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[Takao]

Um why the pessimism? If Warriors Chronicles has done decently enough on the 3DS, it looks like the sequel might do alright. Are you actually pinning the whole future of the series on Zelda Musou? Considering it's on the Wii U, that seems really weird to me...

ohlawd's talking about senran kagura

 

[ZSaberLink]

ohlawd's talking about senran kagura

Oh ok. Thanks for clarifying that!

So far this year (software over 200K in 2014 retail only):
1. [3DS] Youkai Watch 2 - 1,894,593
2. [3DS] Youkai Watch - 918,852
3. [3DS] DQM2 - 739,032
4. [3DS] Kirby Triple Deluxe - 643,622
5. [WIU] Mario Kart 8 - 613,636
6. [3DS] Puzzles & Dragons Z - 416,333
7. [3DS] Pokemon X/Y - 438,600
8. [3DS] Mario Party: Island Tour - 418,482
9. [PS3] Mobile Suit Gundam: Extreme VS. Full Boost - 380,136
10. [PS3] Dark Souls 2 - 335,226
11. [PSV] Freedom Wars - 270,019
12. [3DS] Persona Q - 244,796
13. [3DS] Story of Seasons - 220,599
14. [3DS] Monster Hunter 4 - 210,451
15. [PSV] Sword Art Online - 209,895

Lower than 200K, but also have some great legs:
[WIU] Super Mario 3D World - 163,501
[PS3] Grand Theft Auto V - 151,950
[3DS] Animal Crossing New Leaf - 146,070

So with Smash Bros 3DS, Pokemon ORAS, and MH4G, we'll likely have 3 more million sellers. I'd say alongside both Youkai Watch games (I'm pretty sure YW1 will hit 1m for the year), that'll make about 5m sellers on 3DS. Maybe Mario Kart 8 can eke its way there for a 6th. Anything else I'm missing?

 

[Hero of Legend]

What I don't get is why SWC3 is on Vita, haven't the Vita entries sold terribly?

 

[Takao]

What I don't get is why SWC3 is on Vita, haven't the Vita entries sold terribly?

Some of the expansions and older ports haven't done well, but the licensed ones have sold fine. SW4 on Vita should be around 100k too.

 

[sörine]

What I don't get is why SWC3 is on Vita, haven't the Vita entries sold terribly?

Koei on PlayStation: game bombs, keep trying, we need to build a market
Koei on Nintendo: game bombs, cancel everything, will work 4 moneyhats
Koei on Xbox: game bombs, keep porting, but the west

 

[MasterSheen]

I succeed!!!

I got the Media Create White Paper 2014 in a japanese library. They're making the photoduplication of the top 1000 2013, and also the Top 500 used games of 2013 for me.

It will take a little time to translate, i request people who can read japanese to mail me and help with the translation.

2013 had 8 million sellers (Luigi's Mansion included).

Also Samurai Warriors Chronicle 2nd for 3DS is at 115.577 according to Media Create.

Hmm that's quite the jump from the last number I remember
(60k-ish?)

 

[ZSaberLink]

Hmm that's quite the jump from the last number I remember
(60k-ish?)

Japanltdrank (Famitsu) has 68K LTD (probably the last time we saw it chart), so your memory serves you well =).

 

[hiska-kun]

