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[FZZ]

Not at 60K sales for an entire month when one of their best selling software titles released.

Which only includes two days in the tracking period. And Reggie has even gone on to say sales increased 4x the following week which will be seen in June's NPD.

The selective reading by some posters in this thread is amazing.

 

[AppleMIX]

Question:
Do the $200 "refurbished" units sold by Nintendo directly contribute to these sales numbers?

I don't believe so.

 

[ShineALight]

Not at 60K sales for an entire month when one of their best selling software titles released.

Not that I'm deluded enough to believe that Wii U is in anything other than an unenviable position, but this almost reads like that "best-selling software" was available for more than two days within said month.

Even ~100k would be a surprising jump for June, but I still feel that it's important to consider that the full effects of MK8's launch aren't felt in this single NPD.

Please no one take this to mean that I believe that MK8 is going to "save" the Wii U or heralds a massive turn-around for the system, only that it due to the timing its release, two months of NPD results are more useful in measuring the extent of its impact upon sales.

 

[shacklesmcgee]

Xbone sales being terrible in [Blank] shouldn't surprise anyone seeing as how everyone already knew the [Thing] would be [Action] in [Month after Blank). The real battle starts with [Month after Blanks] numbers. X1 should win [Month after blank] or something is terribly, horribly wrong.

There we go, fixed.

 

[RurouniZel]

Legit surprised by Mario Kart 8 being #2. Happy, but legit surprised.

 

[idlewild_]

Still catching up on the thread (on page 7/13), but was the issue with Wii U being up 90% YOY YTD ever straightened out? That works out to a crazy May for Wii U, and despite the real Wii U number being shockingly poor, that 90% YOY YTD increase would be a different order of crazy!

90% figure was for software. 85% is the the increase for May YoY

 

[sturgboski]

Come on guys.

Price cut
Dropping Kinect
Dedicated servers

It's flying off the shelves, give it soem tyme.

Well they gotta make room for the stuff that sells right? Right? *holds hand up waiting for high five*

Anyway, I am interested to see how things go now that the pricing is even and they each have some stuff coming this fall. The fall lineups, while weaker than hoped with so much pushed back, look pretty strong for both systems so it should get interesting from here on out.

 

[Relaxed Muscle]

Are you doubting the power of Pushmo?

More seriously, do they need *new* titles to do that, or would strategic promotion of old titles be sufficient? I think Pikmin 3, Wonderful 101, Super Mario 3D World would be *excellent* pickups for new buyers who joined the system with Mario Kart - the problem is *educating* them of that fact?

If people weren't interested in these games enough to buy a Wii U, why they would be now?....

 

[Jimmyfenix]

Come on guys.

Price cut
Dropping Kinect
Dedicated servers

It's flying off the shelves, give it soem tyme.

You need to go ly dow

I'll just leave this here ..

Now tell me the 360 or the PS3 can do that. Heck, even the PS4 would melt trying to run that.

 

[prag16]

Question:
Do the $200 "refurbished" units sold by Nintendo directly contribute to these sales numbers?

Good question. I'd be inclined to say no. BUT. If those refurbished units are units that were returned to stores as defective, they wouldn't have counted the first time around (after returns were subtracted out), but may count this time. Maybe somebody has some insight into this.

 

[shandy706]

Wait...NPD?!

The World Cup had my attention.

I see the extreme posts and hyperbole is strong as usually.

 

[Insane Metal]

There we go, fixed.

LoL, every single time xD

 

[NullPointer]

100% serious? I had no idea this was an issue.

As far as I can tell its not an issue, but its absolute truth for my jump into the fold.

 

[alatif113]

Let me hear the spin.

So I'm guessing Wii U > Xbox One? They've been releasing the exact numbers so far, even trailing behind the PS4. This is the only thing that could have changed now.

 

[pokeystaples]

Wolfenstein, The Show, Mario Kart 8...I am pleasantly surprised.

 

[ohlawd]

two days holy shit

keep beastin', MK8

 

[Spineker]

RROD confirmed?

It just gets funnier every time I read it. Their statement may as well have read "We're not releasing numbers this month. Here's a cloud that looks like a white flag instead."

 

[AcademicSaucer]

Those kirby sales are beyond my understanding

 

[Chobel]

Still catching up on the thread (on page 7/13), but was the issue with Wii U being up 90% YOY YTD ever straightened out? That works out to a crazy May for Wii U, and despite the real Wii U number being shockingly poor, that 90% YOY YTD increase would be a different order of crazy!

I'm having all sorts of trouble with Nintendo's statement today! Wii U *Software* sales are up 90% YTD, whereas hardware is up 85% for month

https://twitter.com/iansherr/status/478684442467500033

 

[Canis lupus]

You know with the fact that Hardware is up 95% YOY and with May 2013 as it was

Total Hardware for May 2014 should be around 854k or so

With Wii U at 60k of that, so 794k for PS4, XB1, 360, PS3, 3DS, and Vita

I have a feeling PS4 might've done very well this month

Interesting, I was predicting PS4 to be around 200k but after seeing this I think it may be closer to 300k.

 

[KingSnake]

Question:
Do the $200 "refurbished" units sold by Nintendo directly contribute to these sales numbers?

Probably not.

 

[delta25]

"Console are dying", my ass.

 

[rokkerkory]

Man if they are using this line:

Then things are very bad. If June doesn't turn around... price drop needs to happen.

 

[7DollarHagane]

At the same time though, the 360 had a whole year to itself without any tight competition.

There's a whole lot of different factors in terms of comparing the two and agree that a straight up number comparison don't show the whole picture.

those 360 numbers would have been double each month january-june if they had the stock to sell at that time.

