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[Nibel]

Can we please stop posting and clicking those articles? Nintendo fans need to stop to react to everything

 

[MagiusNecros]

"Journalism" at its best.
Can we ban all major news sites for being click bait pieces of shit?

Personally any news article that isn't factual information shouldn't be mentioned. If there is nothing to really talk about you don't write an article that day. Simple as that.

 

[rokero]

Can we please stop posting and clicking those articles? Nintendo fans need to stop to react to everything

I don't even go to any major news site I get all my info from gaf now they're not getting my clicks

 

[Chindogg]

So not even a week after Iwata firmly claims he will NOT kill the Wii U to not disappoint the fans who actually bought it, Polygon has this to say:



There's even a "console gaming is dead" proclaim stuck in there... after the PS4 and Xbox One sold 7 Million and 5 Million respectively. In less than 6 months.

It's Ben Kuchera, just ignore him.

 

[Nibel]

I don't even go to any major news site I get all my info from gaf now they're not getting my clicks

I think this is wrong as well; you shouldn't punish "good" websites with capable journalists just because there are some black sheeps

Polygon has been discussed a lot and we know what kind of people write their stuff on there - there dozens of other websites that might appeal to you a lot more

Eurogamer has always splendid articles and good news coverage, Kotaku does good news coverage for the most part and there are a few others I didn't mention that do a good job

And also: I'm not saying that all of Polygon is bad, some of their writers are pretty good - but Ben Kuchera articles don't need to be read by anyone

 

[Mihael Mello Keehl]

I think this is wrong as well; you shouldn't punish "good" websites with capable journalists just because there are some black sheeps

Polygon has been discussed a lot and we know what kind of people write their stuff on there - there dozens of other websites that might appeal to you a lot more

Eurogamer has always splendid articles and good news coverage, Kotaku does good news coverage for the most part and there are a few others I didn't mention that do a good job

And also: I'm not saying that all of Polygon is bad, some of their writers are pretty good - but Ben Kuchera articles don't need to be read by anyone

To be fair theres just no real use to go. Its not punishment if you legit have no reason to go or dont feel like it.

 

[RiggyRob]

I think this is wrong as well; you shouldn't punish "good" websites with capable journalists just because there are some black sheeps

Polygon has been discussed a lot and we know what kind of people write their stuff on there - there dozens of other websites that might appeal to you a lot more

Eurogamer has always splendid articles and good news coverage, Kotaku does good news coverage for the most part and there are a few others I didn't mention that do a good job

And also: I'm not saying that all of Polygon is bad, some of their writers are pretty good - but Ben Kuchera articles don't need to be read by anyone

I know that I don't go to gaming news sites because GAF acts as a filter and is pretty much the quickest place to hear about any news thanks to all the people with subscriptions, Twitter updates, living in different time zones etc, not sure how other people feel about it though.

 

[Riki]

Punish spoiled journalists that get free kick backs to judge games from publishers?
Yeah they're really hurting.

 

[Nibel]

Punish spoiled journalists that free kick backs to judge games from publishers?
Yeah they're really hurting.

Not every journalist is 'spoiled' or bad

Besides, you guys say "I go to GAF for my news": a lot of news come from these websites, from GiantBomb to Kotaku. Yes, we have our insiders and yes, most websites take stuff from GAF and write it as news, but a) as long as they say what the source website is I see no problem and b) many rumors are being leaked by major websites

I hate bad click-baiting journalism just like the next guy, but man I love good journalism that deserves all the clicks

 

[rokero]

To be fair theres just no real use to go. Its not punishment if you legit have no reason to go or dont feel like it.

This

 

[Riki]

Not every journalist is 'spoiled' or bad

Besides, you guys say "I go to GAF for my news": a lot of news come from these websites, from GiantBomb to Kotaku. Yes, we have our insiders and yes, most websites take stuff from GAF and write it as news, but a) as long as they say what the source website is I see no problem and b) many rumors are being leaked by major websites

I hate bad click-baiting journalism just like the next guy, but man I love good journalism that deserves all the clicks

MamaRobotnick has done more investigative journalsim on GAF than all these major sites combined.
There might be a few good eggs on them, but they are so far out weighed by the pure crap that is spewed just to make money that it's insane.
It's like our industry has nothing but Fox News as a source.

