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NPD Sales Results for May 2014 [Up1: Wii U Hardware]
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ethomaz
Banned
Only retail... no digital.
no, retail only. It's written in the first post guys.
SwiftDeath
Member
It's retail sales only for NPD so boxed copies. Digital copies which make up the majority of PC sales aren't counted and thus NPD isn't a good means to measure PC sales of games
It's embarrassing to even have to compare it to the early days of the 360. The 360 didn;t pick up pace for a while and came off the back of a console which sold around 22/23 million worldwide. Xbox is now a huge, established brand and the 360 was one of the highest selling consoles in the history of the country. XB1 should be absolutely wiping the floor with the 360.
Not at 60K sales for an entire month when one of their best selling software titles released.
I don't know, Sony recently hiked it's prices in Canada where the PS4 is now at $449 and the kinectless Xbox One is at $399.
Then, you have the Master Chief Collection out soon which will move consoles. I think th gap will actually narrow quite a bit this year, at least in North America.
prag16
Banned
With PS4 beating the xbone for every multiplat this month (along with The Show charting high), definitely seems like a possibility.
What is there to hint at? Nobody (NOBODY) is going to say "2nd place", "3rd place", etc. There isn't much to say beyond "we're doing better than we were with the 360" even if they're just one unit behind the PS4 (they're not). People are reading waaaaaay too much into that.
Zero. You always start at zero and go from there. Microsoft knew that a Kinectless sku and lower price would be toxic this month. They are treating this as the Xbox One relaunch.
Relaxed Muscle
Member
PS3 had a very clear and identifiable problem: Price.
Yeah, it had other problems, but that was precisely the main one. The console was still attractive and resolving that, along better software after the awful first months, helped a lot.
Wii U problem, is a problem beyond price and software. It also has a very big problem that PS3 didn't have: third party support is non-existent, even during the darker days of PS3, third parties were still on board.
The situation is not comparable at all. Wii U is a very dire situation even after launching most of the bigger Nintendo IP's. Also Nintendo is basically alone, so maintaining the momentum is quite hard, and they clearly aren't doing a proper job.
Thanks guys. I was wondering that. Seems like with digital sales counted, PC could easily be jostling for first in a lot of areas of software sales. I don't even really know anyone who still buys PC retail releases.
Zekra Dezivad
Member
Let me hear the spin.
wow...tht's a spin
The last time I was told a 10 year old game was going to move hardware, it was Wind Waker.
Old game collections are neat, but they aren't system sellers.
7DollarHagane
Banned
No, it was supply issues. Launch was a total sellout, then when Oblivion, Fight Night, GRAW, and Dead or Alive 4 all hit that spring the demand was off the charts. I worked retail at that time and people were always trying to get units. It wasn't until august or so that it really became easy to find 360s at retail.
They were selling what they were sending to stores for a good long time.
ZSaberLink
Media Create Maven
Ah thanks for finding that...
"In the two weeks prior to the launch, versus what we've seen now following the launch, we're selling at a daily rate four times higher than where we were before."
So that would mean the daily sales b/w 5/30 to E3 (let's say 6/12?) were 4 times the amount of the daily sales from 5/17-5/29 right?
MK was only out a few days, so maybe June will be a little better.
Taekwonmaster
Member
Sorry, I missed a lot of the tread, but aren´t the Wii U sales like 110k on the US on May?
Is the 60k figure an official number or is based on an unnoficial calculation?
Is the 60k figure an official number or is based on an unnoficial calculation?
mario kart 8 was out for a total of two days for the entire month.
I know, I was just writing it down like this to point the obvious confusion. It was clarified meanwhile, he thought I was talking about 400% increase (so 5x) and I wasn't.
Anyhow I'm more curious what this 4x means in units sold.
So you already know that Wii u sold 60k in June? Cool.
I bet that if we go back to 2007 threads we can find almost the same comment about the PS3.
7DollarHagane
Banned
Honestly, I can't imagine Canada or the Master Chief Collection really moving the needle. I'd imagine most people hyped about the MCC already have an Xbone. I can't picture a casual consumer running out to pick up a $400 device for a collection of games they already own.
Rebel Leader
THE POWER OF BUTTERSCOTCH BOTTOMS
They couldn't with titanfall sale so I doubt they will top june. But we'll see
While I'm quite excited for the Halo collection... I just don't see it.
Destiny marketed in eyes of consumer as a ps4 exclusive with a huge marketing budget, disagrees .
sturgboski
Member
See that right there is the quote they should have went with. I could get behind that bravado.
BananaSprinkles
Banned
If they lose next month, Im not sure what they are going to do. They can't drop the price again. It would look terrible for them. Its more than a year away before their real system seller arrives. Halo 5. And the next one is Gears 4 which would arrive in 2016 or 2017.
I think it's possible. Like I guessed earlier, I think they would only stop giving NPD PR if there was nothing left positive to say which means 1) hardware is outsold on a "console family" basis; and 2) software is also outsold.
So I think it's possible that for this month 360+Xbone was also outsold by PS3+PS4 or what is more likely outsold by PS4 alone.
GribbleGrunger
Dreams in Digital
RROD confirmed?
Ah I see then. Never mind then. Confusion all around!
Hopefully it means good sales for Wii U. Got several family members asking about the Wii U for the first time with Mario Kart. A couple of them have asked me to tell them the next time there's a good deal on so they can get it
When we consider that MK8 was released at May 30, Wii U's 80%+ increase could be good sign for them, but at least, not many consumer bought wii u prior to prepare to mario kart 8.
In Wii U's current situation, 80%+ increase isn't strong. They should be about at least 160%+ increase.
In Wii U's current situation, 80%+ increase isn't strong. They should be about at least 160%+ increase.
wowLet me hear the spin.
Still catching up on the thread (on page 7/13), but was the issue with Wii U being up 90% YOY YTD ever straightened out? That works out to a crazy May for Wii U, and despite the real Wii U number being shockingly poor, that 90% YOY YTD increase would be a different order of crazy!
Are you doubting the power of Pushmo?
More seriously, do they need *new* titles to do that, or would strategic promotion of old titles be sufficient? I think Pikmin 3, Wonderful 101, Super Mario 3D World would be *excellent* pickups for new buyers who joined the system with Mario Kart - the problem is *educating* them of that fact?
NullPointer
Member
I'm on my third Xbone already. The first one died overnight with a smoking power supply and the second just randomly shut itself off for no reason after two weeks of regular use and never turned back on.
The current one has being going fine for a little over a month. *knocks on wood*
Karsticles
Member
Man. When was the last time we had an NPD with so little information this far after its release?
100% serious? I had no idea this was an issue.
At the same time though, the 360 had a whole year to itself without any tight competition.
There's a whole lot of different factors in terms of comparing the two and agree that a straight up number comparison don't show the whole picture.