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The Order: 1886 screenshots

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JaseC

gave away the keys to the kingdom.
It stretches along the whole frame. Look at the guy's ear.

Ah, good pick-up.

UC1 was a cover based shooter at E3'06, Gears might have impacted the design, but it was already a action heavy third person shooter.

And Gears was unveiled at E3 2005, ultimately walking away with a ton of "awards". Perhaps the change to a TPS occurred sooner (it's impossible to ascertain a less vague time frame from the interview) but I don't think it can be denied that Uncharted was shaped in response to Gears -- Uncharted released some ~18 months after it was first shown.
 

Stampy

Member
From the other thread.

the older pic looks more game like and sparkly clean. But the newer one has better atmosphere, grity and mysterious vibe... It's not a downgraded, they are both different, but I like the newer version more.
 

Salex_

Member
It won't. No MP, no co op in campaign. Seems completely bizarre to me but I guess it's because we've only seen the Gears type shooting gameplay as opposed to the investigation stuff.
They really should have showed the crime investigation/ exploration gameplay. Showing the basic mechanics of a TPS even if the setting, characters, and graphics are great won't leave good first impressions for a new IP in a new generation.

The gameplay hook is extremely important.
 

Sn4ke_911

If I ever post something in Japanese which I don't understand, please BAN me.
Lol OP, so lazy. Only posting 2 out of 6 pics? why? you want us to click on a polygon link for no reason? there isn't even an article, it's just the screens.

also i don't think those pics are direct feed, more like screencaps.
 

Cuyejo

Member
Lol OP, so lazy. Only posting 2 out of 6 pics? why? you want us to click on a polygon link for no reason? there isn't even an article, it's just the screens.

also i don't think those pics are direct feed, more like screencaps.

Here are them on Abload:

http://abload.de/img/to1886_wch_tracks_23_eougc.jpg
http://abload.de/img/to1886_wch_square_09_6xuwm.jpg
http://abload.de/img/to1886_wch_square_05_qhuf2.jpg
http://abload.de/img/to1886_wch_square_01_tguqz.jpg
http://abload.de/img/to1886_wch_alley_07_2k2une.jpg
http://abload.de/img/to1886_e3_2014_floordhjugj.jpg
 
the older pic looks more game like and sparkly clean. But the newer one has better atmosphere, grity and mysterious vibe... It's not a downgraded, they are both different, but I like the newer version more.

Dunno, looks like a downgrade to me. The whole thing about the infiltration uniforms seems like they couldn't do that amount of detail in action scenes. I don't think anyone looked at the uniforms initially and thought they are over the top. They looked awesome.
 

StuBurns

Banned
And Gears was unveiled at E3 2005, ultimately walking away with a ton of "awards". Perhaps the change to a TPS occurred sooner but I don't think it can be denied that Uncharted was shaped in response to Gears.
I find it hard to believe Sony would have forced that change, just because Gears wasn't proven at all. Certainly they could see it, decide that's a better approach and clone it, but the idea it was 'counter programming' or whatever seems unlikely. Gears became a huge deal, but I doubt Sony would have been so confident about that so early that they'd push that on ND. It seemed very much to be taking from Tomb Raider, which already had a proven record of big sales numbers.
That was never a thing, it's 1080p with a 2.40:1 aspect ratio.
He's right, it is 1920x800.
 

KaiserBecks

Member
Denied. We don't need multiplayer for everything.

Nobody's talking about "needing" it. But I want it when it's good. Gears had a surprisingly fun multiplayer, so did "The Last of Us" (at least that's what I've heard). I don't get why one should automatically dismiss the potential of a MP mode.
 
Dunno, looks like a downgrade to me. The whole thing about the infiltration uniforms seems like they couldn't do that amount of detail in action scenes. I don't think anyone looked at the uniforms initially and thought they are over the top. They looked awesome.

They really did look awesome and they're surely less complex now. Shame. Screens still look great though.
 

bombshell

Member
Dunno, looks like a downgrade to me. The whole thing about the infiltration uniforms seems like they couldn't do that amount of detail in action scenes. I don't think anyone looked at the uniforms initially and thought they are over the top. They looked awesome.

Or it was simply because they hadn't done other uniforms at that time. I don't know how anyone could even think that those minor extra bling on the uniforms would make or break the performance of the game.
 

JaseC

gave away the keys to the kingdom.
I find it hard to believe Sony would have forced that change, just because Gears wasn't proven at all. Certainly they could see it, decide that's a better approach and clone it, but the idea it was 'counter programming' or whatever seems unlikely. Gears became a huge deal, but I doubt Sony would have been so confident about that so early that they'd push that on ND. It seemed very much to be taking from Tomb Raider, which already had a proven record of big sales numbers.

