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InFAMOUS [Mafia] [OT] No Good Karma...
- Thread starter melonrabbit
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Blargonaut
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Sounds like scum didn't believe you either.
i never expected scum to bother. That would be pretty dumb.
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I think cabot is Town because this dialogue has continued largely uninterrupted.
cabot, help me kill Kyan Today
cabot, help me kill Kyan Today
OceanicAir
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Honestly, if he didn't I'd be extremely suspicious. Blarg confusing you is almost a rite of passage here.
But that is hardly indicative of anything when half of the remaining players fall under his post count. If he's posting a lot of nothingness that is really safe that would be one thing.
Why Kyan today? Shouldn't at least wait a day to see if second kills are still a thing? There would still be 3 other potential scum in your scenario. If CCS is telling the truth (and he had as far as I can see) then Kyan would be as close to confirmed own aligned as we can get outside of Kawl
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go on then
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wow cabot said that BEFORE he claimed as Commuter
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I think you're scum
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All signs point to yeah
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Everybody dismissed my allegations as conspiratorial trash but SURPRISE they said it all themselves
WHY?
To pre-empt such accusations
WHY?
To pre-empt such accusations
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VOTE: cabot
Zippedpinhead
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Blarg
So what you are saying is that Cabot and Kyan are in it together? And that Cabot is the more dangerous one?
So what you are saying is that Cabot and Kyan are in it together? And that Cabot is the more dangerous one?
Seems somewhat scummy with the "I don't have to answer you!" responses.
Well I'm about to start reading D2 now so things might change. But, to appease you in the meantime:
"*Splinter is one of those rare players that grace the sacred game of forum mafia once in a generation. His chameleon-like nature means that it's impossible to tell if he is town, mafia or even neutral. When I say I lean town on him, I am saying that with the full knowledge that he may indeed be playing us all like a fiddle, and a part of me welcomes it."
Running Commentary on D2
Kyan was possessed by CCS the witch. Trying to think through if scum would willingly come forward with this information. I'm leaning no, but it's important to note that at the time, Kyan didn't know what possession meant. He didn't know it was a redirect. In fact, he thought it was some type of arsonist or fruit vendor. In that case, scum could definitely come forward with that knowledge. If scum knew they had been redirected, they would be much less inclined to say so. So basically, I think that this event doesn't say anything about Kyan's alignment.
Bronx still scum-reads CCS, so this behavior is consistent with his early D2 vote.
Also, starting to get wary of Waffle. She starts the say by saying the flips at the start of D2 "change everything", but never really goes into it. This makes me think she might have extra information about why there were two kills. She later in the day says she is busy which is fine. But even in one or two lines you can make some stances, which I think she is purposefully neglecting to do.
Lots of discussion about CCS being neutral, should we vote him off, blah blah.
Splinter grills cabot.
Blarg votes for Splinter seemingly out of nowhere. Will keep an eye on this thread as I read D2.
CCS seems to genuinely scumread Cabot, and seems to genuinely want him out of the game. If we assume he was telling the truth about his night action (redirect Kyan to Cab) then that's further proof he actually scumread cabot rather than going with the flow as a neutral would usually do.
I see Cabot's x-shot claim, and I totally understand the reservations people had with it. But I feel so sympathetic. In Gafia 3 I was a commuter (I think odd night?) who was scumread really hard. So I had to claim...but once you claim there's basically no way that mafia will target you rendering the role pointless. It IS a convenient role claim for scum, but I understand what it's like to be a commuter too. So keeping that in mind, I shall read on.
OA seems to trust CCS
Why do batsnacks and Kawl keep arguing lol
Blarg makes a good point here.
I really am leaning town on him. He's thinking in a town-like way. Again, I like to think I can read Blarg fairly well after all these years.
So OA invited Waffle and Zeusy to a gossip chat. Interesting I suppose. Waffle didn't realize she was invited. Some people claim this is evidence that Waffle is town. I guess I could see that. But it really depends on if she was on the ball enough to share that in scum chat. Currently, I can't say either way. I don't think it clears her.
