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PS NOW. Rentals from US$2.99 to US$19.99.
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Agree.
Riedinizzo
Banned
anyone care to break their nda and say whats available right now? or point me to someone else who has?
Hexa
Member
Mort tweeted the entire list as of yesterday. I don't think they've added more.
https://twitter.com/atPeteDodd
All of these games have been in previous phases. Note that there are still no Sony games AFAIK yet. I'd assume that's supposed to mean something?
Riedinizzo
Banned
...that's it? underwhelming
for the 800th fucking time. a subscription model is also coming
Your avatar and this post. A match made in Heaven.
Thank You...People for some reason have a hard time grapsing this
I'll give you one title..........Kane & Lynch.
BabyFaceKillah
Member
and it aint even the decent one....
Hexa
Member
Still beta. The actual launch will have "hundreds of titles" including The Last of Us, Uncharted, Gow: Ascension, Beyond, Puppeteer, Killzone 3, etc.
All Sony titles seem to be missing during this phase for some reason. :/
xKilltheMx
Member
New I think. Sonic CD for 90 days at 4.99. Seems they're getting the message.
In fact it looks like they've dropped most 4 hours to 3 dollars and 7 days at 6. I'd buy at 6 for sure.
30 days at 8
90 at 15
Prices seemed to drop to that for a lot of titles.
In fact it looks like they've dropped most 4 hours to 3 dollars and 7 days at 6. I'd buy at 6 for sure.
30 days at 8
90 at 15
Prices seemed to drop to that for a lot of titles.
EdReedFan20
Member
I don't think people should be blaming Sony here for the prices. They have said it's up to publishers. When I look at the prices, the only games that are exorbitantly high have one thing in common: Square Enix. Everything else (be it smaller in size or larger) has much more reasonable pricing. I don't think there are any games that have $20+ options that aren't published Square Enix. Sega's games are quite reasonable. Same with Capcom. I believe $15 is the most with those games.
I'll believe it when I see it. Sony has made false promises before.
EdReedFan20
Member
Uhm, what? There are only PS3 games right now. Wasn't it rumored they were working on actual PS1/PS2 remasters or something?
Edit: http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2014-ps1-ps2-games-heading-to-ps4
EdReedFan20
Member
Like I said, it seems the most egregious pricing comes from Square Enix.
Lovely Salsa
Banned
will there be ps4 games? If you aren't going to have all of the games out then don't bother
I want to be able to rent a ps4 game at the release day, not 100 days after
I don't have a ps4 but still
I want to be able to rent a ps4 game at the release day, not 100 days after
I don't have a ps4 but still
IMO they should delete the "4 hour option". Instead do something like this:
2 hours trial = Free.
2 days = 2.99$
7 days = 5.99$
15 days = 8.99$
30 days = 12.99$
90 days = 19.99$
Obviously they could increase prices for newest releases. At the same time PS2 and PS1 (if exist) titles should be cheaper.
2 hours trial = Free.
2 days = 2.99$
7 days = 5.99$
15 days = 8.99$
30 days = 12.99$
90 days = 19.99$
Obviously they could increase prices for newest releases. At the same time PS2 and PS1 (if exist) titles should be cheaper.
fvng
Member
I would pay $1.00 for a 2 hour trial honestly. Your prices are fair
SDCowboy
Member
Ok, fine, Megaman 9 and Sonic CD are ancient games that shouldn't cost more than $4.99 to buy, much less rent. And as you posted, PS1 games are supposed to be coming.
SDCowboy
Member
$20 to rent an old game that can likely be bought for around $5-15? Hell no.
There are a lot of people who don't have PlayStation 3s, and PlayStation 4s won't play the discs.
People keep forgetting that point in relation to this feature.
SDCowboy
Member
I'd imagine most people that really care that much about playing retro games, have the old consoles. Even if they don't that doesn't make $15-20 any more justifiable. That's just absurd. Hell, at those prices, the cost of a few 90 day rentals will buy you a PS3. It's ridiculous any way you slice it.
You have to find it first. Not that easy.
Game like Catherine 2nd hand goes for 20/30 euro here... Just an example.
Dark Souls? 30 too
15 dollars would be a steal for 2 weeks imho
(gamestop prices)
Dreamgazer
Member
Are you say it's absurd for the consumer that is willing to rent it at that price or absurd for Sony to be willing to charge?
I have already said I think the prices are ridiculous.
However, your "I'd imagine" is just your imagining and says nothing about the people who are actually going to use it.
People who don't have PlayStation 3s is a quantifiable number. Your imagining who would care to use the feature is not.
SDCowboy
Member
Heck, either. But hey, there are people out there that are willing to pay any price for anything. To each their own.
SDCowboy
Member
Fair enough. I think the rentals are over priced whether one has a PS4 or not. When the cost of a rental is more than most of the games cost to own, and the price of a few 90 day rentals will buy you a PS3 with backwards compatibility, the prices aren't justifiable, IMO.
SDCowboy
Member
With all due respect, I don't care how much it costs in Europe. I'm talking about the US. Here it's around a $5 title. That's why there are different pricing structures in different parts of the world for many services. Maybe in Copenhagen, the prices are a good deal. Here in the states, they're absurd.
Well then Sony have severely over estimated what people are willing to pay for quick fix gaming.
If "real" gamers are complaining about the prices what makes you think the average non gamer who owns a Bravia TV or mobile device is willing to spend that kind of money on renting a game when they have 1000's of other apps for free.
