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Dear Watch_Dogs: please take note. (New Infamous Second Son Screenshots Inside)

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Are those screens real? It looks unreal, the first real next gen game! wow

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bombshell

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Are those screens real? It looks unreal, the first real next gen game! wow

https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/t31/1655456_10203498791089558_1214241031_o.jpg[IMG][/QUOTE]

They are direct PS4 Share button captures from other GAFfers. So they are the real deal, just with a lot of compression.
 

Tak3n

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Just remember you want it to be fun as well...

it is not all just about looks (I appreciate to some people it is) but no point dating a Swedish Supermodel if she is a mute and no fun..

Well the mute part might be a good thing... but you get my point
 

Famassu

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This is such a lame excuse...These InFam screens almost look as good as the reveal footage of WD. That means PS4 is fully capable of at least getting close to 60-70% of the original E3 demo that was run on some beefed up PC. But the latest footage for WD which was supposed to be from PS4, is not even close to 20% in terms of fidelity.
Hey, pulling numbers straight out of your ass. That's always fun!

Watch_Dogs doesn't look THAT much worse. The lighting has taken a hit (but they could still have time to fix that) and it's missing some particle effects, but otherwise it's not that far from the initial reveal.

And no, it's not a lame excuse. They are making Watch_Dogs for PS360 as well, which sets plenty of limitations to how much they can achieve with the PS4 & Xbone version. Some devs have even chosen to abandon the last-gen versions of their games because of how much that would have limited them (i.e. Beyond Good & Evil 2, FFXV).
 

FranXico

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Are those screens real? It looks unreal, the first real next gen game! wow

[Gorgeous screenshot]

When I watched the IGN and SCE promotional gameplay videos, I was amazed by the graphics.

Gameplay-wise, it's pretty much the same old Infamous mechanics, but with new and a bit more varied powers. Which still is fun, of course.
 

Theecliff

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Just remember you want it to be fun as well...

it is not all just about looks (I appreciate to some people it is) but no point dating a Swedish Supermodel if she is a mute and no fun..

Well the mute part might be a good thing... but you get my point
Here's an early impression from the OT:
In my opinion, it's great and I never was that high up on the inFamous games. I enjoyed them, but I felt like something was always lacking, this game addresses all my concerns I used to have. Controlling Delsin is great, graphics look amazing, cutscenes and acting are top notch by video game standards, gameplay wise it's a blast. It's just fun fighting things in this game and I am still on smoke powers only, the more abilities you unlock the more fun the game becomes, you start using more diverse ways to take enemies down.
 

geordiemp

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Just remember you want it to be fun as well...

it is not all just about looks (I appreciate to some people it is) but no point dating a Swedish Supermodel if she is a mute and no fun..

Well the mute part might be a good thing... but you get my point

No I don't get your point.

We want t see how capable next gen open world game can be.

That gives us hope for other genres such as Skyrim or GTA next gen etc....I can only think what Mass effect 4 will be like on Ps4....mmmmm

If the game play is not up your street or preference, its missing the point.

The only people who use gameplay as defence probably think they cant have both on their console....
 

RetroStu

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Its ironic really because Infamous actually looks very similar to Watchdogs orig 2012 reveal, the same art style, the same type of graphics, the same high quality imo.

I'm sure Watchdogs could of managed 2012 level graphics if it had more time.
 
Hey, pulling numbers straight out of your ass. That's always fun!

Watch_Dogs doesn't look THAT much worse. The lighting has taken a hit (but they could still have time to fix that) and it's missing some particle effects, but otherwise it's not that far from the initial reveal.

Please get an eye exam...This thread didn't need to exist if that was the case. There is a reason folks have been upset by the downgrade.
 

Tak3n

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No I don't get your point.

We want t see how capable next gen open world game can be.

That gives us hope for other genres such as Skyrim or GTA next gen etc....I can only think what Mass effect 4 will be like on Ps4....mmmmm

If the game play is not up your street or preference, its missing the point.

The only people who use gameplay as defence probably think they cant have both on their console....


well then you are only deluding yourself if you think 3rd party will get close to 1st party development in terms of looks...

you only have to look at last gen to realise that is simply not attainable... 3rd party devs had 7 years to get close to what Sony et al could do, and never did

I don't see why you think it will be different this gen
 

Vizzeh

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well then you are only deluding yourself if you think 3rd party will get close to 1st party development in terms of looks...

you only have to look at last gen to realise that is simply not attainable... 3rd party devs had 7 years to get close to what Sony et al could do, and never did

I don't see why you think it will be different this gen

There is no fancy smoke and mirrors anymore with the cell processor or special knowledge needed apart from talent, competence and will power to do a specific console justice. Its simple ram/apu with x86-64 pc architecture.