That system was really HOT all of 2006. Man, what a great time.

 

[Jigorath]

Well I guess we wait for cream.

 

[reptilescorpio]

As far as I can tell its not an issue, but its absolute truth for my jump into the fold.

Jeez that's some terrible luck man

Hope you don't have any issues with this one.

 

[shinra-bansho]

When June NPD comes will we need to wait until July NPD to talk about it.

 

[Barack Lesnar]

Great day. Wolfenstein selling well + 'Murica just slayed their nemesis.

 

[WarpathDC]

Titanfall 360 ahead of XBO? Jeezz.

360 has a massive install base with a lot of dude bro gamers

 

[Toki767]

You guys realize even if Xbox One doesn't outsell the PS4 in June, Microsoft's PR is going to be about how the Xbox One sold like x amount of times more units in June than they did in May.

 

[Bgamer90]

So I'm guessing Wii U > Xbox One?

The thing with this is that I feel Nintendo would be having a field day if this was true.

You guys realize even if Xbox One doesn't outsell the PS4 in June, Microsoft's PR is going to be about how the Xbox One sold like x amount of times more units in June than they did in May.

Pretty much.

 

[DNAbro]

Man if they are using this line:

Then things are very bad. If June doesn't turn around... price drop needs to happen.

they just dropped it to 400$.

 

[SwiftDeath]

Interesting, I was predicting PS4 to be around 200k but after seeing this I think it may be closer to 300k.

I read it incorrectly. It was hardware revenue increase not hardware unit sales increase

 

[StoopKid]

When June NPD comes will we need to wait until July NPD to talk about it.

.
Then it will be wait for smash.

 

[The Power Of Snap]

Those kirby sales are beyond my understanding

People need their Kirby

 

[Spineker]

The thing with this is that I feel Nintendo would be having a field day if this was true.

Well that's the thing, Reggie already did at E3.

 

[7DollarHagane]

Great day. Wolfenstein selling well + 'Murica just slayed their nemesis.

Wolfenstein and Kirby doing well are the real victories here. Excellent games.

 

[Jaded Alyx]

Sorry, I missed a lot of the tread, but aren´t the Wii U sales like 110k on the US on May?

Is the 60k figure an official number or is based on an unnoficial calculation?

Where on Earth did you get 110k for May from?

 

[prag16]

Interesting, I was predicting PS4 to be around 200k but after seeing this I think it may be closer to 300k.

Looks like he edited his post now, but was gonna say the way its worded sounds like revenue, not units. So his numbers are way too high.

 

[WarpathDC]

Great day. Wolfenstein selling well + 'Murica just slayed their nemesis.

 

[Moosehole]

There we go, fixed.

I'm not defending MS here, matter of fact I'm a PS4 owner. I just find it very hard to believe the price cut won't help them win June. After June? Probably back to the status quo of PS4 winning every month.

 

[Tookay]

Xbone sales being terrible in May shouldn't surprise anyone seeing as how everyone already knew the price would be cut in June. The real battle starts with June's numbers. X1 should win June or something is terribly, horribly wrong.

I don't think they'll win June.

 

[FZZ]

Interesting, I was predicting PS4 to be around 200k but after seeing this I think it may be closer to 300k.

His logic is wrong. Hardware sales = the amount of revenue generated by total hardware. Not the amount of units sold.

 

[King_Moc]

No, it was supply issues. Launch was a total sellout, then when Oblivion, Fight Night, GRAW, and Dead or Alive 4 all hit that spring the demand was off the charts. I worked retail at that time and people were always trying to get units. It wasn't until august or so that it really became easy to find 360s at retail.

They were selling what they were sending to stores for a good long time.

Well, that makes this seem even worse.

I bet that if we go back to 2007 threads we can find almost the same comment about the PS3.

I'm sure you probably can, only it's 2014 now so i'm not sure what the relevance would be? My comment had nothing to do with a preference for either side.

 

[KingSnake]

When June NPD comes will we need to wait until July NPD to talk about it.

You don't have to wait. What's your interpretation on Reggie's statement?

 

[Madness]

Honestly, I can't imagine Canada or the Master Chief Collection really moving the needle. I'd imagine most people hyped about the MCC already have an Xbone. I can't picture a casual consumer running out to pick up a $400 device for a collection of games they already own.

Eh, I know at least 2 people now who have bought an xbox one since E3, they were just on the fence to see what happens with MS/Halo.

While I'm quite excited for the Halo collection... I just don't see it.

I can see it, think about this, $399 bundle with digital download of the Master Chief Collection. For anyone on the fence, a Halo fan it's enticing. It all depends on how it's marketed, how they start promoting xbox one. It's hard to extrapolate your own experiences beyond your own nose, but I've definitely seen a lot of the Halo fanbase which is large and rabid start to be receptive to Xbox and Halo again.

 

[reptilescorpio]

360 has a massive install base with a lot of dude bro gamers

Current gen software sales also tend to be front loaded too since early adopters of hardware tend to be informed and cashed up enough to grab games they want day one.

 

[BananaSprinkles]

I'm not defending MS here, matter of fact I'm a PS4 owner. I just find it very hard to believe the price cut won't help them win June. After June? Probably back to the status quo of PS4 winning every month.

I was absolutely certain Titanfall would win them March. I was wrong.

 

[CMojicaAce]

Wait...NPD?!

The World Cup had my attention.

I see the extreme posts and hyperbole is strong as usually.

Lol the World Cup made me completely forget that NPD was today.

 

[N.Domixis]

I don't think they'll win June.

I think it will be very close, but ps4 will win by a few thousand.