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duckroll · Mar 28, 2013

Zzzzzzz. Looks like we won't get any proper direct feed stuff until next week. Check the previous thread for all the details: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=529911

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http://www.famitsu.com/news/201303/28030925.html

Mauricio_Magus · Mar 28, 2013

I'm loving the idea of this game, it might bring more people into the series, and then we can get V.

*goes back to play IV*

Loving the character designs so far, even if there's nothing as good as my precious dancer

HolyBaikal · Mar 28, 2013

Keep em' coming.

Your F.O.E.s can't keep me down!

Daedardus · Mar 28, 2013

Does this dress make me look fat?

vareon · Mar 28, 2013

I hope the blonde protector makes a cameo.

MLH · Mar 28, 2013

I really hope they big back the orange blob F.O.E even as just an option, IMO they are sort of characteristic to the series; the mystery of not knowing what you are about to encounter is pretty cool.

spiritfox · Mar 28, 2013

Like I said, MC has a stupid sword-spear thing. How does that even work.

Anyway, I actually quite like most of the new designs. That protector is no blonde protector, but she's pretty good. And I'm a sucker for redheads.

duckroll · Mar 28, 2013

Just saw the full scans. Can confirm the following:

- Ren and Tlachtga are part of the party with the main character in one of the battle screens.

- The mapping tools are updated to be similar to EO4's options.

- While the game retains the characters, base story, and some of the bosses of EO1, the rest of the game seems mostly new. There's a screen of B2F being fully mapped out, and it looks totally different from the B2F map in EO1.

- There's a screen showing an available Mission, and it doesn't seem like any of the EO1 missions either.

- One major change for story events is that character portraits now have different expressions and stuff while talking, and there can be multiple portraits on the screen to show the people talking to each other. Similar to how it's done in other JRPGs.

Edit:

- I also feel that some of the screens they show of the dungeon looks better graphically than EO4.

cj_iwakura · Mar 28, 2013

duckroll said:
Just saw the full scans. Can confirm the following:

- Ren and Tlachtga are part of the party with the main character in one of the battle screens.

Oh, that'll be fun in the 5th Stratum. That's what I was hoping to hear, they're my favorite characters.

- The mapping tools are updated to be similar to EO4's options.

- While the game retains the characters, base story, and some of the bosses of EO1, the rest of the game seems mostly new. There's a screen of B2F being fully mapped out, and it looks totally different from the B2F map in EO1.

- There's a screen showing an available Mission, and it doesn't seem like any of the EO1 missions either.

- One major change for story events is that character portraits now have different expressions and stuff while talking, and there can be multiple portraits on the screen to show the people talking to each other. Similar to how it's done in other JRPGs.

Edit:

- I also feel that some of the screens they show of the dungeon looks better graphically than EO4.

Can't wait, this is my favorite EO. Also love the set character designs so far.

daripad · Mar 28, 2013

What is this exactly? A remake of the first game?

jj984jj · Mar 28, 2013

They've redone the floors and missions too? I'm a bit interested now, it looks like they're redoing things properly. It still has the classes to keep things interesting too.

Pureauthor · Mar 28, 2013

daripad said:
What is this exactly? A remake of the first game?

More of a reimagining, but yeah, more or less a remake.

Looks like it'll have enough new gameplay to keep me interested.

spiritfox · Mar 28, 2013

daripad said:
What is this exactly? A remake of the first game?

A reimagining of the first game, with a greater emphasis on the story.

You know, looking at the background image, I wonder if they're going to change the 5th stratum.

It looks too futuristic compared to Lost Shinjuku, so maybe they're gonna push the "apocalypse" to a more future date. Then again, Lost Shinjuku didn't really point to a time period other than "modern".

Oh and if they lose B27F I'm gonna laugh.

vall03 · Mar 28, 2013

Im getting excited with the new details. Already sold with Ren and Tlachtga being playable and there seems to be substantial changes and additional content. So far, I really like the design of the Medic and the Protector.

tuffy · Mar 28, 2013

The designs look pretty good, but I'm still not sold on the idea of playing through the game with a bunch of predefined characters.

spiritfox · Mar 28, 2013

Man I can't get over how shit the MC design is. What's with those pants? And that hair? And that stupid fur cape? And that weapon??

I really hope they at least have alternate designs for the MC. Or maybe a female option.

cj_iwakura · Mar 28, 2013

spiritfox said:
A reimagining of the first game, with a greater emphasis on the story.

You know, looking at the background image, I wonder if they're going to change the 5th stratum.

It looks too futuristic compared to Lost Shinjuku, so maybe they're gonna push the "apocalypse" to a more future date. Then again, Lost Shinjuku didn't really point to a time period other than "modern".

