Third parties are not going to drop support for Xbox One. The cost to do versions of games for the system aren't that high in relation to potential return they can get.
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PS4 sales have surpassed 5.3 million units according to Sony (As of Feb 8)
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Third parties are not going to drop support for Xbox One. The cost to do versions of games for the system aren't that high in relation to potential return they can get.
Noooo way. This isn't the Wii U.
People who own an Xbox One actually buy 3rd party content.
Imperfected
Member
You want to know the truly ridiculous part of all of this?
There were 4.2 million PS4s sold in late December. There are 5.3 million PS4s sold in early February. Think about that. The sales of the consoles didn't actually fall off very much in January, they just weren't so heavily concentrated on North America.
Worldwide, they still moved 1.1 million units in the equivalent of a 'five-week tracking period' January. That's wicked sick-nasty. That's on track to completely mind-blowing results for their first year, and the only real question now is how long they can maintain the momentum. If they can ride it out until things like dropping production costs of DDR5 RAM and economics of scale can allow for them to price drop without a substantial loss of profit margin, this could get pretty insane.
maverick40
Junior Member
Not a chance that is happening and if it starts Microsoft will gladly take out the wallet and start spending money
Who even needs exclusives when the multiplatforms are better every single time? Comparing exclusives is hit or miss, you can't really compare Killzone to Dead Rising 3 for example, but you sure as hell can see the disparity looking at the multiplatform releases.
Its not just that its that the xbox division despite being successful with the 360 in the US and parts of Europe last gen have been put on the defensive internally by a board that don't give 2 shits about what they see as a past pet project that has outgrown its need. The investors have drawn daggers and want to carve out the xbox section out of MS put that together with the uncertainty of a new ceo they wanted to come out of the gate as #1 to show their own people that xbox is worth the investment.
SwiftDeath
Member
There are likely 750K XB1's sitting in retail channels unsold. They have to move those first. Anything is possible
BoboBrazil
Member
I think 3rd parties will continue to support X1, but you won't see bought exclusives like Titanfall anymore. Also PS4 will be the lead platform so 3rd party games will continue to perform worse on it.
razgriz417
Member
What does more shipments matter, if they can't sell the existing ones?
Games take 3 years to make at least, if MS isn't making them by now then its too late already.
They don't have as many studio's as Sony. Best they can hope for is buying some exclusive, but it would cost them a lot since the numbers will soon be 2:1 worldwide.
michaelius
Banned
At this rate PS4 should be above xbox and wiiU put together by end of march 2015.
Yep exactly. And this is while not having enough stock to meet the demand in the countries they have already launched, AND still having other countries to launch in.
The PS3 was in a far worse situation a few months in than the XBONE is and the third party support wasn't hindered for too long. I doubt Microsoft is stupid enough to lose third-party publisher support, but they have definitely lost the support of indie developers and customers.
As much as I despise Microsoft, I can't say the XBONE is gonna Dreamcast.
Should they not announce more first party games given their success?
My worry on PS4 & Xbox One is their sales might be too front-loaded due to the hype and the long wait from last gen.
Considering the gaming industry is shrunk (as per many analysts), their sales trends might have a huge drop when all hardcore gamers get their consoles. The main stream may not pick PS4 or Xbox One anytime soon.
So how high of PS4 and Xbox One LTD can reach is still a big question.
Considering the gaming industry is shrunk (as per many analysts), their sales trends might have a huge drop when all hardcore gamers get their consoles. The main stream may not pick PS4 or Xbox One anytime soon.
So how high of PS4 and Xbox One LTD can reach is still a big question.
dolabla
Member
Holy crap if that did happen! I'd do laps around the neighborhood out of excitement.
Phire Phox
Banned
Not sure if serious. PS3 was doing far worse at this point in its career and it still got plenty third party support.
Glorified G
Member
It won't. These decisions were made years in advanced. GBA was outselling PS3 at one point and it still got the biggest 3rd party support. The most will happen is big pubs publicly pressure for a price drop. Sega & Ubi did this last gen towards Sony
They shipped to "retailers", that's not sell-through, like their slightly earlier 3m press release. They need to sell all the ones they stuffed the channel with.
Edit: Just checked and January 6th was the date of their first press release and end of January was the next. They didn't sell 900 thousand in those three weeks. They barely sold 1/6 of that in their biggest market (NA). They retail channel is literally gagging on X1s.
My guess is his predication is sold, which Microsoft is going to struggle to hit at this rate. The Titanfall bump is going to have to be serious for the existing Xbone stock to get sold through.
iamvin22
Industry Verified
750k?!?! Thats insane. Is it really that bad?
UpsideDownAce
Member
Ugh, the current greeting is so long winded.
"Thank you for calling GameStop in [location] where you can get 50% extra in store credit when you trade in your consoles towards a ps4 or xbox one"
Seriously, I have to take a deep breath before answering the phone.
This would be great for the people who walk in, ask, and then walk out.
But then we wouldn't be able to tell you about the awesome GameStop Exclusive Bundles, only available online! Which are just accessories and games putting the PS4 behind a $500+ paywall.
