Source: http://m.windowscentral.com/windows-10-game-mode
More details in the source, looks like a nice feature
More details in the source, looks like a nice feature
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Windows 10 Game Mode, what it does, how it works
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michaelius
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So they are fighting against non existing problem ?
Also works with win32, thankfully
SeeNoWeevil
Member
I'm interested to see if this helps the stuttering/inconsistency some people still see with FH3.
BleedOrange
Banned
Windows is a generalist OS that some people use for gaming. Providing an optimized Game Mode is a very real and tangible benefit for users of Windows who prefer to use it for gaming as opposed to general multitasking.
Uhm, it's called enhancing an experience.
Good thing that if you keep reading it works with things like Steam too, but sure.
Considering Gears is UWA and it runs better than more or less all the Win32 apps I've seen in a long ass time...
TemplaerDude
Member
Will always take any performance boosts, especially free ones.
Which says nothing about how it could run being a Win32 app.
I find this a dumb what if argument.
It works great as it is, say what you want.
Win32 don't magically make games run great.
Regardless of peoples snappy jokes about it, it's a great addition for people. In the end it may improve peoples experience and I'm all for it.
michaelius
Banned
See guys that's where actually being PC gamer helps (I've checked your post history and couldn't find anything about pc that wasn't related to UWP and Microsoft for some weird reason).
I've played on pcs with windows 95, 98SE, XP, Vista, 7, 8, 8.1 and haven't noticed problems with consistency of performance on any of them.
BRocknRolla
Member
I hope this turns out and works well. I hope as well that there's an allowance for white-listing certain things like OCing programs.
IcyRhythms
Member
I'm going to keep an open mind about things like this. No need to shit on it because it's Microsoft and UWP. I'll give them another year or two of improvements and go from there.
BleedOrange
Banned
cringe
I dunno man it seems to me that PC gaming is growing in popularity, and with that growth will inevitably be more and more people who's pc's are not setup ideally.
There's nothing WRONG with trying to provide a better experience to those who could use the assistance. Of all the things to bash about MS' pc attempts, this one is at worst, harmless.
LukasTaves
Member
It allows you to maximize performance without having to close the games yourself, not to mention stop unwanted notifications from getting into the way of your game.
It's a nice feature to have on a multi tasking os, even if it doesn't set the world on fire.
I've had cases (on my pretty weak laptop) where some processes would occasionally cause stuttering in games. I mean, I can sort of solve it by disabling a whole bunch of services, but some of those services are actually nice to have (like update services, search indexing, services I use for programming like postgresql etc.), so it would be nice if those services turned themselves back on after I'm done gaming, which this sounds like it does.
I doubt it will matter on dedicated gaming PCs though.
justsomeguy
Member
I'm going to get all the terminology here wrong but bear with me...
Someone a while back said that full screen windowed mode can get more frame pacing issues due to the window compositor... Something like that... Wonder if this addresses that ?
Someone a while back said that full screen windowed mode can get more frame pacing issues due to the window compositor... Something like that... Wonder if this addresses that ?
I actually agree, wow!
As I said above, I very much doubt its efficacy for me and most PC gamers, but it also seems very far from the worst thing MS has done recently.
Of course, this is only true under the tacit assumption that it's not equipped with some UWP-specific hooks that are only UWP-specific in order to push the platform rather than for any real technical reason.
Since you brought this up though I can't help but note that Win32 games have access to something called exclusive fullscreen mode which inherently prevents unwanted desktop notifications from bothering you, and the compositor from interfering
Complicated
Banned
How you came to this conclusion from the text you quoted must be a tale for the ages. Jesus.
I seriously think concerns about EEE are baseless at most unless you were the worlds biggest Netscape fan, its become almost a buzzword criticism
No. The Windows' compositor just uses real triple-buffered Vsync, which is sometimes desirable. It would only be better for frame pacing if you're continuously falling below your target refresh rate with wildly fluctuating frame rates. Normally your best and first option should be full screen double-buffed Vsync, assuming you can maintain your target.