I was kind of hoping this would be Sony's alternative to rental shops and appease the developers at the same time, but this seems less and less aimed at gamers and more a waste of an investment.
Well if none of us tried to guess the ifs, buts and whys there would be very little to talk about.
Good thing the world is bigger then the usa then and sony unlike ms is targetting the global market
Uncharted 1 costs 18 dollars second hand here at gamestop
SDCowboy
Member
Did you miss the part of my post where I said services often cost different amounts in different regions? Let me break it down for you again. The prices being a good deal in your region, doesn't mean it's a good deal in another. Here in the US, where the service is launching and will likely get the largest portion of its use, the current pricing structure is absurd. As such, if the service is going succeed here, in the US (or NA, period), the structure and pricing is likely to need some serious adjusting, here...in the US.
I find the idea of renting a game for over than 15$ stupid, since you can get a lot of old games at Amazon/CEX/GameStop second hand bin for that price. Renting a game for 90 days? Sounds quite weird unless we're talking about a long RPG. And even if that's the case I haven't been able to stick to any game so long since WoW, which I stopped playing 2-3 years ago.
But I wanted to stay in the 3-20$ range they originally said.
Dr.brain64
Member
It should be $5 for 30 days and... that's it only that. Or go subscription based.
The problem though is (just like Pachter said) that it is the publisher who sets the price and by that alone only a subscription based structure would work IMO.
The problem though is (just like Pachter said) that it is the publisher who sets the price and by that alone only a subscription based structure would work IMO.
EdReedFan20
Member
Yes, but as the article says, PS1/PS2 games might be regular downloads and not a part of PS Now. The article states that (at the time of the article, at least) that only PS3 games will be on PS Now. Maybe something's changed since then, but if not, PS1/PS2 games on PS4 will only be downloadable.
Saints row the third is 30 for three months
Their FAQ mentions ps4 games although that would probably be restricted to ps4s.
JetBlackPanda
Member
Lolz dream worlds are a fun place to live.
Nobody would ever agree to that pricing.
EdReedFan20
Member
True, but SR2's most expensive option is $15. I wonder if SRT3 will follow suit, especially since it only give you two options 4 Hours and 90 Days. Also, I hope they bring PS Now (with PS4 games) to PCs. What they can do, to make sure people still buy PS4s, is produce a unique code on PS4 that would need to be typed into a client on a PC, similar to how you link YouTube to devices with a YT client. You would obviously also need to be logged into your PSN account for it to work.
I have to say I have some sympathy for Sony in all this.
Whilst I'd prefer some subscription option even that I find tough to judge a price level. I mean getting publishers on board will be tough, especially with current titles. Especially given where publishers price things to buy on psn or xbl. I do think its a little unfair to just these prices against amazon deep discounting or used game prices.
I think I'd be fine with something similar to movies on places like itunes, psn, etc. But really I'd only ever use them to rent for few days to try a game (and then buy normally) rather than some replacement for buying games.
I guess what we'll see is a sub for old stuff, and separate rental prices for current games.
Whilst I'd prefer some subscription option even that I find tough to judge a price level. I mean getting publishers on board will be tough, especially with current titles. Especially given where publishers price things to buy on psn or xbl. I do think its a little unfair to just these prices against amazon deep discounting or used game prices.
I think I'd be fine with something similar to movies on places like itunes, psn, etc. But really I'd only ever use them to rent for few days to try a game (and then buy normally) rather than some replacement for buying games.
I guess what we'll see is a sub for old stuff, and separate rental prices for current games.
mattiewheels
And then the LORD David Bowie saith to his Son, Jonny Depp: 'Go, and spread my image amongst the cosmos. For every living thing is in anguish and only the LIGHT shall give them reprieve.'
The reactions here are valuable, I'm sure that's exactly why Sony revealed the prices during beta and why they're already in flux. They're in a weird position, they're the first to open the door on streaming rentals at this big a scale and there aren't any rules yet. So obviously they've got to start high and see how people react till they hit the sweet spot.
Unfortunately, the sweet spot according to many people on this board is unrealistic. It'll never be cheaper than gamefly, and yeah you might be able to buy certain games for the same price. But there's a pretty big market of people with just Sony TVs or tablets who would like to try out a lot of things they otherwise wouldn't have access to, and they'll probably be willing to pay more than gamefly rates. I just hope there's a compromise with games already purchased digitally, for those who've already bought in to the system.
Unfortunately, the sweet spot according to many people on this board is unrealistic. It'll never be cheaper than gamefly, and yeah you might be able to buy certain games for the same price. But there's a pretty big market of people with just Sony TVs or tablets who would like to try out a lot of things they otherwise wouldn't have access to, and they'll probably be willing to pay more than gamefly rates. I just hope there's a compromise with games already purchased digitally, for those who've already bought in to the system.
EdReedFan20
Member
While the reactions are valuable, we don't only need to convince Sony, but the publishers. They can suggest a pricing structure, but they can't force one. They don't want to scare them off. Unfortunately, as I said before, Square Enix, needs a lot of convincing. They have a lot of games on PS Now and they make up the majority of the poorly priced rentals. It's publishers, not Sony, that might keep PS Now from really taking off. What Sony should do is put their 1st party stuff and lead the charge.
OccamsLightsaber
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Do you have any suggestions as to how much it should cost or how much you're willing to pay? There's no doubt Sony is looking for feedback.
Cave Johnson
Member
If companies are all for an all cloud/digital future, wouldn't it make sense to have the entry bar as low as possible to get more accurate results from that approach? I don't really get this all profit mentality without taking risks.