Neutralfanboy
Banned
Great job by Sony and Microsoft obviously aren't thrilled as I'm sure they expected they would be leading in sales and would never sell less than the PS4 in the U.S. However when you look at the big picture not that many consoles have been sold yet and if MS wants to somehow regain a lead then they need to get the Xbox to $399. As long as it stays $100 more than the competition it will always sell less. Simple economics.
Yeah, I could see Sony easily picking up another million in Japan by March, assuming they can ship that many.
Japan has cooled on home consoles, but I think Sony still has enough of a core following to enjoy some early success, it def sound like the pre orders are strong. Whether they can win over the rest of Japan in long term... no idea.
What do you think will be the regional breakup?
Man he makes me want to dance to this glorious news
That is why I said they cannot rely on 3rd parties any more like they did on Xbox360. Microsoft doesn't have enough studios to make games, but they do have some classic IP. They can ask independent studio to help them to make the classic IP come back like what they did on Killer Instinct.
More exclusive 1st party games are the only left attractive points for gamers to purchase Xbox One right now.
Sony certainly has found a recipe for success with the ps4. High quality, reasonably priced consumer hardware with great marketing and great consumer relationship building.
Honestly I think sony should look to the ps4 as a model for a lot of their struggling hardware areas.
I think a refocus from being the ultimate premium brand with a premium price while the real world tech in the hardware doesn't necessarily correlate to the real world consumer value of your product - as happened with the ps3 early on and most of their current products - toward a more competitive consumer friendly pricing model but still keeping the quality high is where Sony needs to go. I think it could do wonders for their television business if they followed that model for instance.
Honestly I think sony should look to the ps4 as a model for a lot of their struggling hardware areas.
I think a refocus from being the ultimate premium brand with a premium price while the real world tech in the hardware doesn't necessarily correlate to the real world consumer value of your product - as happened with the ps3 early on and most of their current products - toward a more competitive consumer friendly pricing model but still keeping the quality high is where Sony needs to go. I think it could do wonders for their television business if they followed that model for instance.
Fucking Tekken Jag Tournament. Shenmue looks better than everything on PS2. MGS2 is fake.
GT6 should have been a PS4 launch title. GT will push consoles in EU, Japan, South America, India and other territories where racing is huge. GT6 on PS3 this late was such a big waste. Either it should have been used to rescue Vita or Push PS4 ahead.
blackdevil
Member
more like.
they are laughing? why? they could have sold so much more on PS4.
razgriz417
Member
Dragonborn
Member
I'd say it's more along 1 million + unless they shipped 0 consoles in Jan
freefornow
Gold Member
Source?
SenatorBot
Member
With the PS4 and Xbone gap widening, I'm wondering if it'll be viable for publishers to release exclusives because it'll save them port time and money to a larger audience.
I doubt it'll happen with the high costs of game development but it'll be nice to see.
I doubt it'll happen with the high costs of game development but it'll be nice to see.
Hyperactivity
Banned
I'm getting from this that Sony is better off with no "special" partnership of any kind with EA.
Unprecedented and strategic partnerships have already backfired
Given how graphically unimpressive TitanFall is, I don't believe it is a coincidence that the Order is being shown tomorrow... taking the wraps off Infamous, Order, MLB soon, and all look WAY better than anything on the XB1 currently.
All Sony needs now is The Last Guardian, Uncharted, and a SSM game at E3, and we have a TKO from which MS simply cannot recover. As for launching in further territories? MS calls them secondary for a reason - it won't increase their numbers much at all. They've already saturated NA and the UK, and are STILL losing in those territories where the PS4 is supply constrained.
This could be a beating the likes we haven't seen since the PS2.
All Sony needs now is The Last Guardian, Uncharted, and a SSM game at E3, and we have a TKO from which MS simply cannot recover. As for launching in further territories? MS calls them secondary for a reason - it won't increase their numbers much at all. They've already saturated NA and the UK, and are STILL losing in those territories where the PS4 is supply constrained.
This could be a beating the likes we haven't seen since the PS2.
Platinum_D
Member
Well done congratulations to Sony
Dragonborn
Member
MS sold 3 mil. And shipped 3.9 million by the end of Dec.
In Jan, they did 140k in NA and lets be very generous and say they did 140k WW. That's a total of 3.3 million consoles or so, so that would be 600k sitting on shelves. Add to that whatever they shipped in Jan and there might just be a million+ Sitting unsold
That actually makes a lot of sense. Right now they have a huge amount of momentum. They literally could not be doing much better. Their consoles are still disappearing the second they appear on shelves, but that will eventually end. Throw out the news of what's actually coming and it'll basically kickstart their momentum again once it does start to fade.
biosnake20
Member
Time for MS to drop that kinect and drop that price, ASAP.
$349/$379/$399 XBO + Titanfall launching could be the comeback plan that they need.
$349/$379/$399 XBO + Titanfall launching could be the comeback plan that they need.
You're not going to see that unless MS drops out of the industry and Nintendo is the only "competition." What they will do though is actually think before they take a money hat like EA did with Titanfall.
Dragon1893
Member
Really curious to see if the Japanese launch also will surpass expectations.
Anyway, it's great to see such a healthy start for the new consoles.
Anyway, it's great to see such a healthy start for the new consoles.