 

[Nibel]

I see it's no use trying to convince you that not everything gaming journalism does is bad or money-orientated

 

[Mihael Mello Keehl]

Not every journalist is 'spoiled' or bad

Besides, you guys say "I go to GAF for my news": a lot of news come from these websites, from GiantBomb to Kotaku. Yes, we have our insiders and yes, most websites take stuff from GAF and write it as news, but a) as long as they say what the source website is I see no problem and b) many rumors are being leaked by major websites

I hate bad click-baiting journalism just like the next guy, but man I love good journalism that deserves all the clicks

Oh im not saying I dont click on the links..like wtf I click on shit all day. What I dont do is wake up and go to polygon.com, ign.com looking for new news.. if theres a link in some thread and i feel like clicking it to get a better understanding of an article then I go to it. If not it just sit there.. Whats a click to a mothafucka like me could you please remind me?

Spoiler

lol

 

[Smiles and Cries]

ok who are we mad at now?

what did they do?

 

[rokero]

I rather go to smaller independent sites than big corporate ones like ign were they blatantly do PR for the highest bidder

 

[Sendou]

Bad doesn't take away from the good. That makes no sense. The way this world works is that subjectively speaking the bad will always outweight the good. It's no different with video games for example. "All video game journalism is bad" has to be the worst circlejerk I've had displeasure of witnessing on this site.

 

[Wurliwurm]

My own Hype-Spaceship.

 

[Sadist]

The thing is... Nintendo can't expect a special treatment like that if they have a platform with an install base of 6 million give or take. Yeah there was also Wii and I agree there was many lost chances on that platform.

I recommend that everyone reads this good post by Amir0x on this subject.

Let me rephrase that; diversify their output in general (so including Xbox and PlayStation).

But that's a can of worms we'd rather not touch.

 

[Sendou]

My own Hype-Spaceship.

Looks like your hype-spaceship is banned. Try uploading it to Abload or Imgur or something like that.

Let me rephrase that; diversify their output in general (so including Xbox and PlayStation).

But that's a can of worms we'd rather not touch.

Well I misunderstood. It's easy to agree with that. Seems like every big publisher tries to go for the same market. Sometimes even with two mega-big IP's like Activision this fall with Destiny and Call of Duty.

 

[DaBoss]

Oh my. Please do more of these until E3! We need that hype.

"I need GIFs/WebMs to get hyped for E3."

Spoiler

hehehe

I see it's no use trying to convince you that not everything gaming journalism does is bad or money-orientated

That's how generalizations work.

 

[TheSlySoul]

I rather go to smaller independent sites than big corporate ones like ign were they blatantly do PR for the highest bidder

I think the only game website I can take at face value is GamesRadar. Most other ones seem to be driven by ad revenue.
I have zero clue about how Nintendo can turn around Wii U. Most of the top selling games of 2013 were on Wii U. I guess perhaps give people a reason to buy the Wii U?

 

[Wurliwurm]

So, here is my non banned Hype Spaceship. Inside the here are 2 bedrooms, a bar and a ktichen with living room.

 

[MCN]

I get all my gaming news through the GAF-filter.

 

[BY2K]

Oh dear God.

 

[Riki]

So, here is my non banned Hype Spaceship. Inside the here are 2 bedrooms, a bar and a ktichen with living room.

That is beautifully horrifying.

 

[TheSlySoul]

So, here is my non banned Hype Spaceship. Inside the here are 2 bedrooms, a bar and a ktichen with living room.

Reggie ship became brain-dead after using the Master Sword to pick his nose and poking the brain.

 

[Usobuko]

Is it already confirm that the new IP Miyamoto is working on is something Nintendo NFC project? Or am I totally wrong on this assumption?

 

[Riki]

Is it already confirm that the new IP Miyamoto is working on is something Nintendo NFC project?

Nothing about what Miyamoto is working on is confirmed, really.

 

[chaosblade]

Is it already confirm that the new IP Miyamoto is working on is something Nintendo NFC project? Or am I totally wrong on this assumption?

The "Miyamoto game" is supposed to be something that makes heavy use of gamepad. May or may not be one of the NFC projects.

 

[Usobuko]

Nothing about what Miyamotk is working on is confirmed, really.

Good, then I can expect a new game from him.

 

[Wurliwurm]

There is no place for a brain in there. the inside of his head is filled with a wurliwurm pilot and meachanics and some rooms...

 

[Benzychenz]

Is it already confirm that the new IP Miyamoto is working on is something Nintendo NFC project? Or am I totally wrong on this assumption?

I don't think we've heard anything regarding Miyamoto's game, though I think it being an NFC game is a safe assumption.

 

[rokero]

So, here is my non banned Hype Spaceship. Inside the here are 2 bedrooms, a bar and a ktichen with living room.

