i cant stomach any kind of decent breakfast to start my day. Im going to try starting out with a gatorade and some fruit just to get something in my system but id love if anyone else had advice from experience. Im also on zoloft long term and xanax for when i need it, but it doesnt seem to help as much earlier in the day.

Also, to everyone dealing with issues in this thread, please dont give up. Life is such a beautiful thing and we can work through our issues to enjoy it, even if sometimes it feels hopeless.


Try eating some protein before bed?
 

ShaneB

Member
Spent Friday or Saturday night (I cant remember which) listening to music and wondering if overdosing on old sleeping pills I was described ages ago would kill me. I guess I wasn’t that serious about as I never even got up to check what the name was and to verify if they could. While I keep telling myself I don’t think I could ever do it, it terrifies me when I drift into thoughts like that, or if I’m driving to and from work, if I just drive right off the road, albeit that would get a little more attention than I’d want I suppose…

Anyways, just something I wanted to write out this Monday morning since I feel completely worthless and hopeless. Bought a new tv yesterday (my old one is starting to die after 8 years, after selling a bunch of stuff), and already feel like buyer’s remorse. Useless piece of junk that in no way helps me feel like my life has any meaning. I browse facebook from time to time and see all the things my friends accomplish, and I’ve hidden away for so long because I’m so embarrassed and ashamed of what little I have done, and it just gets worse because I’ve sunk deep into a completely anti-social shell, and wonder why I still live here in the city, alone and with no friends, in a place I really can’t afford to live, with a job I hate day in and day out that fulfills no sense of purpose. Turning 33 next month and the time keeps passing and I wonder when I’ll make others proud of me. Just live with so much regret and constantly think of how much I wish things could've been different.

Know I don’t post in this thread much, but just wanted to vent a little bit this Monday morning.
 

Armadilo

Banned
so i'm 20 years old and last year in April I got my first job "fast food", to this month being a year that I have worked their but I wouldn't really call it a job instead of something a High school kid would do to get money during high school, the hours I get are horrible and would never be able to provide for myself. I didn't think I would be working in fast food but reality hit me in the face and those hopes and dreams are still their... somewhere.. Before I graduated High School I was looking into my future and what I wanted to do, I chosed and decided I wanted to become a film Director. I never owned a camera before as all I ever had was the family camera that I had to use to record family videos since nobody else wanted to use it. So me who never had a camera wanted to become a film director and my parents were supportive of me and what I wanted to do that they actually took me see a film school tour in Los Angeles, very far from where I live. It was average and signed all the papers and was going to attend that school but then I saw how much it was going to cost and then I got scared. Scared that It was going to be a waste of money as thoughts like that came to my head after searching online if Film schools were worth it or not and allot of results were negative about it, so I didn't go. My family is not rich, not even middle class, just poor and bills to pay. I was depressed after not going, "Maybe I should of gone" as it was education, right ? That can possibly lead to a career and just do something and become someone in this world. No college or school to go to, ok I have to get a job. A year later and no job still, I'm a silent person who never talks and could say timid and If that was the problem, I didn't want it. I was tired of everything, I have no friends and as I look back to the early school days, It has always been the same and I'm just a loner. So have nothing to lose but win and do something so I would get chances at some job interviews and my first one was horrible, stuttering and avoiding eye contact. Didn't get that so I had nothing to lose and that's why with each interview I tried to get better and better, eventually I got a job and that's where I'm at but like I said it's not really a job and I must do something. I have nothing to lose, I will be trying to save any money that I earn so that I can at least go to some school and learn filmmaking and start from the bottom and who knows where that takes me.
 

sangreal

Member
Finally went ahead and visited a psychiatrist/therapist (he is both) this past week for anxiety/depression issues. Ended up on 50mg of Zoloft until my first med review just to see if I have an adverse reaction. Is Zoloft actually effective? I did some googling and was met with rather mixed reviews so I am not sure what to expect -- I saw there was some class action claiming it is no better than a placebo. The doc wanted to put me on something else (not sure what) but couldn't due to my drinking
 

kamineko

Does his best thinking in the flying car
Finally went ahead and visited a psychiatrist/therapist (he is both) this past week for anxiety/depression issues. Ended up on 50mg of Zoloft until my first med review just to see if I have an adverse reaction. Is Zoloft actually effective? I did some googling and was met with rather mixed reviews so I am not sure what to expect -- I saw there was some class action claiming it is no better than a placebo. The doc wanted to put me on something else (not sure what) but couldn't due to my drinking

In my experience, getting on psych meds takes a lot of patience. What works for one patient may do little to nothing for another. Reviews for a lot of drugs are all over the place for that reason. Typically what happens is doctors try something (based on patient feedback), see if it works, then either stick with it or try something else. It sucks, but it can take a while to find something that works well.

In your case, yeah, drinking doesn't mix well with many psychoactive drugs, or it simply negates them. I guess zoloft isn't one of those. The main thing is hang in there & be straight with the doctor. Maybe you'll get the right one on the first try.
 

Piano

Banned
Finally went ahead and visited a psychiatrist/therapist (he is both) this past week for anxiety/depression issues. Ended up on 50mg of Zoloft until my first med review just to see if I have an adverse reaction. Is Zoloft actually effective? I did some googling and was met with rather mixed reviews so I am not sure what to expect -- I saw there was some class action claiming it is no better than a placebo. The doc wanted to put me on something else (not sure what) but couldn't due to my drinking

In my experience, getting on psych meds takes a lot of patience. What works for one patient may do little to nothing for another. Reviews for a lot of drugs are all over the place for that reason. Typically what happens is doctors try something (based on patient feedback), see if it works, then either stick with it or try something else. It sucks, but it can take a while to find something that works well.

