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PAL Charts - Week 40, 2016

IMO, Its simple, really. Name brand recognition. MS has delivered on big brand name games every year. Games are games, so I'm not playing the whole 'indies don't count' stance. It's about the big names that bring in the big money where PS has fallen behind on. Perhaps those are coming with PSVR.

So UC4 did not bring in the money ?
Plus there other mid tier games.
MS games have not being doing that great in the 2 countries they are strong in .
We have to wait and see but it going to be interesting in how much gears sell.
 
So UC4 did not bring in the money ?
Plus there other mid tier games.
MS games have not being doing that great in the 2 countries they are strong in .
We have to wait and see but it going to be interesting in how much gears sell.
I never said they didn't have any. I said I would like to see an increase in their big name franchises, overall, just like I would like to see MS have more variety in their catalog. Both are doing very well in certain areas while not great in others. It will be an interesting couple of months, for sure.
 

Hasney

Member
I never said they didn't have any. I said I would like to see an increase in their big name franchises, overall, just like I would like to see MS have more variety in their catalog. Both are doing very well in certain areas while not great in others. It will be an interesting couple of months, for sure.

It won't be that interesting, PS4 will continue to outsell the XB1 and I can't see that changing until at least Scorpio. That's just talking about the UK too, in Europe the gap will just be larger.
 

cheesekao

Member
I never said they didn't have any. I said I would like to see an increase in their big name franchises, overall, just like I would like to see MS have more variety in their catalog. Both are doing very well in certain areas while not great in others. It will be an interesting couple of months, for sure.
The only difference between Sony and MS this year in terms of big titles is ONE timed exclusive. I really don't see how that makes much of a difference.
 
And don't forget about the best new release of them all!

Dragon Quest Builders.

SE really should have localized it sooner. I think it could have done decently during quiet gaming period seeing how positive the reviews are. Now it will be just forgotten in a week when holiday onslaught is upon us..
 
Gears 4, PSVR and PS4 version of RoTTR all in the same week. Next week will be interesting for sure.
I'm looking forward to DQB performance. I already know the drop will be big though. Gears 4 should be interesting too.

"Poor management" seems like a "lazy devs" explanation to me. A way too simplistic explanation to throw around for something as complicated as game development.

If Sony wanted to, I'm pretty sure they could've rushed those games out, just like they did with Uncharted 3 last gen. But back then, they needed those games out there ASAP to push console sales because they were in a tight race with Microsoft. Nowadays, they're in a dominant position and are the default third party console, so they're free to do a Nintendo/Valve/Blizzard and release their games when they're ready. Plus there are other factors to take into account too, the R&C and GR2 delays had nothing to do with development and everything to do with scheduling.

If there's a problem, I don't think it's with Sony delaying games at all, it's with them announcing release dates/windows way too early. They seem to have finally realised this though, as the only games with 2017 release dates right now are their Q1 games.
I think that is what it boils down to as well. If Sony just announced releases dates that they were absolutely sure of, suddenly it comes off as, "Oh, Sony is doing good with releases dates. They announce them for that Q1 period and that is when they usually hit". As you said, the problem is just coming from Sony announcing dates too early and having to delay. That is where the perception problem is coming from.

MS doesn't have this problem because they don't announce their big titles for the spring period at all. So, they don't have to announce delays (they have for some of their spring stuff like Scalebound though but yeah). They already know fall is the best release period for them and they stick with it through and through.

If Sony is going to stick with Q1, commit to it. Have that period be the goal for the bulk of your titles and only put 1 or 2 titles that you know can hit fall in fall. Basically, keep doing what you did with Bloodborne, Sony. :p
 
IMO, Its simple, really. Name brand recognition. MS has delivered on big brand name games every year. Games are games, so I'm not playing the whole 'indies don't count' stance. It's about the big names that bring in the big money where PS has fallen behind on. Perhaps those are coming with PSVR.

This is a strange thing because I don't actually think MS games have performed better on the whole vs Sony first party titles.
 

Welfare

Member
Reposting the Gears 4 predictions from the Week 37 thread here for posterity now it's out - will post it in the Monday thread too so we can see who came closest.

EDIT: Feel free to change your predictions up until Sunday night, I'll update with last guesses Monday morning before the chart comes through.
Must have missed mine. I think I posted 135k, but I'll change it to 125k.
 

Bruno MB

Member
I just learned that two staff members of MCV Christopher Dring (editor) and Ben Parfitt (associate editor) are parting ways with MCV.

It seems the staff is being dismantled. I hope the future of this publication is not in danger because it is a very valuable source for those we follow the UK video game market. All data I post such as weekly overall sales and monthly charts are taken from their magazine.

Adding/changing a few more guesses on Gears 4 numbers on page 2 if anyone wants to revise theirs.

