LOL no. The reason they do those is so that people who have zero desire to touch Un cards have a reason to buy packs
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Magic: the Gathering |OT13| Ixalan - Port to Sideboard
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LOL no. The reason they do those is so that people who have zero desire to touch Un cards have a reason to buy packs
Feels like Zendikar done right imo. Lets hope that the second set doesnt shit the bed with some bullshit.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
ye olde slither blade equipment ramp deck.
Ooccoo
Member
Exactly
One drop that gets you some late game:
Hmm.
Cool idea. Not sure if I want it, and I'm looking at tokens with Lifegain. How many legendary one drops do you want to put in your deck just to make sure you land this on turn 1 or whatever? And it's not like it works with Oketra's Monument like Sacred Cat does (though it's far better in the late game than bringing back a cat for another go around).
Again, cool idea though. And not hard to flip. But still.
hey wishful thinking is a thing man
divisionbyzorro
Member
Well, if you're behind, you're further behind after you cast this.
RuinerPrime
Member
lol I'm gonna TRY and stop at 25 (5 mono,10 two color, 10 three color)
currently making Baral & Tishana.
That puts me at 1 mono, 8 two color, 8 three color
Wow, that flavor is amazing!
Looks decent enough in limited, if a bit expensive. Not like players are going to hold back much with Raid and such, so might as well get some free treasure out of it.
But again, 4 mana is a bit much for what is essentially ramping 1 mana (assuming you don't save it).
charlequin
Banned
The cycle of color lands is Legendary and they all have to be on both sides, I figure they just didn't want to go any higher than the five.
Yes, that a lot of the set's cool cards are DFCs or at uncommon.
I do like this set a lot though. Even as a tribal set it still seems to be carrying over pretty strongly from the Amonkhet idea of having cool individual cards more than super synergy-driven stuff.
Controlled leaks, I tell you!
So I have the Japan Nationals on in the background at work and it works pretty good having it be tape delayed and having Marshal and Cheon commentating from Seattle. They are able to jump from game to game and have a lot more displays with deck info. Day one sucked because of mic problems and Marshal's co-host wasn't good but day two is pretty good.
Where are you watching this?
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
I think this set looks rad as hell but I'm not really sure how this impacts Standard. I haven't really seen a super efficient Dinosaur deck coming out of this or anything.
It was actually insanely annoying listening to Marshall and Cheon constantly pull for Shota Yasooka because they're friends with him. I get that there aren't really standards in a Magic: the Gathering broadcast, but I don't think it's too much to ask to not actively cheerlead for a specific player.
Making treasure is completely in pie for red...rituals (temp. ramp) are red and that's exactly what treasure is.
It was actually insanely annoying listening to Marshall and Cheon constantly pull for Shota Yasooka because they're friends with him. I get that there aren't really standards in a Magic: the Gathering broadcast, but I don't think it's too much to ask to not actively cheerlead for a specific player.
Making treasure is completely in pie for red...rituals (temp. ramp) are red and that's exactly what treasure is.
Look on the Magic Twitch account VODs.
Couldn't care less. Its more fun as the viewer if the commentators are having fun. Watch day one coverage for the dry boring stuff.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
I mean, I'm not exactly upset about it (I mean, it's Magic, I don't expect it to be called by Vin Scully or anything), it was just irritating. Just call the match, guys.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
If only Soulfire Grand Master was still legal so I could cast Star of Extinction.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
Yeah marshall attributing some wins shota earned when his opponent had drawn 3 or so more lands than he did to some tremendous skill instead of variance was weird.
Especially when it was the quasi mirror.
Especially when it was the quasi mirror.
And I disagree. Greed is white/black. If you want to make rituals good then just print Dark Ritual in red.
That happens in all of sports commentating.
it's the color of communism, not capitalism, comrade
the flip cards are the best thing about this set
That makes it even more egregious. Red has zero investigate cards but it's treasure so it's somehow red?
SigmasonicX
Member
Treasure is red making artifacts, with a flavor that connects to high seas adventures, that produces mana. Hoarding treasure is also strongly affiliated with dragons. The sort of greed displayed here is different than we'd see from white and black. They are greedy because they specifically want money for its utility. Red is flavored as wanting it for the sake of having it, and the utility is incidental.
Rituals have the issue that they're either junk, too good, or junk except in storm. These one-shot sources they've printed recently seem to have a much better middle ground.
RuinerPrime
Member
agree with this
Risking your live for Treasure sounds super red or black to me. I think it works.
