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The Wii U Speculation Thread VI: The Undiscovered Country
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Smiles and Cries
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I'm not posting in that thread again, its baiting and they know it.
EC saying there is nothing unreasonable about what Vigil is saying is reaching because those guys seem to be covering up plain laziness to me but whatever
there are so many reasons for all ports just to use the same assets as PS360 to WiiU without any improvements. This does not mean WiiU = PS360 but for some reason Eurogamer and Vigil keep shouting this from the mountain tops we just have to wait and see - when Nintendo starts embarrassing 3rd parties maybe they will try harder
EC saying there is nothing unreasonable about what Vigil is saying is reaching because those guys seem to be covering up plain laziness to me but whatever
there are so many reasons for all ports just to use the same assets as PS360 to WiiU without any improvements. This does not mean WiiU = PS360 but for some reason Eurogamer and Vigil keep shouting this from the mountain tops we just have to wait and see - when Nintendo starts embarrassing 3rd parties maybe they will try harder
IntelliHeath
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JoshuaJSlone
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They've released some great screenshots in the past--but they were HD bullshots.TheGreatMightyPoo said:
As a Nintendo whore, of course I'd buy it. I mean, I've got the Balance Board and Zapper kicking around. But it would be a stupidly limited product, and "Wii U" games would look even worse than GameCube games when actually taking heavy advantage of the pad screen. Couldn't be much beyond what the uDraw already is.Triton55 said:
ClovingWestbrook
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It's not baiting. It's Nirolak being Nirolak posting new threads for new news. Whether you agree with said news or not, its not baiting. He isn't Amirox.
Smart move. I've made the same decision, to be applied to most Wii U related threads; it's reminiscent of the student-teacher scenario in those threads.
We'll know more soon enough.
EatChildren
Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
Why is it laziness? Darksiders II would have started development before Nintendo gave THQ kits. The lead SKUs would be Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3. Game design and art assets would prioritise these platforms over everything else, including PC. And my comment about PC ports is correct, because it's an annoyance of mine: many devs target consoles so heavily that assets too infrequently take advantage of the extra power in a PC.
You better get used to a lot of 360/PS3 ports looking just like 360/PS3 games, especially games due to release soon, because these were the target platforms. Expecting Vigil and whoever else to backtrack over their assets and make them nicer just because the Wii U has extra cut is a recipe for disappointment. They don't do it for PC, so why would they do it for a weaker system?
GameplayWhore
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Way to go Mr. Miyamoto
I like the picture they chose to use. It's one of the really familiar ones that are a lot less boring than those you normally see on official websites.
http://nintendoeverything.com/89103/ubisoft-reveals-e3-2012-lineup-full-of-blockbuster-games-and-surprises/ Ubisoft e3 lineup says conference will have wii u games and rayman legends
only reason here could be money...thats something VIGIL/THQ would really need btw...
EatChildren
Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
It's not just THQ who does it. Lots of developers don't bother touching up assets for their PC releases.
ClovingWestbrook
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Well, that and why would they spend extra resources on a console that doesn't have a customer base that rivals the HD twins? Also, as Eat said, it's not worth to spend extra resources for a small uptake of customers who would buy it due to the better visuals that otherwise wouldn't buy it.
Cheesecakebobby
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Nintendo Everything said:
So erm, Ubisoft are going to be showing off Wii U games before Nintendo re-unveils the console at their own conference? OK...
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kittens
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That's what I didn't get about Nintendo being on the last day. Ubi and probably EA aren't going to wait for them if they have Wii U stuff to show.
Skiesofwonder
Walruses, camels, bears, rabbits, tigers and badgers.
They'll have games there for Wii-U (Legends, AC3, Avengers, etc.) but I doubt they will show them being played on Wii-U. That will most likely be saved for the Nintendo conference.
But you never know.....
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
Yeah, I'm concerned that it might apply to other companies that would choose same method as they did for PC.
It might put us in sticky situation as you can see.
During Wii-U lifespan, People would port the games to Wii U for more money, and might not give more assets or update the assets during 360/PS3 era.
When PS4/XBOX8, then they (MIGHT) not port the games to Wii U because they might think they are superior compare to Wii U.
*throw broken crystal ball away*
Smiles and Cries
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You just answered that question with your point about assets from Console to PC
they are making excuses using Nintendo as an excuse. They do not want to even bother, saying if WiiU was powerful enough they would raise their budget... you can smell the PR bullshit in all that. If they had a PC version pushing PC quality assets I would be more likely to believe Nintendo is at fault for a weak ass WiiU here.
