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[KnockOneOff]

One thing I have learnt about everything no one is expendable

Uncharted will be fine, if it wasn't for me reading this thread I don't think I honestly would have noticed

 

[alr1ght]

Do we have a GAF thread or other article about this? I'm curious.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=775133

 

[reptilescorpio]

gosh you stalkers are scary

Well someone has to get the beans out to us since you don't

 

[Putty]

Mort, Col Rogers left Evo for personal reasons in Feb, he wasn't pushed, he left on his own terms, and certainly wasn't replaced and let go. I know this because he's a friend of mine, so please be sure next time of the accuracy of your information.

 

[LookAtMeGo]

Has people leaving studios and lay offs always been a big deal around here? Is it a normal occurence or is it happening more often lately?

 

[Y2Kev]

Can you really saw GoW Ascension was "disappointing"? It didn't sell 5 million but I bet it was healthily profitable.

 

[Mistouze]

I'm late to the party but Riot games? Ugh.

 

[reptilescorpio]

For you Druckman/Straley super villain loonies out there...

From the Narrative Design Lead at Naughty Dog:

Spoiler

most likely taken completely out of context. stahp

Kurosaki is the real final boss who is taking Hennig's place? Plot twist of the year! Druckman will be salty as fuck!

 

[BlackBuzzard]

How did sony allow them to continue this far?! That sound insane.

It worked for GoW.

 

[Giant Panda]

Incredible. lol

 

[iNvid02]

Perfect lol

 

[Kyoufu]

Mort, Col Rogers left Evo for personal reasons in Feb, he wasn't pushed, he left on his own terms, and certainly wasn't replaced and let go. I know this because he's a friend of mine, so please be sure next time of the accuracy of your information.

Interesting.

 

[Haunted]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=775133

I do remember the episode and reading some of this thread, but was surprised by mortimer's bit about how it sucked and failed the internal QA tests, as I wasn't aware that had come out of the story and thought I missed something.

What I wouldn't give to see that unfinished WIP in action.... maybe we'll get a video on unseen64 in 10 years or so.

 

[xkramz]

i thought being shit on by a pigeon was good luck =[

 

[IncandescentPrecept]

Mort, Col Rogers left Evo for personal reasons in Feb, he wasn't pushed, he left on his own terms, and certainly wasn't replaced and let go. I know this because he's a friend of mine, so please be sure next time of the accuracy of your information.

Is it personal reasons because he couldn't deal with the pressure of not being able to cope with the management of such a big project?

 

[Basch]

At this rate, I'm not even for sure I want to put money down on UC4. Henning was the primary attraction, and I've enjoyed Richmond's work. Naughty Dog and Sony have some explaining to do in order to right this ship.

 

[Vire]

Mort, Col Rogers left Evo for personal reasons in Feb, he wasn't pushed, he left on his own terms, and certainly wasn't replaced and let go. I know this because he's a friend of mine, so please be sure next time of the accuracy of your information.

Mort continues to post Tales From My Ass™ and GAF continues to lap it up. Why I don't know...

Thanks for the clarification.

 

[BurnOutBrighter]

Are you confusing the word innovation with success?

No. You don't create a thriving esports infrastructure with "success".

 

[BlackBuzzard]

Mort continues to post Tales From My Ass™ and GAF continues to lap it up. Why I don't know...

Thanks for the clarification.

Vire continues to hyperbole and thinks the sky is falling down...

 

[IncandescentPrecept]

No. You don't create a thriving esports infrastructure with "success".

Success does not automatically mean innovation is what he means..

 

[RedRedSuit]

Vire continues to hyperbole and thinks the sky is falling down...

Actually he's kind of right. The stuff famousmortimer gives can be good, when it's concrete and he explains (without naming names obviously) where he got it, and how much he trusts it. Even then, it's not exactly 100%.

However, when he makes one of those big posts where he confidently summarizes a bunch of stuff (such as the main one in this thread) -- with no context for where he got the info, or even whether it's just his impression based on vague rumors or actual info he has from somewhere, and then people take it as truth, because he is an "insider" -- that's when I have to get off the train, and so should others. It's irresponsible. He should be more precise and explicit.

In his post here, it is particularly egregious; I can't tell where "his opinion/impression" begins and "actual info he got from insider(s)" ends.

 

[Wynnebeck]

Mort continues to post Tales From My Ass™ and GAF continues to lap it up. Why I don't know...

Thanks for the clarification.

lol That came across as extremely salty sir. Calm down.

 

[ZoddGutts]

Can't say I'm shocked, especially with what happened to Amy Hennig.

 

[Panajev2001a]

half of that is actually true .. its scary me

I am so sorry... If you had to ride the central line... .

 

[Putty]

Is it personal reasons because he couldn't deal with the pressure of not being able to cope with the management of such a big project?

Jesus H.Christ! There are more things to life than video games.

 

[Gestault]

Vire continues to hyperbole and thinks the sky is falling down...

