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Imagine how dumb he would be if he could as well
In a sense it makes him the most honest character outside of Xfactor.Edit: Having spiral swords and the OS's he gets due to the marvel engine kind of negate that though
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Imagine how dumb he would be if he could as well
In a sense it makes him the most honest character outside of Xfactor.Edit: Having spiral swords and the OS's he gets due to the marvel engine kind of negate that though
Vergil's normals are so good. Priority, distance, speed, and OS's for days.
Wouldn't matter much anyway... people would still put him in the back for XF3 + DT comebacks. It's really something that impacts him as a point which very few people actually do. It would still be stupid because you could keep out so many characters with just st.H whiff into Judgment Cut all day.Imagine how dumb he would be if he could as well
The Mango Sentinel
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Imagine how dumb he would be if he could as well
Edit: Having spiral swords and the OS's he gets due to the marvel engine kind of negate that though
That edit....I was about to go in, haha.
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
Sounds fine for Marvel
Hahaha imagine how much more honest marvel would be if everyone had that rule set. But yeah Spiral Swords is dumb and the Marvel engine's OS stuff is equally dumb.
Edit: No one plays Marvel for an honest game anyways
The Mango Sentinel
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Sounds fine for Marvel
Hahaha imagine how much more honest marvel would be if everyone had that rule set. But yeah Spiral Swords is dumb and the Marvel engine's OS stuff is equally dumb
I dunno man.....some characters really need that shit. Plus it's a staple of the series....I can't really see it being the same without it.
I think it would just make shitty characters even worse and excellent characters just good.
Nothing changes. VERGIL STILL GOD.
Without resources Vergil is mid tier at best. A character like Wesker can demolish Vergil 1v1 because it then becomes a footsie fight. If Vergil whiffs one st.H or Stinger he dies because most characters move so fast with ground dashes (if Vergil whiffs st.H/Stinger against Wesker he would be able to wave dash in, tea bag and then start his full combo). While Vergil can easily whiff punish other characters, he has to make a solid read or punish where as other characters can play more ham. This is why the percentage of resourceless Vergil wins are low and you can immediately tell a bad Vergil from a good one based on how they play in this situation.
That said he is rarely without meter, assists and XF in a match... all of which make him a huge threat. Vergil is a character who fully exploits the MVC3 engine all the way from the OSs, to the high damage, to the meter gain, XF, the buff stacking glitch, hit stop glitches, weird ass hit spheres, plink options, a hyper that crosses up randomly due to engine bug, loopable hyper due to properties on moves. About the only thing he doesn't exploit is TAC.
That said he is rarely without meter, assists and XF in a match... all of which make him a huge threat. Vergil is a character who fully exploits the MVC3 engine all the way from the OSs, to the high damage, to the meter gain, XF, the buff stacking glitch, hit stop glitches, weird ass hit spheres, plink options, a hyper that crosses up randomly due to engine bug, loopable hyper due to properties on moves. About the only thing he doesn't exploit is TAC.
A Pretty Panda
fuckin' called it, man
I think Phoenix Wright would be even worse, assuming you couldn't cancel out of normals until the whole animation is done
What team do you play mango?
That's actually in response to LK's "ease of use" tier list he made a bit after the actual tier list: https://twitter.com/LordKnightBB/status/465698796974792705
These are silly but kinda fun.
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Looks about right, Valk's difficulty of use is why I didn't really have much issues with him being dominant as silly as that may seem.
Though I don't think Haku and Mu are as easy to learn as Ragna. Mu's gameplan is fairly simple but you have to learn quite a bit about moving about the stage vs every match up to keep perfect distances or she can get blown up pretty hard. Not as hard as learning that with Nu but still not braindead
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Yup, because if honestly a vanilla ass character is the best or just as good as a super complex character that takes a ton of effort to play why waste time to learn them. Though I dont think easy to use characters should be bad maybe 5% worse at the most.
Easy characters should win by being able to out play the opponent with smart game basics.
Hard to learn characters should be able to beat the opponent by out maneuvering or overwhelming
Edit: DahBomb you already seen two examples I've made before in private that show this line of thinking from me
IE artificial game balancing. Lets call it what it is.
Shouta
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Still better than LK's in either case. =P
Every week, a new FGC-GAF member steps up to the plate in an attempt to have us exiled into community.
The heroes always triumph in the end though!
Sorta? I don't think it's a Canada-specific thing, but it's like an academic resume.
It's the best Kirby game.
Agreed. This is a fun day for BBCP though, patch coming out tonight and all.
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The Mango Sentinel
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It really really really depends on a lot of variables. I play a ton of teams but if I have to go in blind then it's probably Chris/Dante/Strider. I do play Zero/Vergil/Dante if I want to turn my brain off for a while during a tournament.
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You could on block just not off a wiff. So I don't think he would be THAT much worse. He's gonna still suck no matter what though.
Magna_Mixalis
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Maybe for Japan; For NA it's Wednesday night/Thursday morning, PST.
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Oh yeah you right. I got my days mixed up!
The Mango Sentinel
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I haven't been on tym for a long time since I haven't played Injustice seriously in about 8 months. What's going on with Martian Manhunter? My brother still plays it hardcore and mentioned some shit about him a few days ago.
Terribly. My body is trying to kill me and there is too much work to be done.
I got that new Game of Thrones to watch though. So at least there's that.
Professor Beef
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People think he's dabess
Where I am too. If you're in SE Michigan supposedly there was a funnel cloud sighted, but no tornado. Most of the warnings have expired now.
To stay on topic: Was this linked yet? SweetJohnnyCage's farewell message.
The Mango Sentinel
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Hopefully he's Kokonoe broken. <3 Martian Manhunter
Nah. He's really good, and has plenty of nastiness, but appears beatable even at top level.
ipitydatfu
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The Mango Sentinel
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Goddamn. Still playing with a Dreamcast controller?
ViewtifulJC
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The Mango Sentinel
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Storm for secret top tier in umvc3
Sacrifice your hand = 1.5 million damage on Ice Storm.
Well, looks like SweetJohnnyCage is going west too: http://ecthrowdown.com/farewell-from-sjc/
CountBlack
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Hot Coldman
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sixteen-bit
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Lol who made this?
Hot Coldman
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No idea, I found it on GAF ages ago, haha.
Izayoi is harder to learn than Litchi?