Preview from Media Create Top 1000 Software 2013

Top 10 Best Sellers 2013

01. [3DS] Monster Hunter 4 # <ACT> (Capcom) {2013.09.14} (¥5.990) - 3.110.240
02. [3DS] Pokemon X # <RPG> (Pokemon Co.) {2013.10.12} (¥4.800) - 1.967.479
03. [3DS] Pokemon Y # <RPG> (Pokemon Co.) {2013.10.12} (¥4.800) - 1.759.117
04. [3DS] Animal Crossing: New Leaf # <ETC> (Nintendo) {2012.11.08} (¥4.800) - 1.628.044 / 3.597.999
05. [3DS] Friend Collection: New Life # <ETC> (Nintendo) {2013.04.18} (¥4.800) - 1.612.037
06. [3DS] Dragon Quest VII: Fighters of Eden <RPG> (Square Enix) {2013.02.07} (¥6.090) - 1.237.825
07. [3DS] PazuDora Z: Puzzle & Dragons Z <RPG> (GungHo Online Entertainment) {2013.12.12} (¥4.400) - 1.005.658
08. [3DS] Luigi's Mansion: Dark Moon <ACT> (Nintendo) {2013.03.20} (¥4.800) - 1.003.188
09. [PS3] Grand Theft Auto V <ACT> (Take-Two Interactive Japan) {2013.10.10} (¥7.770) - 649.091
10. [PS3] JoJo's Bizarre Adventure: All-Star Battle # <FTG> (Bandai Namco Games) {2013.08.29} (¥7.980) - 483.378

Some random games with various skus:

[PSV] Soul Sacrifice # <ACT> (Sony Computer Entertainment) {2013.03.07} (¥5.980) - 190.546
[PSV] Soul Sacrifice: "United Front" Double Pack <ACT> (Sony Computer Entertainment) {2013.03.07} (¥7.980) - 30.314
Total: 220.860

[3DS] Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate # <ACT> (Capcom) {2011.12.10} (¥5.800) - 7.451 / 1.595.006
[3DS] Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate (Best Price!) <ACT> (Capcom) {2012.11.15} (¥3.800) - 239.788 / 363.383
Total: 1.958.389

[3DS] Fantasy Life <RPG> (Level 5) {2012.12.27} (¥5.800) - 156.827 / 273.898
[3DS] Fantasy Life: Link! <RPG> (Level 5) {2013.07.25} (¥4.980) - 82.039
Total: 355.937

[3DS] Bravely Default: Flying Fairy <RPG> (Square Enix) {2012.10.11} (¥6.090) - 25.114 / 308.808
[3DS] Bravely Default: For the Sequel <RPG> (Square Enix) {2013.12.05} (¥4.990) - 59.300
Total: 368.108

Revelations Total sales for 2013

[3DS] Resident Evil: Revelations <ADV> (Capcom) {2012.01.26} (¥5.990) - 303.793
[PS3] Resident Evil: Revelations <ADV> (Capcom) {2013.05.23} (¥4.990) - 184.101
[WIU] Resident Evil: Revelations <ADV> (Capcom) {2013.05.23} (¥4.990) - 18.359
[360] Resident Evil: Revelations <ADV> (Capcom) {2013.05.23} (¥4.990) - 10.977

First week and total sales for 2012 (and first week sellthrough)

[3DS] Samurai Warriors: Chronicles 2nd <ACT> (Koei Tecmo) {2012.09.13} (¥6.090) - 33.933 / 78.467 <61,20%>

Sales for 2013

[3DS] Samurai Warriors: Chronicles 2nd <ACT> (Koei Tecmo) {2012.09.13} (¥6.090) - 37.110 / 115.577

Extra:

[WII] Xenoblade Chronicles (Nintendo) {2010.06.10} (¥6.800) - 6.840 / 193.848

 

[mao2]

What I don't get is why SWC3 is on Vita, haven't the Vita entries sold terribly?

They're actually doing pretty well, especially considering the fact that all of them are multi-platform titles (with the exception of Dynasty Warriors Next), as compared to the 3DS entries which are exclusive. Koei Tecmo probably see this as an opportunity to get more sales therefore they decided put Samurai Warriors: Chronicles 3 on Vita too.

L Thammy posted the numbers on the previous page.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=124576637&postcount=409

Koei on PlayStation: game bombs, keep trying, we need to build a market
Koei on Nintendo: game bombs, cancel everything, will work 4 moneyhats
Koei on Xbox: game bombs, keep porting, but the west

Again, Warriors series is synonymous with PlayStation brand, therefore it makes sense to keep their mainline titles there. WiiU and 3DS actually got more Warriors titles than any of the previous Nintendo consoles, contrary to what you're implying.