Reggie's hair is so puffy

 

[Mihael Mello Keehl]

Thats not the fils a mech

 

[dampflokfreund]

So, here is my non banned Hype Spaceship. Inside the here are 2 bedrooms, a bar and a ktichen with living room.

It's... beautiful... I think this might be the safest space ship in the world.

Spoiler

Schön dich hier auch zu sehen Wurli

 

[BY2K]

It's the Reggie-satellite!

 

[Sadist]

Man, it blows not having any photoshop skills.

I would edit the Fils-a-mech with a jacket and hairdo consisting of GAF members

 

[Wurliwurm]

It's... beautiful... I think this might be the safest space ship in the world.

Spoiler

Schön dich hier auch zu sehen Wurli

Thanks, maybe not the safest but the weirdest...

Spoiler

Ja ab und an treib ich mich hier auch rum. ^^

 

[rokero]

Man, it blows not having any photoshop skills.



I would edit the Fils-a-mech with a jacket and hairdo consisting of GAF members

Yesss I like this someone do it

 

[Mihael Mello Keehl]

It's... beautiful... I think this might be the safest space ship in the world.

Spoiler

Schön dich hier auch zu sehen Wurli

Thanks, maybe not the safest but the weirdest...

Spoiler

Ja ab und an treib ich mich hier auch rum. ^^

Definantely not the safest, probably weird

Spoiler

Wtf are yall sayin..?

 

[Wrestlemania]

Not every journalist is 'spoiled' or bad

 

[Shikamaru Ninja]

Is it already confirm that the new IP Miyamoto is working on is something Nintendo NFC project? Or am I totally wrong on this assumption?

The quote literally reads like this; Miyamoto's division of 1000 developers are working on a few projects that will demonstrate use of the GamePad and they will show at E3. Some are closer to completion than others.

The NFC projects we are not sure if they are related to one or a few of the above. We also don't know if its an internal division or an outside Nintendo funded company making most of the NFC stuff.

 

[Effect]

So not even a week after Iwata firmly claims he will NOT kill the Wii U to not disappoint the fans who actually bought it, Polygon has this to say:



There's even a "console gaming is dead" proclaim stuck in there... after the PS4 and Xbox One sold 7 Million and 5 Million respectively. In less than 6 months.

Linking to them and even acknowledging the articles is what they want. Best not to give the them the attention.

Not every journalist is 'spoiled' or bad

I agree. It is however possible to determine which ones are and who should be ignored at all cost. Ben Kuchera is near the top of that list.

 

[Some Nobody]

Without even looking I knew that came from tumblr. *sigh*

Anyway, that Koji quote is just him being excited about possible announcements at E3. Unless I'm misreading, the second bit specifically says he won't have anything to do with them.

 

[rokero]

The quote literally reads like this; Miyamoto's division of 1000 developers are working on a few projects that will demonstrate use of the GamePad and they will show at E3. Some are closer to completion than others.

The NFC projects we are not sure if they are related to one or a few of the above. We also don't know if its an internal division or an outside Nintendo funded company making most of the NFC stuff.

1000 developers this makes new wonder what is the biggest game Nintendo has made developer wise not counting Smash Bros which had . A lot of outside people working on it

 

[The_Lump]

I know this was probably posted ironically, but I hate this meme. It completely obliterates any discussion and reasoning and successfully promotes rash generalisation. It's the equivalent of a playground bully shouting louder than the other kid so he/she can't defend themselves.

What Nibel is saying is true. Not all journalists are corrupt and not all websites are gutter-press level tabloid click bait mongers. A lot are, sure. But just learn to weed the bad ones out instead of generalising.

 

[StreetsAhead]

1000 developers this makes new wonder what is the biggest game Nintendo has made developer wise not counting Smash Bros which had . A lot of outside people working on it

It's probably Mario Kart 8 if we're talking internal team only.

 

[Some Nobody]

I know this was probably posted ironically, but I hate this meme. It completely obliterates any discussion and reasoning and successfully promotes rash generalisation. It's the equivalent of a playground bully shouting louder than the other kid so he/she can't defend themselves.

What Nibel is saying is true. Not all journalists are corrupt and not all websites are gutter-press level tabloid click bait mongers. A lot are, sure. But just learn to weed the bad ones out instead of generalising.

Well, that's the idea. How else can you continue your pointless echo chamber of "discussion"?

 

[rokero]

It's probably Mario Kart 8 if we're talking internal team only.

Do you know the number ?

 

[StreetsAhead]

Do you know the number ?

Iirc, it was around 160 if you don't count localization teams or special thanks.