User123456
Member
Well that's the point of this, isn't it? To make it easier for the average guy. It's about lowering the barrier of entry.
Not everything MS does is good but I'm on board with this at least conceptually.
Delusibeta
Banned
FYI, you can get all the benefits of Game Mode today, simply by disabling Game DVR and using whatever alternative comes with your graphics card drivers.
LukasTaves
Member
This continues to sound like another of the dozens of Game Booster gimmicks. Disabling system and background processes is nothing new, and likely only helpful if your PC is misconfigured and bloated with malware and other nonsense.
It doesn't seem to target bloatware, but rather stuff you want to run. It sounds more like a convenience to not having to close even the most demanding applications while gaming, and once you are done they are right where you left them.
SliChillax
Member
ETA?
LukasTaves
Member
I actually agree, wow!
As I said above, I very much doubt its efficacy for me and most PC gamers, but it also seems very far from the worst thing MS has done recently.
Of course, this is only true under the tacit assumption that it's not equipped with some UWP-specific hooks that are only UWP-specific in order to push the platform rather than for any real technical reason.
Since you brought this up though I can't help but note that Win32 games have access to something called exclusive fullscreen mode which inherently prevents unwanted desktop notifications from bothering you, and the compositor from interfering
I also know for a fact that win32 applications can bypass that, sometimes even windows itself. And since exclusive fullscreen applications are not expected to lose focus that can cause all sorts of problems with you accidently hit that notification for example.
But hey, that's easily solvable, you can just stop using the applications that cause these custom popups to show up, or you can use this free feature that's added to the system and might help dealing with the problem.
Hitting the preview build of Windows 10 in the next few days/months by the time it is optimised. Then it will be live with the creator update whenever that hits.
As for the performance gains, if you on a decent gaming rig (high end i5/i7 CPU with a 900 series or above Nvidia GPU and an SSD) I bet there is going to be very minor changes apart from maybe UWP apps might gain like 5% is specifically coded for Win 10 and its features.
For lower end machines you may see a larger increase in performance as it will kill random HDD background tasks and free up some CPU bottleneck.
It's a good option to add but for people with gaming rigs this is by no means going to be a game changer. Overtime it will hopefully get better as more people code applications with it in mind.
So if I'm reading this correctly, you have to have access to the Game Bar to switch it on, but if you have had performance issues due to Game DVR and have disabled it, you won't be able to access this anyway... or does the game bar still work even with that disabled?
Kind of what I expect, but still curious. Seems silly to lock it to the Game Bar
Anandtech said it will be in the Fast Ring build targetted to go out tomorrow.
EDIT: Fuck it...not worth it.
For Windows 10 Insiders, it seems the build will come out tomorrow.
Sorry I meant by the time it is ready to check out properly will be a few weeks/months
Crimsonclaw111
Member
Does this mean I'll finally be able to play Forza Horizon 3 without the garbage stuttering? Because if so I'll re-download it.
I actually agree, wow!
As I said above, I very much doubt its efficacy for me and most PC gamers, but it also seems very far from the worst thing MS has done recently.
Of course, this is only true under the tacit assumption that it's not equipped with some UWP-specific hooks that are only UWP-specific in order to push the platform rather than for any real technical reason.
Since you brought this up though I can't help but note that Win32 games have access to something called exclusive fullscreen mode which inherently prevents unwanted desktop notifications from bothering you, and the compositor from interfering
Yeah, the extent of this remains to be seen, but I wouldn't be surprised to see that the contained nature of UWP does provide effeciencies when it comes to managing resources.
It would suck to see Win32 games getting a shorter stick for no reason other than to bolster the position of UWP, but I do believe the benefits will be minor enough on average, to not be a big deal either way. As has been mentioned before, there ARE ways to get the same benefits w/o MS.