Leafhopper
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True didn't think of it that way.
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Scummiest publishers and the practices that earned them that title
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Orochinagis
Member
Capcom DLC locked content in the disc in their recent games
It's sad how everyone shrugs off Pete Hines lies like it's a normal thing for PR people to disrespect the people that buy their products. As soon as some new screenshot or video comes out all is forgiven. Nasty dude.
Ahah I understood that reference.gif
CambriaRising
Member
Its EA.
Wickerbasket
Member
EA killing Bullfrog.
Actually, just EA killing great developers in general.
Actually, just EA killing great developers in general.
The devil is in the details.
From EA's Terms of Service:
Electronic Arts said:
They have the right to add and remove anything from the EA Access vault as they please, if you subscribe for Battlefield 4, and they pull it off the market, that's too bad. PS+ and GwG allow you to keep games as long as your subscription continues. With EA Access, you're out of luck, and out of $30. This is the model that publishers would go to if they had the chance, because you're just leasing games, and they have the right to rescind those leases any time they choose.
Bioware's downward spiral was way before EA's buyout. At least as early as Jade Empire.
Jade Empire is a gem. You take that back.
For what it's worth, it got enough attention here I at least heard about it.
I really don't understand why on disc DLC is such a problem, it they put the content in the download would that really change anything?
It was a load of crap when SFxT came out and pirates could use the locked characters before legit buyers could even purchase it.
That game was buggy as hell.
Murder. She Wrote
Member
Look I agree with you but you should really list some examples.
Deadpool_X
Banned
Activision for firing employees days before they were due to receive millions of dollars in royalties owed to them for a series that Activision made billions of dollars from and essentially saved them from irrelevancy. Oh, and Bobby Kotick following up the whole thing by saying, "I'd rather pay my lawyers than my employees."
Which games would those be exactly? Also, what exactly do you call TLOU Remastered and Halo Master Chief Collection? If anyone is guilty of that at the moment, it's Sony. They are literally doing that exact thing. TLOU, the rumor of Beyond remastered, Unfinished Swan, Journey, and talk of the Uncharted games being remastered...all of these are just "reskinning the same games", as you so poignantly called it.
Which games would those be exactly? Also, what exactly do you call TLOU Remastered and Halo Master Chief Collection? If anyone is guilty of that at the moment, it's Sony. They are literally doing that exact thing. TLOU, the rumor of Beyond remastered, Unfinished Swan, Journey, and talk of the Uncharted games being remastered...all of these are just "reskinning the same games", as you so poignantly called it.
lightzGamin
Banned
Nintendo for re skinning the same games and charging $60. EA for releasing games that are still in alpha, making mods and charging full price.
DOWN
Banned
They released the ME3 extension free? And what was Capcom's? DR: Off the Record?
Deadpool_X
Banned
I know that Asura's Wrath literally did this. There was a whole act cut from the game with the true ending of the story that was then sold as DLC.
They remastered isn't a $60 game.
Not that I disagree with your overall point though.
DOWN
Banned
I honestly don't agree with people talking about buggy games saying it makes the publisher scummy. Bugs get pretty hard to catch and real world server stress and unique player experiences are ridiculously vast in multiplayer or online worlds. I just don't buy that these devs and their publishers thought they had done insufficient debugging for release. I don't think they knew about a lot of these bugs being there and decided to go ahead and get their reputations wrecked by the public with a busted game.
Brawly Likes to Brawl
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That was a fun day.
It's moments like that which keep me coming back to NeoGAF.
Hipster Cthulhu
Banned
Don't get me wrong, I love NV to bits but it's still buggy as hell, and had a lot of content cut.
EatinOlives
Member
You forgot actively shutting down online servers for their games with the sole purpose of pushing people to buy the new installments.
While Brian Fargo doesn't specifically call out Bethesda, that's who he's talking about. They also did this to Splash Damage and Human Head Studios.
TheRealTalker
Banned
NeededSleep
Member
Publishers that are still using Digital River as their logistics and delivery company.
SE for ruining a franchise which keeps getting progressivly worse, while remaking the wrong installments that fans cry out for. (just a little opinionated here
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Nintendo for region locking the 3ds.
Sega for constantly only publishing crap on north America only.
Capcom for giving me blueballs with the expansion of Dragon's Dogma, with no sequel to be seen in sight.
^Take those with a grain of salt ^
In all seriousness, a loot of companies can be faulted for a whole lot over the last console cycle. But the one company that been shafting/misleading the consumers a whole lot has to be EA. but, ya know, nothing will ever change till consumers start to finally hold them accountable.
The other one would be when Disney bought star wars franchise and killed off StarWars 1313, then signed a deal with EA to develop all other star wars games. This hurt a lot for me, but atleast ill see another battlefront, with God knows how much dlc paid to win barriers built in.
SE for ruining a franchise which keeps getting progressivly worse, while remaking the wrong installments that fans cry out for. (just a little opinionated here
)Nintendo for region locking the 3ds.
Sega for constantly only publishing crap on north America only.
Capcom for giving me blueballs with the expansion of Dragon's Dogma, with no sequel to be seen in sight.
^Take those with a grain of salt
^In all seriousness, a loot of companies can be faulted for a whole lot over the last console cycle. But the one company that been shafting/misleading the consumers a whole lot has to be EA. but, ya know, nothing will ever change till consumers start to finally hold them accountable.