If they code for parity with the X1/Cross Gen, thats the 3rd party studios problem when fans are not happy their version is being slaughtered.

Screens look fantastic btw!!
 

Famassu

Member
When I watched the IGN and SCE promotional gameplay videos, I was amazed by the graphics.

Gameplay-wise, it's pretty much the same old Infamous mechanics, but with new and a bit more varied powers. Which still is fun, of course.
I don't see it that way. The new traversal/movement methods seem to give this whole new dynamic to the gameplay + some early impressions say the enemy variation is much bigger. These are, imho, two very big changes/improvements that somewhat change the feel of the gameplay, enough so that I wouldn't say it's "pretty much the same old inFamous".
 
Dear OP: please take note of how most multiplats look compared to exclusively developed 1st party games. Infamous does look great but I'm not sure what the point is of heckling multiplat developers for not being able to achieve what dedicated, in-house, single platform devs can.

I would think the better metric is how W_D holds up to AC4 at least.

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Not a fair comparison since Watch_Dogs isn't even targeted for this gen let alone be done for a single console. Im sure if ubisoft had made watch dogs ps4 exclusive... it would look like the reveal if not better.

To all the apologists in here using this excuse or some other variant of the "cross-gen" excuse to explain what appears to be an epic graphical bait-and-switch by Ubi...I have one, single question:

Is that excuse supposed to actually make anyone who planned on buying the PS4 or XBone version of Watch Dogs REALLY feel better about the graphical downgrade?

PS4 and XBone owners aren't buying those other versions, most likely...so they rightly should only care about the quality (or lack of quality) of the visuals on those versions, and shouldn't give a rat's ass that Ubisoft CHOSE to make other versions on other platforms. They should care (rightly) that their versions apparently got gimped because if Ubi's business decision. It's not like Ubi is saying, "yeah, we couldn't shine up the new-gen versions enough because we had to make the old-gen versions, so here's a nice discount on the product." They are charging full price, and PS4 and XBone owners now have to decide whether that's a good deal or not, post-graphical downgrade.
 

FranXico

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I don't see it that way. The new traversal/movement methods seem to give this whole new dynamic to the gameplay + some early impressions say the enemy variation is much bigger. These are, imho, two very big changes/improvements that somewhat change the feel of the gameplay, enough so that I wouldn't say it's "pretty much the same old inFamous".

True. Perhaps I was too hasty labeling it as "same old gameplay". The movement improvements actually speed up the gameplay considerably, while it remains familiar enough at its core.
 

d9b

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When I watched the IGN and SCE promotional gameplay videos, I was amazed by the graphics.

Gameplay-wise, it's pretty much the same old Infamous mechanics, but with new and a bit more varied powers. Which still is fun, of course.
Game is called Infamous: Second Son for a reason you know...what were you expecting? FPS?
 
Let it launch first, then talk. Don't make a thread when the game IS NOT EVEN OUT.
We have seen that dev can sprout lies like (insert something that grows fast). Sucker Punch is a company, not your girlfriend.
 
Let it launch first, then talk. Don't make a thread when the game IS NOT EVEN OUT.
We have seen that dev can sprout lies like (insert something that grows fast). Sucker Punch is a company, not your girlfriend.

Uh, the game is out. All these new screens are being taken by GAFers who got the game early, and are taking screenshots with the pS4 "share" button.

EDIT:

Have my copy!

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Excuse the terrible pics; too excited to care.

Try reading the thread next time. There's actually a GAF rule about that.
 

d9b

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Let it launch first, then talk. Don't make a thread when the game IS NOT EVEN OUT.
We have seen that dev can sprout lies like (insert something that grows fast). Sucker Punch is a company, not your girlfriend.
As far as I understand these jpgs are here via magic of PS4 share button by the people who got their game early. What's your point?
 
As far as I understand these jpgs are here via magic of PS4 share button by the people who got their game early. What's your point?

Uh, the game is out. All these new screens are being taken by GAFers who got the game early, and are taking screenshots with the pS4 "share" button.

Ok, please void my earlier point.
Oh and Ubisoft, stop making lies goddammit, if you said something as a fact, make it a fact not a stupid lie.
 

RulkezX

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Said it in other threads ; I always assumed the pre release videos were bullshit due to 20 years of conditioning and shattered expectations. Then I saw the live streams last week and the captures that started to come out and the game is visually incredible.