He's right, it is 1920x800.

Well, the way I see it, the (former) employee's comment that what we now know as Uncharted was changed to a TPS due to the success of "gritty shooters" on the X360 doesn't exactly leave a lot of candidates. I think he was just being somewhat diplomatic and didn't want to name names. You're right that Gears was an unknown quantity until release, however the game's strong pre-release showing surely would have instilled a pang of me-tooism within Sony higher-ups as the only other vaguely comparable franchise SCE would've had cooking at the time is Resistance.

Edit: All that being said I suppose the only people who know for sure are those that were there. In hindsight I shouldn't have been so definitive with my earlier post.
 

Nozem

Member
Looks pretty great. If the gameplay received the same amount of care as the graphics, then this game will be fantastic.

I'm still not totally convinced though. Looking forward to more footage.
 
Or it was simply because they hadn't done other uniforms at that time. I don't know how anyone could even think that those minor extra bling on the uniforms would make or break the performance of the game.

It's not just the bling though. The whole thing looks less detailed.
 

StuBurns

Banned
Well, the way I see it, the (former) employee's comment that what we now know as Uncharted was changed to a TPS due to the success of "gritty shooters" on the X360 doesn't exactly leave a lot of candidates. I think he was just being somewhat diplomatic and didn't want to name names. You're right that Gears was an unknown quantity until release, however the game's strong pre-release showing surely would have instilled a pang of me-tooism within Sony higher-ups as the only other vaguely comparable franchise SCE would've had cooking at the time is Resistance.
I think Sony as a whole wanted more adult games versus the previous generation for sure, but this:
The demographic was older and gritty shooters were really dominating
I don't think means Gears, or even the 360, because it was too early to say Gears dominated, it was still years away from shipping. One of 2004's biggest hits was HL2, a move to a much more oppressive and nasty experience, GTA:SA had just been the biggest selling game ever, Riddick received wide acclaim. The industry was already moving in the darker thematic direction.

I have no doubt Gears shaped Uncharted, it certainly did, but that quote doesn't make sense in the idea Gears 'dominated' two years before it came out.
 

StuBurns

Banned
I am betting the majority of people would prefer this over the black bars. I know I would. BF4 looks fine on PS4.
The game has 4xMSAA, they have the bandwidth for 1920x1080 with some AA, they wouldn't go to 900p to provide a full screen option.
 

JaseC

gave away the keys to the kingdom.
I think Sony as a whole wanted more adult games versus the previous generation for sure, but this:

I don't think means Gears, or even the 360, because it was too early to say Gears dominated, it was still years away from shipping. 2004's biggest hit was HL2, a move to a much more oppressive and nasty experience, GTA:SA had just been the biggest selling game ever, Riddick received wide acclaim. The industry was already moving in the darker thematic direction.

I have no doubt Gears shaped Uncharted, it certainly did, but that quote doesn't make sense in the idea Gears 'dominated' two years before it came out.

That's a good point. As I just ninja-edited into my previous post there's no way to be sure either way and I shouldn't have been so affirmative with my earlier post.
 

~~Hasan~~

Junior Member
i find this generation really bad when it comes to pics and videos. i need direct feed high quality stuff.

with that being said, Sony is really pushing the PS4 hardware to make it very clear its way more powerful than the other consoles in the market.

this and infamous are just stunningly beautiful. in fact i do not own single player games at all but i am already keeping infamous just for the amazing visual.
 
Nobody's talking about "needing" it. But I want it when it's good. Gears had a surprisingly fun multiplayer, so did "The Last of Us" (at least that's what I've heard). I don't get why one should automatically dismiss the potential of a MP mode.
It's RAD's first console game (and first next gen and new ip); I was disappointed too but I'll trust their reasons for not doing it. If the game does well then perhaps a sequel will feature MP (just like the Uncharted series) but until then I'll be happy with only SP.
 

Spineker

Banned
The game has 4xMSAA, they have the bandwidth for 1920x1080 with some AA, they wouldn't go to 900p to provide a full screen option.

Are the black bars really worth 4xMSAA though? A crisp image is great but those bars are way more distracting than jaggies that you may or may not notice in the heat of action.
 

Ricky_R

Member
Wonder if we'll be able to use the ceremonial uniforms enough since they said the game is about 80% shooter and I presume they will wear the infiltration one for the shooting segments. Unless a good chunk of the shooting takes place just before, in the middle of, or soon after ceremonies. ;)

I don't mind those infiltration uniforms, but RAD already spoiled me with those cool ceremonial ones and i want to be able to wear it as much as possible.
 
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