To be fair, Mort saying specifically "Col Rogers [sic] (driveclub) is about failing to deliver" in this situation a claim of factual behind-the-scenes happenings. If Putty is right that Rodgers left specifically for personal reasons, it's reasonable to think of those as being mutually exclusive explanations. Or at least very different characterizations.

 

[dragonbane]

Can you really saw GoW Ascension was "disappointing"? It didn't sell 5 million but I bet it was healthily profitable.

Probably not. Lots of marketing. They probably earned their production budget back though.

 

[FTF]

The weird thing is that they were the two leads on Uncharted. Who are the new directors then? If its Druckman and Straley, what's going on with the other team at ND?

Two teams...one head by Drunkman, the other Straley.

 

[StuBurns]

His name is Rodgers.

 

[Deleted member 17706]

There was probably just a major split in opinion about what the direction of the next Uncharted should be. We'll see how this affects the quality of the final product in due time.

Personally, I was not a fan of Uncharted 3 at all, so I can't say I'm terribly disappointed with a change in director.

 

[TheLostBigBoss]

i thought being shit on by a pigeon was good luck =[

Hahaha, I just saw your thread.

 

[PuppetMaster]

Can you really saw GoW Ascension was "disappointing"? It didn't sell 5 million but I bet it was healthily profitable.

It was disappointing as a game

 

[RedRedSuit]

Can you really saw GoW Ascension was "disappointing"? It didn't sell 5 million but I bet it was healthily profitable.

In that case I believe that I can. It hurts and dilutes the brand. Its critical reception is poor given the series, its sales are relatively weak, and its very presence is unnecessary (the first home console non-remaster in that series that is just a prequel).

 

[Putty]

His name is Rodgers.

Awesome, first name is Colin aswell.

 

[IncandescentPrecept]

Probably not. Lots of marketing. They probably earned their production budget back though.

So, you cannot really say then? It's not like you have any numbers or anything. The only thing we know is that it sold more than 600,000 copies in the US in it's launch month.

 

[DarkLordMalik]

Can you really saw GoW Ascension was "disappointing"? It didn't sell 5 million but I bet it was healthily profitable.

It severely damaged the reputation of the series.

 

[Loudninja]

It severely damaged the reputation of the series.

Based on what again?

 

[DarkLordMalik]

Based on what again?

The critical reception? The lackluster sales? The backlash from fans?

 

[LookAtMeGo]

Based on what again?

I guess sales determine quality these days.

 

[Kyoufu]

The critical reception? The lackluster sales? The backlash from fans?

Everybody knew it was a side/filler game. Ascension hasn't killed or damaged the brand.

Same goes for Gears of War. Judgement did not harm that IP either. Next gen iterations of both should be big sellers.

 

[IncandescentPrecept]

The critical reception? The lackluster sales? The backlash from fans?

Do you know the sales numbers? And what fans? GAF posters or metacritic voters?

 

[Palocca]

It severely damaged the reputation of the series.

Has it really? Franchise fatigue has definitely set in at the time, I admit; I skipped out on Ascension for that reason myself. But I wouldn't be surprised if the reveal of the next GoW was met with fanfare.

 

[FTF]

It severely damaged the reputation of the series.

Hahaha talk about hyperbole...we'll have to see how GOW4 on PS4 does both critically and in sales before being able to say anything like that.

 

[SniperHunter]

hahah flawless

 

[Spiegel]

Everybody knew it was a side/filler game. Ascension hasn't killed or damaged the brand.

Same goes for Gears of War. Judgement did not harm that IP either. Next gen iterations of both should be big sellers.

It certainly wasn't a side game financially speaking. It was developed by a full 100+ team at SSM and took 3 years.

 

[Gestault]

Do you know the sales numbers? And what fans? GAF posters or metacritic voters?

Actually, when Sony released the cumulative franchise sales numbers, we got a decent look into the Ascension sales up to that point. They didn't seem awful to me, but they were definitely soft.

 

[StreetsAhead]

Eh, in my experience, it's never a good thing when directors are leaving mid project. Usually not for the morale of the team, or for the health of the project. Hope Uncharted 4is ok, was looking for it to be my first series experience.

 

[dragonbane]

So, you cannot really say then? It's not like you have any numbers or anything. The only thing we know is that it sold more than 600,000 copies in the US in it's launch month.

It's pretty apparent considering Sony tried to forget about it as fast as possible. No announcements, not even any numbers from the directors as we got with GoW3. Usually means sales were disappointing. It disappeared quickly from the charts as well.
Considering we know the budget is roughly the same as GoW3 I think it's not a stretch to assume they didn't break even if we figure in the marketing costs. Of course I don't have any facts.

 

[EmptySpace]

uc4 post apocalyptic am confirmed.
wouldn't it be funny if that's a real screenshot if uc4? lol.

 

[Fbh]

I have to say I'm starting to get worried.

1 or 2 was to be expect but this is not the forth? Fifth? person leaving?

And it's not some random developers, it's game and creative directors :S