So yeah , the PS4 (and X1) may be mid tier PC's at their core but this game proves ( to me) that there is going to be a lot to be excited about going forward.
 

blastprocessor

The Amiga Brotherhood
Some of you guys are in for a HUGE surprise next week when you all see MLB The Show on PS4 hardware. Yes Infamous is the best looking PS4 game thus far imho but MLB The Show will "best it" come next week ...mark my words. A close pal of mine shared a few pieces of media tonight and i was blown away.

Nice looking forward to seeing what they can do.
 

orioto

Good Art™
I don't really give a shit about watch_doge but it seems unfair to compare the two games when the Ubi one is (seemingly) doing a looot more stuff in term of AI and things happening in the city.. or not ?

Also it's interesting Infamous is seen there as such a power house cause in the end, it's really clean and the art direction and light are great, but those screens doesn't screams high poly assets nor giant textures :)
 

Famassu

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Please get an eye exam...This thread didn't need to exist if that was the case. There is a reason folks have been upset by the downgrade.
You are saying it's, like, only 20% there. That's just silly hyperbole. If we are pulling numbers straight from our asses, it's more like it's 60-70% there with the development still having at least 1-1,5 months of polishing & improving left.

And again, the game is multiplatform as well as cross-gen. It's a fact that it will put limitations to what they can achieve with even the better hardware and that makes it incredibly silly to compare it to a current-gen exclusive that's for the most powerful console atm. The original Watch_Dogs trailer looked about on par with inFamous Second Son (some things were maybe a bit better, others a bit worse). Even if the game wasn't cross-gen, it being multiplatform and thus for Xbone as well as PS4 would mean they couldn't make it look like Second Son (at least this early into the generation). But the game is also cross-gen. You aren't going to get Second Son level graphics in a cross-gen game.
 

Famassu

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Also it's interesting Infamous is seen there as such a power house cause in the end, it's really clean and the art direction and light are great, but those screens doesn't screams high poly assets nor giant textures :)
Uh.. You're not giving the game's graphics enough credit. It's not just great IQ or lighting (though those are incredible), it's also the huge draw distance, the flawless framerate (I personally haven't seen it drop even once in the vids I've watched), incredible particle effects, the (mostly) great animation, the character models (especially Delsin & enemies, a bit less so the pedestrians), the crazy attention to detail, the insane amount of desctructable shit in the environments etc. and there's plenty of high poly assets and great quality & variety of textures.

And all this in an early-gen OPEN-WORLD game.
 

orioto

Good Art™
Uh.. You're not giving the game's graphics enough credit. It's not just great IQ or lighting (though those are incredible), it's also the huge draw distance, the flawless framerate (I personally haven't seen it drop even once in the vids I've watched), incredible particle effects, the (mostly) great animation, the character models (especially Delsin & enemies, a bit less so the pedestrians), the crazy attention to detail, the insane amount of desctructable shit in the environments etc. and there's plenty of high poly assets and great quality & variety of textures.

And all this in an early-gen OPEN-WORLD game.

Fair enough, but there is also something. I don't know i always felt everything is really clean, not in a good way. It's actually not a realistic heavy texture approach like in Kill Zone or Battlefield 4 for example. It's more clean and plastic looking.
 

Amir0x

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Are those screens real? It looks unreal, the first real next gen game! wow

1655456_10203498791089558_1214241031_o.jpg

i just have to keep reminding myself that this is what an open world game looks like on PS4 only a few months after it has launched. What in sam's green hell are linear PS4 games going to look like a few years into the system's life!?
 

wapplew

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i just have to keep reminding myself that this is what an open world game looks like on PS4 only a few months after it has launched. What in sam's green hell are linear PS4 games going to look like a few years into the system's life!?

Can't wait for the day we come back and say this look like shit.
 

Korezo

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In infamous they should add some missions where you play inside a building or something so the the game can feel less repetitve with more environment variety like batman games. Once I played the first infamous 100% to completion I couldn't even get passed a few missions on the second infamous game. But this game looks amazing and I now have to buy it so I can experience these crazy graphics.
 

mrklaw

MrArseFace
Why did you have to go and do that? I have no particular interest in second son, but that first image...OMG now I want to buy it. You bastard :p
 
Everything I've seen from inFAMOUS so far looks incredible except the HUD. I'm a minimalist kind of guy.

I hope the mission variety is better than in previous games.
 
i just have to keep reminding myself that this is what an open world game looks like on PS4 only a few months after it has launched. What in sam's green hell are linear PS4 games going to look like a few years into the system's life!?

Santa Monica Studios will set the bare when they show GOW 4 made by Cory.
 
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