Oh and if they lose B27F I'm gonna laugh.

Yeah, the

Explorer's Abattoir

would be pretty nightmarish to see.

jj984jj · Mar 28, 2013

The new details makes me wish this wasn't story oriented with VA since it might effect localization chances as well, EO has never been big here at all.

spiritfox · Mar 28, 2013

cj_iwakura said:
Yeah, the

Explorer's Abattoir

would be pretty nightmarish to see.

Hell, I would like to see the entire 6th stratum make though untouched. EO4's 6th was not very interesting, and lacked a lot of the crazy shit that the other post-game strata had.

EvilMario · Mar 28, 2013

Character art looks less terrible than IV, although that's not a great accomplishment.

duckroll · Mar 28, 2013

Okay I was reaaaaaaaaaally bored. So i booted up EO4, and drew the B2F map from New EO for a comparison. Lolz.

Original:

New EO:

spiritfox · Mar 28, 2013

This was on Himukai's website.

duckroll · Mar 28, 2013

Here's the ad spread from Famitsu:

Totakeke · Mar 28, 2013

Maybe it's just nostalgia goggles speaking, but I liked EO1's general mapping more than EO4 because EO4's design is too streamlined making it easy to guess where the shortcuts are. So the maps are kind of boring. Of course, I also like EO4's because it has little of that excessive trying until you get it right labyrinth designs.

Pureauthor · Mar 28, 2013

Irving's pigtail things look weird in every shot I see them.

Aeana · Mar 28, 2013

jj984jj said:
The new details makes me wish this wasn't story oriented with VA since it might effect localization chances as well, EO has never been big here at all.

I don't think there's anything to worry about on that front at all.

javac · Mar 28, 2013

Being on 3DS is pretty much the norm for games like this now isn't it?

Pureauthor · Mar 28, 2013

javac said:
Being on 3DS is pretty much the norm for games like this now isn't it?

Putting them on handhelds has been the norm since last gen, really.

tuffy · Mar 28, 2013

Though for 3D dungeon-crawlers in particular, there's a lot of benefit to having a whole extra screen that can be dedicated to maps. So it's no surprise we're seeing a lot of them.

javac · Mar 28, 2013

Pureauthor said:
Putting them on handhelds has been the norm since last gen, really.

I mean I'm not complaining. But every time I see a thread like this I wonder "what platform do you think it'll be on..." And once I click on the thread I'm like duh how could I not guess its a 3DS title at this point lol.

scy · Mar 28, 2013

I'm honestly not bothered in the slightest by having set characters. I just hope that they do a lot with the set characters, though it seems like I don't really have to worry on this based off what we've seen so far.

I don't craft my own narrative really so I suppose I'm in the minority (maybe?) as far as EO is concerned, however.

Aeana · Mar 28, 2013

javac said:
I mean I'm not complaining. But every time I see a thread like this I wonder "what platform do you think it'll be on..." And once I click on the thread I'm like duh how could I not guess its a 3DS title at this point lol.

Etrian Odyssey needs a touch screen, and in particular it needs the stylus for map drawing to be as easy as it can be.

vagabondarts · Mar 28, 2013

The criticism Etrian Odyssey gets from western reviewers and some newcomers, it mostly falls on there being no traditional story. This seems to address those complaints.

It will be interesting to see how it turns out.

tuffy said:
Though for 3D dungeon-crawlers in particular, there's a lot of benefit to having a whole extra screen that can be dedicated to maps. So it's no surprise we're seeing a lot of them.

I want more. MORE!

Magicpaint · Mar 28, 2013

I think I've made up my mind on this now. It looks and sounds really interesting and it will be nice to play a re-imagining of the first game...but I still kinda hope it doesn't represent the norm for future EO game because I love the create a party aspect of it and the non-intrusive storylines.

Talaysen · Mar 28, 2013

No Jack Frost hat clip on the gunner? Or hat for that matter? Lame.

In seriousness, still looking good. Changing the maps is a really great idea, though it seems pretty obvious.

Mauricio_Magus · Mar 28, 2013

scy said:
I'm honestly not bothered in the slightest by having set characters. I just hope that they do a lot with the set characters, though it seems like I don't really have to worry on this based off what we've seen so far.

I don't craft my own narrative really so I suppose I'm in the minority (maybe?) as far as EO is concerned, however.

I don't craft my own narrative too... so I don't mind, and we can rest/change classes with them anyways. I'm actually hyped for a EO with character development and voice acting, I hope Atlus doesn't have problems localizing it(leave the Original VA's for US PLEASE).