My prediction: 130,000
 

Bruno MB

Member
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ENTERTAINMENT SOFTWARE (ALL PRICES) September 2016 (Aug 28th - Oct 1st)

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[B]September 2016[/B]

Week 35, 2016 - 238,432 units / £6.5m
Week 36, 2016 - 145,953 units / £3.9m
Week 37, 2016 - 213,457 units / £6.6m
Week 38, 2016 - 181,970 units / £5.2m
Week 39, 2016 - 1,423,866 units / £58.8m

Total - 2,203,678 units (-15.8%) / £81m (-16.7%)

[B]September 2015[/B]

Week 35, 2015 - 269,210 units / £7.1m
Week 36, 2015 - 484,014 units / £16.6m
Week 37, 2015 - 252,710 units / £7.5m
Week 38, 2015 - 333,279 units / £11.7m
Week 39, 2015 - 1,278,359 units / £54.3m

Total - 2,617,572 units / £97.2m

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[B]Physical Software Sales by Format (Units)[/B]

01 (01) PlayStation 4 - 1,042,340 (47.3%)
02 (02) Xbox One - 826,379 (37.5%)
03 (04) Xbox 360 - 107,980 (4.9%)
04 (03) Nintendo 3DS - 83,740 (3.8%)
05 (05) PlayStation 3 - 59,499 (2.7%)
06 (06) Nintendo Wii U - 35,259 (1.6%)
07 (07) PC Software - 35,259 (1.6%)
08 (08) PlayStation Vita - 6,611 (0.3%)
09 (09) Nintendo Wii - 4,407 (0.2%)
10 (10) Nintendo DS - 2,204 (0.1%)

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[B]Physical Software Sales by Format (Revenue)[/B]

01 (01) PlayStation 4 - £40,176,000 (49.6%)
02 (02) Xbox One - £32,076,000 (39.6%)
03 (04) Xbox 360 - £2,916,000 (3.6%)
04 (03) Nintendo 3DS - £2,187,000 (2.7%)
05 (06) PlayStation 3 - £1,620,000 (2%)
06 (07) PC Software - £972,000 (1.2%)
07 (05) Nintendo Wii U - £891,000 (1.1%)
08 (08) PlayStation Vita - £162,000 (0.2%)
09 (09) Nintendo Wii - £81,000 (0.1%)
10 (10) Nintendo DS - (0%)

TOP 10 ENTERTAINMENT SOFTWARE (ALL PRICES) September 2016 (Aug 28th - Oct 1st)

(100%)

01 (NE) FIFA 17 (ELECTRONIC ARTS) - 1,160,000 / NEW
02 (NE) FORZA HORIZON 3 (MICROSOFT) - 60,000-80,000 / NEW
03 (NE) BIOSHOCK: THE COLLECTION (TAKE 2)
04 (NE) PRO EVOLUTION SOCCER 2017 (KONAMI)
05 (04) OVERWATCH (ACTIVISION BLIZZARD) [+15%]
06 (NE) NBA 2K17 (TAKE 2)
07 (06) LEGO STAR WARS: THE FORCE AWAKENS (WARNER BROS. INTERACTIVE)
08 (03) DEUS EX: MANKIND DIVIDED (SQUARE ENIX EUROPE)
09 (05) GRAND THEFT AUTO V (TAKE 2)
10 (08) ROCKET LEAGUE (505 GAMES)
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13 (01) NO MAN'S SKY (SONY COMPUTER ENT.) <20,000 / <178,000 [-87%]
18 (NE) DESTINY: THE COLLECTION (ACTIVISION BLIZZARD)
19 (NE) WORLD OF WARCRAFT: LEGION (ACTIVISION BLIZZARD)
24 (NE) RECORE (MICROSOFT)
26 (NE) THE WITCHER III: WILD HUNT GOTY EDITION (BANDAI NAMCO ENTERTAINMENT)
34 (NE) BATMAN: THE TELLTALE SERIES (TELLTALE GAMES)
37 (NE) XCOM 2 (TAKE 2)
 

noobie

Banned
How many VR titles were released in the retail last week? just wanted to know how many can come make in the top 40?

I dont expect the VR sales will be given but how can we know if it has done decent numbers in the market?
 

Bruno MB

Member
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[Fifa 17 (click for larger view)]

17/Oct/2016

EA&#8217;s &#8216;FIFA 17&#8217; grabs a third consecutive week at No1 (-55%).

Three weeks ago the software market was kicked into life with the launch of EA&#8217;s &#8216;FIFA 17&#8217;. 2 weeks ago saw &#8216;FIFA 17&#8217; carry on at No1 and 2K/Take 2 join the Q4 bonanza with &#8216;Mafia III&#8217; debuting strongly at No2. This week sees more than 80 SKU&#8217;s across software, hardware and accessories released, with the software market climbing over last week and the year to date software revenue 2016 vs 2015 hauled back to just 10% down year on year.