So now Cabot claims odd night commuter???? This is a really odd thing to claim after x-shot. What was your reasoning behind this claim? Back when I claimed x-shot commuter (even though I was odd) I never felt the need to go back and redo my claim. So I'd like to know the reasoning.
Hmm well in general the votes on CCS at the end of the day don't mean much, as there was pretty much no choice from all around but to vote him out. He was aligned with nobody so nobody was acting to protect him. It looks like there was going to be a cabot surge at the end, but LP turboed CCS. To protect cabot? Or to prevent town from talking in circles? LP can you answer?
Blarg, do you scum-read Splinter?
I think I'm finally in a position to make some reads! It still feels like I'm behind, but I'll do my best. Players I want to look at more closely include (but not limited to): Sky, Flame, Zipped, Ri, Waffle, Kalor, Isaac, Zeusy, OA, LP (the middle of the range posters).
melonrabbit
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Hell, I'm confused and I know what's what.
Swamped is my new favorite. The rest of you can go home.
On what basis?
Why did you think scum would target you just because you claimed odd-night commuter? That seems somewhat naive for you. Commuter isn't exactly a high-priority threat to the scum team. If you claimed cop or doctor, I expect the mafia team would off you immediately, but commuter is something that can be waited out. To be frank, the fact that you are a loud voice and active poster is sufficient grounds for mafia to want you dead, if you are town. Probably lower priority than the active confirmed townies, though.
Of course, we are not privy to how scum thinks. So I am not sure how your "test" is supposed to work. These feel like strange excuses and explanations for your claim.
If I was a commuter in your situation N1 and D2, I probably would have claimed too. However, the change in claim is suspicious. I would have believed it if you had said that you wanted to keep scum guessing, but wanting to be lynched is something that I don't buy.
The change in claim could always just be cabot being worried about someone being able to grab his role information / role power and then calling him out on the details and wasting a lynch. cabot knows that an x-shot commuter is more powerful than odd night as he could be gone at any time making scum unsure of when to hit him.
melonrabbit
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Oh, you're all still here.
Well, then...
CURRENT D3 VOTES:
ri'orius (1)
kalor 1699
bronx-man (1)
cabot 1700
isaacnukem (2)
waffletaco 1724
zippedpinhead 1802
cabot (1)
blargonaut 1733 (1791)
kyanrute 1747 (1889)
blargonaut 1919
kyanrute (0)
blargonaut 1794 (1919)
DAY 3 ends iN:
Automated vote tally here
9 votes 2 majority
Well, then...
CURRENT D3 VOTES:
ri'orius (1)
kalor 1699
bronx-man (1)
cabot 1700
isaacnukem (2)
waffletaco 1724
zippedpinhead 1802
cabot (1)
blargonaut 1919
kyanrute (0)
DAY 3 ends iN:
Automated vote tally here
9 votes 2 majority
Lone_Prodigy
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Lack of second kill:
1. Both killers hit bats.
2. Scum blocker blocked second killer.
3. Kill was nullified by BP/commuter/whatever.
4. Someone slept in and didn't submit a kill.
1. Both killers hit bats.
2. Scum blocker blocked second killer.
3. Kill was nullified by BP/commuter/whatever.
4. Someone slept in and didn't submit a kill.
Someone only has x-shot kills and doesn't want to waste it after using it on AB for town following Day 1. Sure that'd mean there's 2 vig, but I'd say it's possible.
I scumread TheG with the posts he made and Swamped seems to be making ...interesting assumptions from the day.
As for the second rambling part, This theory was more credible before CCS flipped, obviously after that I was pretty sure I'd be untouched by scum.
Like I don't know why Swamped is trying to justify CCS as going after his 'true' scumread.
1) It's irrelevant.
2) It's probably a lie, because he was choosing to kill the person who brought him into the limelight.
I also seriously question the shade being thrown at Waffle as genuine.
Her strong town read on Blarg is suspect, because so far I've not yet seen anything truly alignment indicative from Blarg.
I'm feeling better about Splinter from her though, she seems to be developing a negative outlook on him.
1) It's irrelevant.
2) It's probably a lie, because he was choosing to kill the person who brought him into the limelight.