Blood Moon -> Dark Depths -> Disenchant the Blood Moon?
Yeah, that now works. If Dark Depths was Modern-legal, it would be high time to brew with Magus of the Moon (easier to kill/sac a creature than an enchantment)
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
I mean, there are way easier ways to abuse Dark Depths hence it being probably SUPER BANNED. Vampire Hexmage and Thespian's Stage only require 2 cards to function.
I'm not sure exactly how you can disagree with the factual assertion that rituals are now a red ability and that creating Lotus Petals is a ritual effect.
Dark Depths is already banned because there's a ton of easier combos. The Blood Moon - Depths combo isn't even a bannable interaction because you can't even pull it off until turn 4 because both Magus and Blood Moon cost 3 mana to cast, and the interaction doesn't work correctly unless you have them on the battlefield before you play Dark Depths.
charlequin
Banned
Pirates as a tempo deck seems like a more obvious outcome from this set so far than anything else.
Red ramp cards have historically been very sketchy in terms of actual flavoring, but the idea here at least is that red is into hedonistic spending, so it can get a bunch of money and then blow it all on some big fancy purchase.
They've printed like two more in the last year, too.
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
Scrooge McDuck is black/red right?
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
I'd say Scrooge is basically mono-red, really. I could see mono-black too, but not black/red - Rakdos doesn't really seem right to me.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
That may be true, but I'm forcing Naya Dinosaurs in standard regardless of whether its good.
Probably just black?
How is greed green? I know we joke about it, but by definition greed is wanting more than you need. Thats the opposite of green, which is balance and harmony and the natural cycle. You dont get greedy lions after all.
Greed is absolutely red and black, and also blue I think depending upon flavour.
Greed is absolutely red and black, and also blue I think depending upon flavour.
Scrooge is definitely just black.
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
Dude seems less concerned with actually exerting power and more just having the wealth to do whatever fanciful adventure he feels like at a moment's notice
Thats the sort of vein in which "ostentatious wealth" makes sense in red to me. Red likes a bunch of gold because red likes to lose it all during one wild night in Vegas
Tracking is definitely green.
Hoarding wealth and building up a base of power is black. Getting rich then immediately spending it all is red.
SigmasonicX
Member
As portrayed in the comics and DuckTales, Scrooge cares far more about adventure than making money normally. In Don Rosa's stories, the Money Bin is solely money he earned himself, and he doesn't spend any of it, largely due to the sentimental value. That said, he is also infamously stingy.
Scrooge the adventurer is red, especially with how attached he is to his family despite himself. Scrooge the businessman/duck is black. Overall, he's black/red.
But invesigate tokens are artifacts which green hates because they're not natural.
Being attached to your family can also be read as black (see: Tywin Lannister.) It's an extension of self-interest.
Is it wrong that I want to use Settle the Wreckage against my own tokens turn 4/turn 5? 1 creature turn 1, Servo Exhibition turn 2, Weaponcraft Enthusiast turn 3. Swing in turn 4, end of combat cast Settle the Wreckage and untap turn 5 with 10 mana before your land drop? Obviously that's the best case scenario and it has no chance as a legit deck. After game 1 at FNM your opponent is going to drastically change their game plan but having Angel of Invention, Herald of Anguish, and maybe something like Overwhelming Splendor as your win cons you're not relying on the jank combo to pop off.
Either way I think i'm going to stick with building a W/? token deck as i'm having a lot of fun with W/B currently.
Either way I think i'm going to stick with building a W/? token deck as i'm having a lot of fun with W/B currently.
ThLunarian
Member
Scrooge is definitely impulsive though, which is not at all black alone.
He would be black/red, but it's more like he's the greener half of red and the bluer half of black. That's as opposed to the Joker, who is the blacker half of red and the redder half of black.
He would be black/red, but it's more like he's the greener half of red and the bluer half of black. That's as opposed to the Joker, who is the blacker half of red and the redder half of black.
SigmasonicX
Member
Scrooge logically wants nothing to do with them, but justifies that they're cheap labor, particularly Donald. But emotionally, he loves them and enjoys spending time with them. A notable moment where he acts against his self interest is in that Don Rosa story about Norse mythology. At the end, Odin offers to take Scrooge to Valhalla, but he refuses, to spend more time with his family, IIRC.
And DuckTales emphasizes his emotional connection more. Take the new pilot, where he brought the boys and Webby to Atlantis on a whim, in order to impress them.