There are no less than 13 New Entries in the Overall Top 40. Microsoft land at No2 with Xbox One format exclusive &#8216;Gears of War 4&#8217;. 2K/Take 2 only drop 1 place to No3 with &#8216;Mafia III&#8217; (-54%) and 2K/Take 2 also debut at No4 with &#8216;WWE 2K17&#8217;. Square Enix take the next of the new entries at No5 with &#8216;Rise of the Tomb Raider: 20 year edition&#8217;. Activision Blizzard&#8217;s &#8216;Skylanders Imaginators&#8217; debuts strongly at No8 and Square Enix have another new entry this week at No13 with &#8216;Dragon Quest Builders&#8217; on PS4. For those that have lost count that&#8217;s 5 of the 13 new entries so far. Incredibly, all of the remaining 8 new entries are Playstation VR titles (9 were launched as boxed propositions), which goes some way to showing just what kind of impact Playstation VR has had in its first week on sale (launched Thursday 13th October). The top performing VR title is Sony&#8217;s VR showcase &#8216;Playstation VR Worlds&#8217; debuting at No7. After that comes &#8216;Until Dawn: Rush of Blood&#8217; (No9), &#8216;Rigs: Mechanised Combat&#8217; (No12), &#8216;Eve: Valkyrie&#8217; (No20), &#8216;DriveClub VR&#8217; (No23), &#8216;Battlezone&#8217; (No28), Maximum Games&#8217; &#8216;Loading Human&#8217; (No36) and finally &#8216;Super Stardust Ultra VR&#8217; (No37). The last VR title, just outside of the Top 40 is &#8216;Hustle Kings VR&#8217;.


1. FIFA 17 - 105,000 (-55%)
2. Gears of War 4
3. Mafia III - 55,000 (-54%)
4. &#8216;WWE 2K17&#8217;
5. Rise of the Tomb Raider: 20 year edition

Gears of War 4 may have missed 100,000 mark and Mafia III had a great second week drop.

Last week 63% of Mafia III sales were for PlayStation 4 SKU, this means that if this week the split was similar Rise of the Tomb Raider: 20 year edition would be over 34,000 units. It may have outsold the original Rise of the Tomb Raider launch for Xbox One (36,000).
 

Hasney

Member
I'm surprised anyone's surprised at Gears numbers. Halo 5 sold 150k. Even with more consoles, nothings going to touch that until a new Halo.


What a strange post.

OléGunner;220339533 said:
PSVR titles doing surprisingly well on the charts which is good news!
If Gears 4 is less than 100k then oh dear.

For a launch line up with that many games pulling you off in directions and retail being the same price as digital, yeah, I'm surprised to see any in the top 10.
 

Chobel

Member
Gears 4 less than 100K may be surprising, but I'm more surprised about Mafia III legs. Why did it have a soft drop?
 

Hasney

Member
to put it into perspective, we live in a world where No Mans Sky sold more then Gears of War in its debut week.

We live in a world where No Mans Sky has outsold almost every major first party game bar Uncharted 4 this generation, so yeah, that was always going to be the case.
 
We live in a world where No Mans Sky has outsold almost every major first party game bar Uncharted 4 this generation, so yeah, that was always going to be the case.

Yeah but this is Gears of War, the last mainline entry sold 300k+its their second biggest franchise.
 

Kyonashi

Member
  • AnthonypUK - 85k
  • Kyonashi - 92k
  • Primethius - 95k
  • bryanee - 97k
  • Ryng_tolu - 105k
  • LiquidSolid - 105k
  • DriftingSpirit - 110k
  • Katana_Strikes - 115k
  • chromatic9 - 115k
  • Rymuth - 115k
  • Javin98 - 115k
  • Dinjooh - 118k
  • OléGunner - 119k
  • Zedark - 120k
  • Chobel - 125k
  • Welfare - 125k
  • Bruno MB - 130k
  • DeadOnions - 160k
  • Chris1 - 180k

Locking predictions here now - we'll see what the blogs report and how Bruno figures out the final predicted number.
 

Jumeira

Banned
Yeah the FH3 numbers online + Xbox being 1 in UK shows a different picture then what can be scraped from these percentages in the charts. Was extremely surprised by both claims as it would've been madness to say so based on all the estimations made in previous weeks threads.
 
Godammit that Gears "number" is horrid. Like I held strong with my prediction despite my anecdote but felt I was overshooting it after that. Almost unimaginable to think Xbox 2nd biggest franchise sells under 100k first week.

Mind blown. That's not good. Despite a resurgence from the format as well.
 
Microsoft might have to start looking for a new flagship franchise. Gone seem to be the days of Halo,Gears and Fable(RIP) pulling the Xbox wagon.
 
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