 

[casiopao]

That 3DS domination omg. And all the title is mostly make by Ninty. 8 million seller on 3DS and yet developer hoped more on mobile?

 

[CTLance]

I hope the fully translated Top1k will warrant a new thread.

Anyway, Thank you, hiska-kun (and unnamed working drones), for slaving away so we can have our numbers.

 

[Otakumegane]

Extra:

[WII] Xenoblade Chronicles (Nintendo) {2010.06.10} (¥6.800) - 6.840 / 193.848

Smh Japan.

 

[And_Gignac]

I wonder how Atlus will respond to Persona Q's success. Will they continue to develop Persona spin offs for Nintendo consoles?

 

[AniHawk]

i can't believe luigi's mansion 2 sold 1 million copies in any region, let alone japan.

 

[Mpl90]

Samurai Warriors Chronicles 2nd had great legs, in the end. Even more when you consider it was a sort-of-expansion of the first one, and not a full sequel to a launch game. Almost 120,000 units starting from 34,000 the first week is pretty good. Not surprised the sequel is coming, then (I mean, a full sequel). Even if it's shared with Vita, which had good results with other Musou releases recently, so it makes sense.

 

[casiopao]

i can't believe luigi's mansion 2 sold 1 million copies in any region, let alone japan.

Well, it is year of Luigi and the game itself is a great game?

 

[michaelius]

Shinovi Versus apparently takes place after 2 (which immediately followed Burst), so they aren't part of the plot yet.

Honestly that sounds almost like Level 5 class IP missmanagment.

I'm suprised they haven't made SK2 multiplatform release - they can't abandom fanbase on 3DS but it's weird they haven't tried to capitalise on SV success also and I expected Burst to have been ported to Vita by now.

 

[L~A]

I succeed!!!

I got the Media Create White Paper 2014 in a japanese library. They're making the photoduplication of the top 1000 2013, and also the Top 500 used games of 2013 for me.

It will take a little time to translate, i request people who can read japanese to mail me and help with the translation.

2013 had 8 million sellers (Luigi's Mansion included).

Also Samurai Warriors Chronicle 2nd for 3DS is at 115.577 according to Media Create.

115 577? Well, that's pretty impressive. Makes me even more curious about potential sales for SWC3, to be honest.

By the way, fully expecting Squeenix to announce Gyrozetter 2 any time now, to go with GC2 and HB2

 

[mao2]

Honestly that sounds almost like Level 5 class IP missmanagment.

I'm suprised they haven't made SK2 multiplatform release - they can't abandom fanbase on 3DS but it's weird they haven't tried to capitalise on SV success also and I expected Burst to have been ported to Vita by now.

They released Senran Kagura: Bon Appetit for Vita and announced Senran Kagura: Estival Versus for PlayStation platform(s). I think that should be enough to keep the fans happy.

 

[Mpl90]

To be honest, I think Hero Bank did better than both GC and GyroZetter. What are its most recent numbers?

 

[hiska-kun]

To be honest, I think Hero Bank did better than both GC and GyroZetter. What are its most recent numbers?

Famitsu

[3DS] Hero Bank <RPG> (Sega) {2014.03.20} (¥5.550) - 51.426

http://m.neogaf.com/showpost.php?p=121407529

 

[Chris1964]

if at first you don't succeed try and try again

Hero Bank 2 (SEGA - 3DS) announced for November 27th.

http://gamestalk.net/hero-bank-2/

I don't know budget and Sega's expectations but first game was over 50k 1,5 month ago and didn't join bomba bins.

 

[crinale]

To be honest, I think Hero Bank did better than both GC and GyroZetter. What are its most recent numbers?

IIRC it's the third best selling new IP of 2014 so far in Japanese non-mobile gaming market.