In your case, yeah, drinking doesn't mix well with many psychoactive drugs, or it simply negates them. I guess zoloft isn't one of those. The main thing is hang in there & be straight with the doctor. Maybe you'll get the right one on the first try.

Bingo. It's always going to be trial and error to some extent, especially when you're just starting out with a doctor. After a few tries you have a better idea of how you react to things.

For what it's worth, Zoloft worked very well for me for a long time and has worked very well for two others I know.

Also, I stopped drinking partly because of the interactions it had with psych meds. I decided I'd rather give up an escape and have a life worth living than continue living a life I needed to escape from.
 

RustyCassette

Neo Member
You're in talk therapy as well? Have you discussed your inability to cope with setbacks with your therapist?

Not currently, no. I had my NHS allotted time with a therapist, asked to have more and he basically said there was no more he could do, since I moved and he couldn't refer me.

I feel like I'm at the end of my rope really.
 

Piano

Banned
Not currently, no. I had my NHS allotted time with a therapist, asked to have more and he basically said there was no more he could do, since I moved and he couldn't refer me.

I feel like I'm at the end of my rope really.

I'm not familiar with with how the British health system works but is there no way for you to get back in with a talk therapist?

Medications are essentially symptom relief. They help, really, they help tremendously but you can't just rely on symptom relief forever. You have to understand your issues and how to cope with them. Talk therapy helps tremendously with that understanding.
 

ReiGun

Member
Every time I hang out with this one group of friends, I'm left feeling drained and isolated. Perhaps it's high time I just move on and find a new place to belong.

Or just finally accept that I really do prefer being alone than being with others. But that requires having the courage to be myself, and I'm a coward in that regard.

I'm just tired of being so angry and hating myself all the time.
 

kiyomi

Member
Not currently, no. I had my NHS allotted time with a therapist, asked to have more and he basically said there was no more he could do, since I moved and he couldn't refer me.

I feel like I'm at the end of my rope really.

if you've moved outside of his area, you need to talk to whichever branch of talking therapies is nearest to you or in your borough. put yourself on the waiting list to receive fresh treatment.

the lack of long term care in the uk is a serious problem, in my experience it's often just 12 sessions of cbt, sometimes slightly longer for group therapy, and if you're really lucky or someone believes your case serious enough, you may get a year. as someone who has been banded about by a system that tries to fix you and throw you out as soon as it can, all i can suggest is that you put yourself down on any waiting lists of services that will take you.

talk to a charity like together, maybe they can do something for you.
 
I just came back from psych doc. He put me on abilify along with lamictal and the prozac I recently began taking again. We'll see how this works out. He diagnosed me as bipolar 1. Sucks.
 

demon

I don't mean to alarm you but you have dogs on your face
Finally went ahead and visited a psychiatrist/therapist (he is both) this past week for anxiety/depression issues. Ended up on 50mg of Zoloft until my first med review just to see if I have an adverse reaction. Is Zoloft actually effective? I did some googling and was met with rather mixed reviews so I am not sure what to expect -- I saw there was some class action claiming it is no better than a placebo. The doc wanted to put me on something else (not sure what) but couldn't due to my drinking

It can be effective but it won't work miracles. Obviously it's not going to fix your life, only help lift and stabilize your mood and anxiety. I've been on Zoloft for over five months and it has helped. The 'placebo' lawsuit sounds like horseshit. I started on 25mg/day but moved up to 50 after a couple weeks. I'd say a few-to-several weeks into taking 50mg I noticed that my mood was in general better and I had far fewer dips into bad depression. The most noticeable chance was my anxiety. I first noticed when I realized I was in a particular situation at work that normally makes me nervous and extremely anxious, and I noticed that I didn't have the racing heart and tightness in my chest that I'd always had. Only side effects I've experienced are stomach/bloating/gas problems when I started taking it or increase the dosage, but that pretty much goes away. Maybe a little erection/libido problems at first but that's entirely gone away, and I'm at my lowest weight (not in a sickly way) in years so weight gain hasn't been an issue.

So I'd say it helps. My problems stem largely from issues that go way back in my life and missing out on a lot of crucial growing up experiences during my adolescence, and the medication is only going to help me work through those problems I suppose, not fix them. I always heard a lot of stories about these medications changing you are as a person, making you "lose your edge", etc etc, I haven't had that experience at all. It just softens the depression and anxiety and makes them more manageable.
 

shadowkat

Unconfirmed Member
Back on my medication. I'm beginning to feel a bit better mood wise. My anxiety is still a bit high though. The number of times that I have had to do some kind of relaxation technique is ridiculous.
 

Ezduo

Banned
Anyone have any tips for finding therapists or psychiatrists on a budget? I can't really afford health insurance right now (and since Tennessee didn't expand Medicaid the government isn't going to fine me for not having it this year) and with how little money I already make I'm kind of between a rock and a hard place as far as getting help goes. I'm considering calling up Vanderbilt or one of the other local universities and seeing if they have any students they can dump on me for cheap or something like that.
 
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