I also seriously question the shade being thrown at Waffle as genuine.
Her strong town read on Blarg is suspect, because so far I've not yet seen anything truly alignment indicative from Blarg.
I'm feeling better about Splinter from her though, she seems to be developing a negative outlook on him.
kyaaa wanted to look at people who are doing little and sheeping other ppl
but well
things happen
but kyaaa was thinking of murder zipped or bronx
isaac not bad per se but man the content of his is fucking wicked sick
sick in the way that would scum really be that wicked
maybe not but did not read so
still not that against cabbo but might prefer more zzz characters
the recent exchange with blarg made kyaaa not really change his opinion about blarg
blarg still entertaining and kyaaa no idea what blarg is
sad that the vigi is dead, couldve shot blarg otherwise
but well
things happen
but kyaaa was thinking of murder zipped or bronx
isaac not bad per se but man the content of his is fucking wicked sick
sick in the way that would scum really be that wicked
maybe not but did not read so
still not that against cabbo but might prefer more zzz characters
the recent exchange with blarg made kyaaa not really change his opinion about blarg
blarg still entertaining and kyaaa no idea what blarg is
sad that the vigi is dead, couldve shot blarg otherwise
Flame. The feeling I had, on the top of my drunken head, was that he is somewhat fluffy. I could go back to d1 or so and find the post where I think I mentioned some similar details compared to this post, but naaah.
Kyaaa thinks snackbats' item was fake and speculation like this could be fluff. On the other hand, it could be bait to see who fluffs even harder or an attempt to get some details out of ppl who actually might know what the deal was. Seeing how no grand reveal has happened so far, the 1st case is bit more likely, though to Flame's favor, the latter case cannot certainly be overruled.
This then goes bit too far. The logic is fair, certainly, but why does it stop where it stops? -There is no reason for a confirmed town to lie... unless they were not lying per se, but baiting kills. Again, one cannot expect everyone to reach this conclusion (not even certain if this conclusion is the correct one), but it stings no matter what.
Why Zipped and Ri? Opinion posts are nice so props for that, even though the explanation is lacking.
Various posts about theory, not about scum hunting per se. Not bad things in their context, but fits the general idea of fluff.
Kyaaa thinks snackbats' item was fake and speculation like this could be fluff. On the other hand, it could be bait to see who fluffs even harder or an attempt to get some details out of ppl who actually might know what the deal was. Seeing how no grand reveal has happened so far, the 1st case is bit more likely, though to Flame's favor, the latter case cannot certainly be overruled.
This then goes bit too far. The logic is fair, certainly, but why does it stop where it stops? -There is no reason for a confirmed town to lie... unless they were not lying per se, but baiting kills. Again, one cannot expect everyone to reach this conclusion (not even certain if this conclusion is the correct one), but it stings no matter what.
Why Zipped and Ri? Opinion posts are nice so props for that, even though the explanation is lacking.
Various posts about theory, not about scum hunting per se. Not bad things in their context, but fits the general idea of fluff.
That is cabot wants to kill Kyaaa the post. Kyaaa very worried. Kyaaa think cabot is of great mafia god who would not claim like he did, were he town so Kyaaa is of much confuse.
And yes if cabot filp town Kyaaa will use various posts to cover for himself. Kyaaa good at making cover like Blarg noticed.
Well that's nice you think so highly of me, but yeah. I botched my claim.
Thought my claim would help show CCS was useless to town, got overexcited and claimed when I shouldn't have.
We just have to deal with the consequences now.
Kyaaa still thinks it is curious that only cabot has shown interest in the question what no one has asked.
Very curious indeed, especially when cabot's reaction was what it was.
But again, it is only Kyaaa's view that cabot reacted to the question. cabot himself does not say that the question was in his mind.
Still, the lack of the question is odd. Not that bringing it up would do any good, but still, odd. Fits the reserved nature of this game I guess, I had to milk the CCS' clarification after all. Me. Come on.
Still, the lack of the question is odd. Not that bringing it up would do any good, but still, odd. Fits the reserved nature of this game I guess, I had to milk the CCS' clarification after all. Me. Come on.