Also, it's not a numbered sequel and I'm sure V will be made for the hardcore fans.

Can't wait to get more story about Lost Shinjuku

Man God · Mar 28, 2013

Aeana said:
Etrian Odyssey needs a touch screen, and in particular it needs the stylus for map drawing to be as easy as it can be.

Yep, even though I was too lazy to buy/go get one from storage and mapped out 95% of EO III with the edge of one fingernail you really want that stylus. It's so much faster.

Deified Data · Mar 28, 2013

The most consistent thing about this excellent series is my hatred of its art style. Some things never change.

Ferrio · Mar 28, 2013

Etiran IV was my first, and I've put more hours into it than any RPG (not to mention single player game) since the PS2. I was pretty sure I was going to get bored of it 10 hours into the game... but something about it is so addicting.

I will certainly pick this one up.

stuminus3 · Mar 28, 2013

I kind of like the idea of revisiting EO1 but it being largely new content. EO1 had the most interesting scenario. EO4 is silly even though it's a far better game.

javac said:
Being on 3DS is pretty much the norm for games like this now isn't it?

That depends, did you buy Grimrock?

Mauricio_Magus · Mar 28, 2013

Deified Data said:
The most consistent thing about this excellent series is my hatred of its art style. Some things never change.

What's wrong with this one? I mean, I know it's personal and all but I fucking love the artstyle and I'm constantly trying to buy the artbooks because I think it's gorgeous.

EO is easily my favorite new IP of the last gen, I can't believe it's done so well. Already 5 games... so proud

ohlawd · Mar 28, 2013

more Etrian Odyssey for a new scrub like me?

Yess, so bought.

Mauricio_Magus · Mar 28, 2013

I hope they do this with the 3 old ones, EO3 with a focus on story? that sounds amazing

Deified Data · Mar 28, 2013

Mauricio_Magus said:
What's wrong with this one? I mean, I know it's personal and all but I fucking love the artstyle and I'm constantly trying to buy the artbooks because I think it's gorgeous.

EO is easily my favorite new IP of the last gen, I can't believe it's done so well. Already 5 games... so proud

Eh, not a big fan of the moe. Glad it still deliver for fans, though.

Mauricio_Magus · Mar 28, 2013

Deified Data said:
Eh, not a big fan of the moe. Glad it still deliver for fans, though.

I know it sounds weird and I can get avatar quoted for it, but I dislike fanservice and moe in general. I just think the art style is so effective and well done, EO wouldn't be the same without it.

Deified Data · Mar 28, 2013

Mauricio_Magus said:
I know it sounds weird and I can get avatar quoted for it, but I dislike fanservice and moe in general. I just think the art style is so effective and well done, EO wouldn't be the same without it.

It's definitely quality, no doubt about that. I even prefer Japanese aesthetics when I can get them. I guess I just prefer a more realistic look. In EO games I tend to build my party around only those units that have an "adult" avatar.

Eusis · Mar 28, 2013

Aeana said:
I don't think there's anything to worry about on that front at all.

Yeah, EO's always been a steady seller worth localizing here, even the EO4 numbers seem like they're probably fine for it, and the changes here are just as likely to draw more people here as in Japan unless it's a complete failure of an initiative. I wouldn't worry very seriously beyond the simple fact nothing's guaranteed until it's out.

javac said:
Being on 3DS is pretty much the norm for games like this now isn't it?

It's always been a handhelds series, partially for reasons Aeana laid out, but also because it's traditionally been a low end series that wouldn't really fly on modern consoles, at least as a full retail product.

Mauricio_Magus · Mar 28, 2013

Deified Data said:
It's definitely quality, no doubt about that. I even prefer Japanese aesthetics when I can get them. I guess I just prefer a more realistic look. In EO games I tend to build my party around only those units that have an "adult" avatar.

that's understandable, and it kinda sucks how in EO4 the "males" look kinda lame compared to the others.

Pureauthor · Mar 29, 2013

Mauricio_Magus said:
that's understandable, and it kinda sucks how in EO4 the "males" look kinda lame compared to the others.

Don't you be talking bad about the prettiest Landsknecht on the block.

KarmaCow · Mar 29, 2013

duckroll said:
Just saw the full scans. Can confirm the following:

- The mapping tools are updated to be similar to EO4's options.

- While the game retains the characters, base story, and some of the bosses of EO1, the rest of the game seems mostly new. There's a screen of B2F being fully mapped out, and it looks totally different from the B2F map in EO1.

Ugh I was feeling better when this was just a remake so I could ignore what was hopefully a one off game with more a focus on story for some reason.

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