The other one would be when Disney bought star wars franchise and killed off StarWars 1313, then signed a deal with EA to develop all other star wars games. This hurt a lot for me, but atleast ill see another battlefront, with God knows how much dlc paid to win barriers built in.
DancinSwayze
Member
Zynga, for damaging gaming. Glad people finally caught on to their scheme. They got pretty big there for awhile. What a horrible brand.
It most certainly was scummy.
Everything by Obsidian (except South Park) needed another year.
Poor KOTOR 2 could've been a masterpiece had they the time to finish it.
Super Nothing
Member
On disc DLC is a problem because it shouldn't be paid DLC in the first place. That's just putting arbitrary bits of a game behind a pay wall
...Scatter...
Banned
Whoever decided BF4 and TitanFall were ready to ship. Don't worry bro's, we'll patch it all in later.
Imru al-Qays
Banned
Square Enix for consolidating the entire JRPG industry and then jumping off a cliff with it.
According to Wikipedia, Sony was the first to introduce them for SOCOM: Fire Team Bravo,. It was a $20 code that was used to "combat piracy". EA introduced online passes as we knew them last gen (it started with Project Ten Dollar). Sony and THQ both adopted them.
EA with how they flaunt DLC content before you in in-game menus.
The worst offender I can recall was probably NFS: Most Wanted, with massive flashy red icons on the map pointing to cars you could 'switch into', only when you pressed the button responsible for switching the car they redirected you to the dlc shop. Fucking disgusting.
The worst offender I can recall was probably NFS: Most Wanted, with massive flashy red icons on the map pointing to cars you could 'switch into', only when you pressed the button responsible for switching the car they redirected you to the dlc shop. Fucking disgusting.
theSlacker
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I think the thought is that that kind of content would have been part of the full game in generations past. As some sort of secret or unlockable part of the game instead of just paying for it. Of course that is a problem I have with a lot of DLC, not just on disk stuff.
MrNyarlathotep
Banned
Yeah, in addition to the posts already specifically discussing Bethesda;
- Obsidians metascore-tied bonus, and Bethesda doing QA on New Vegas
- Oculus Riftmoney grab lawsuit
- Rumours of heavy executive meddling on The Evil Within to make a game Shinji Mikami doesn't actually want to make
Bethesda are earning themselves a pretty scummy rep as a publisher, albeit mostly based on gossip.
- Obsidians metascore-tied bonus, and Bethesda doing QA on New Vegas
- Oculus Rift
- Rumours of heavy executive meddling on The Evil Within to make a game Shinji Mikami doesn't actually want to make
Bethesda are earning themselves a pretty scummy rep as a publisher, albeit mostly based on gossip.
Atlus : They screwed over their non RPG fans big time , especially with the series called Snowboard kids.As publishers they went to make game without people that made the original games great.New people were like new devs that deal with lame mobile games (not saying mobile games are bad but this new dev was not great at making them)and didn't have any experience at the time.Atlus probably thought they would do job for cheap and took pride in reboot happening.
After the game Snowboard kids DS failed , they erased that the series exists and it's red headed step child locked in basement now.First game was popular enough to be N64 player choice , they had to ruin the good name that series had.New game tried to be a lot of what series wasn't about with new mechanics and besides that the game was fully exploitable/broken.It went from unique cartoony artstyle to anime one and characters had weird personality changes.The reboot didn't need to happen at all and they could have sold this game as Shin Megami Tensei Snowboarding.That would have at least caused less damage to people thinking that it would be game that they were looking for but no remorse from them.
After the game Snowboard kids DS failed , they erased that the series exists and it's red headed step child locked in basement now.First game was popular enough to be N64 player choice , they had to ruin the good name that series had.New game tried to be a lot of what series wasn't about with new mechanics and besides that the game was fully exploitable/broken.It went from unique cartoony artstyle to anime one and characters had weird personality changes.The reboot didn't need to happen at all and they could have sold this game as Shin Megami Tensei Snowboarding.That would have at least caused less damage to people thinking that it would be game that they were looking for but no remorse from them.
Not really that relevant anymore because Lucasarts is gone, but what they did to Free Radical Design and their work on Star Wars:Battlefront 3 was scummy to say the least.
It stil breaks my heart to learn this was one of the major contributing factors is Free Radical's demise. Ubisoft, and their absurd demands for trainwreck Haze, are also partially to blame.
It stil breaks my heart to learn this was one of the major contributing factors is Free Radical's demise. Ubisoft, and their absurd demands for trainwreck Haze, are also partially to blame.
guitarhero
Member
I love this stuff.
Ok, just one question:
Why is "Sega" represented with the head of ex-F1 driver Mark Webber? It's because they ask Sega Studios Australia or what?
Any publishers that shove unrealistic deadlines up developer's asses, and then somehow are disappointed by poor sales and angry fans. SEGA, EA and Ubisoft come to mine.
Game's are both art and business, that's understandable - but it can be sad to visibly see games go from this amazing E3 demonstration to an unpolished, sometimes broken mess near launch. Consumers like franchises, but they are not (always) stupid either. It's not like some publishers care, though.
Game's are both art and business, that's understandable - but it can be sad to visibly see games go from this amazing E3 demonstration to an unpolished, sometimes broken mess near launch. Consumers like franchises, but they are not (always) stupid either. It's not like some publishers care, though.
SpartanN92
Banned
And in that time they still managed to make a better game than Bethesda... Obsidian should be the Fallout 4 developers
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