Good sign for Nintendo conference, it means they have enough Wii U content to let Ubi showcase its stuff. I guess.
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
They said invitation-only press conference. I wouldn't be surprise that they will force them to sign NDA until end of Nintendo Conference. At same time, It wouldn't be surprise tho. They already leaked Rayman Legend Wii U.
yeah I understand, but MS, Sony and Nintendo might pay devs to make their console version look best. Who should do that with PC? Alienware? HP? or other producers?
but I understand why you mean the games will only look like their PS360 counterparts -btw I'm ok with that- and I only meant that money can make each dev to put more work in a certain version.
They'll wait if the NDAs they signed say they have to. Besides, far more people watch the Nintendo conference than any of the publisher conferences. A game gets more exposure with a one minute trailer during the Nintendo conference than a 20 minute play-through in the Ubisoft or the EA conference, so they won't mind so long as they get a bit of screen-time for their games during the Nintendo presser.
-Pyromaniac-
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So this thread is going to the graveyard tomorrow. And considering today's discussions it looks like things are going full circle more so than usual, so, it has never been a better time
So this thread is going to the graveyard tomorrow. And considering today's discussions it looks like things are going full circle more so than usual, so, it has never been a better time
We shall rise again!
I guess when big news hits someone will put it up on the front page.
I'm pretty much done speculating as well. I need me some info. Juicy, rich info.So this thread is going to the graveyard tomorrow. And considering today's discussions it looks like things are going full circle more so than usual, so, it has never been a better time
Barack Lesnar
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Agreed with Cloving.
AceBandage
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The regulars will continue to post. We'll get some new info one way another.So this thread is going to the graveyard tomorrow. And considering today's discussions it looks like things are going full circle more so than usual, so, it has never been a better time
I don't get why people are going and getting themselves banned less than two weeks from what is guaranteed to be an amazing show.
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Rösti
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I doubt press will have to sign an NDA to attend Ubisoft's E3 2012 media briefing. It will after all be streamed via YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKRWubusKBU
Those watching online probably wouldn't be too happy about an intermission or something for the press to see footage of Wii U titles.
Those watching online probably wouldn't be too happy about an intermission or something for the press to see footage of Wii U titles.
I agree. As beneficial as sharing the stage may supposedly be, I'd rather Nintendo's conference be about Nintendo.
ClovingWestbrook
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OH GOD. I'm scared now.
GameplayWhore
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The fourth thing (the interview with the hardware developer) may not be a video. It might just be just on the page like the Iwata Asks segments.
jump_button
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to be fair only games devs can talk about will be ports good to see it wasn't taken out of context
bigtroyjon
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All of the major E3 press conferences are invitation only
Cheesecakebobby
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Well the main conference is only an hour, maybe Nintendo have decided to let the major third parties do their own announcements, and most of that hour will be devoted to first-party titles and a couple of surprises?
No. Basically 3rd party games will look like 360 games on Wii U.
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
Wait what? only an hour? I was eyeing for an hour and half.
Avoid that thread like the plague. Nothing good is gonna come out of that thread. Seems like bait to me....
cyberheater
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Anyone still believe that WiiU will be demonstrably better then PS360? A generational leap?
What a bloodbath this and the last thread have been. I wished BP would have saved his meltdown for e3.
Yeah, like I said in the edit, I kind of expected this, but it's still a little disappointing. I'm not sure if third parties are doing this to keep parity with the other versions, as to not make them look weaker, or what, but I was hoping that we'd at least get some graphical incentives to pick up Wii U versions, but it's still all good.
Just think though, if Wii U games look like PS360 games at launch, then how much better will they look by the end of the generation, or just half-way through its generation? Something positive to think about there.
jump_button
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why do you think UR4 show that?
lets face it next gen only tech guys will see the jump and PS360 lot are not ready to make the jump but iam more then happy to see Big N make it first
Ideally they show off nothing but first party goodness at the Nintendo conference =D
okay maybe GTAV
Yep. They need to make an impression for the next 6 or so years in one hour.
And plenty of time for Zelda 3DS.
I expect the leap to be a big as from 3DS to PSP. It will be more powerful and hopefully strong enough to handle upcoming engines even if downgrades are needed.
It's definitely going to be more powerful overall. Like I said, look at the differences between launch games, and games coming out midway in a console's life-span.
GameplayWhore
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It's pretty obvious that it'll be demonstrably better, yes. The PS3 and Xbox 360 have had fuck-all for local multiplayer the entire gen.
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