 

[mao2]

Famitsu

[3DS] Hero Bank <RPG> (Sega) {2014.03.20} (¥5.550) - 51.426

http://m.neogaf.com/showpost.php?p=121407529

If it's not too troublesome, could you post the sales numbers of the Warriors titles on Vita? Thanks.

 

[L~A]

I don't know budget and Sega's expectations but first game was over 50k 1,5 month ago and didn't join bomba bins.

IIRC it's the third best selling new IP of 2014 so far in Japanese non-mobile gaming market.

Oh dear... When 50k LTD sounds like a noteworth achievement... Surprised HB did this well, actually.

Anyway, Leg-o-meter July Edition. Lots of game keep on climbing, like Mario Kart 8. It's actually about to overtake GTAV, the only non-Nintendo game in the Top 10. As for Monster Hunter 4, it's been gaining steam in the past few weeks, no idea why... hype for 4G?

 

[michaelius]

IIRC it's the third best selling new IP of 2014 so far in Japanese non-mobile gaming market.

I wanted to ask if we really had only so few new IPs but then I realised I can't remember what else might be in top 3 apart from Freedom Wars.

 

[Chris1964]

Hmm that's quite the jump from the last number I remember
(60k-ish?)

Soneone from K-T had mentioned that the game was approaching 100k many months ago and if it passed that barrier a sequel would be possible.

 

[Kresnik258]

Samurai Warriors Chronicles 2nd did well. I wonder what the average sale price of those new 30k were though.

It will be interesting to see which of the SWC3 versions does better. I could see a possible higher opening on Vita but longer legs on 3DS.

As for Senran Kagura... it's really not boding to well. Wednesday's going to be interesting (by the way, are we getting numbers on Wednesday or are we expecting delays?)

 

[casiopao]

Famitsu

[3DS] Hero Bank <RPG> (Sega) {2014.03.20} (¥5.550) - 51.426

http://m.neogaf.com/showpost.php?p=121407529

I actually would prefer it better if they just make it more like [C] - The Money of Soul and Possibility Control anime style for the game here.

I feel that one had huge potential compared to Hero bank.T_T

 

[L~A]

Soneone from K-T had mentioned that the game was approaching 100k many months ago and if it passed that barrier a sequel would be possible.

Actually, they never said 100k, but they did say they were quite happy with the series sales on the 3DS.

Here's the tweet you're talking about (I think?).

 

[Orniletter]

I wonder how Atlus will respond to Persona Q's success. Will they continue to develop Persona spin offs for Nintendo consoles?

I think they could rotate Persona Q and Etrian Odyssey from now on, it would give Etrian Odyssey some breathing room .

 

[Mpl90]

Comgnet retail chain: preorder stats / comparisons as of August 11th, 2014

[3DS] Monster Hunter 4G - 767pt

[3DS] Puzzle & Dragons Z - 279pt
[3DS] Yokai Watch 2 - 290pt + 215pt = 505pt
[3DS] Super Smash Bros. For Nintendo 3DS - 430pt

[PS3] Persona 4 Arena - 91pt
[PS3] Persona 4 Arena Ultimax - 63pt + 32pt = 95pt

[PSV] Toukiden - 51pt
[PSP] Toukiden - 40pt
[PSV] Toukiden: Kiwami - 44pt

[WiiU] Pikmin 3 - 67pt
[WiiU] Super Mario 3D World - 55pt
[WiiU] Dragon Quest X: Nemureru Yuusha to Michibiki no Meiyuu Online - 59pt
[WiiU] Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze - 20pt
[WiiU] Mario Kart 8 - 235pt
[PS3] Shin Gundam Musou - 115pt
[PSV] Shin Gundam Musou - 20pt
[PS3] Samurai Warriors 4 - 103pt + 15pt = 118pt
[PSV] Samurai Warriors 4 - 26pt
[WiiU] Hyrule Warriors - 28pt + 19pt = 47pt

[PS3] Super Robot Wars OG Saga: Masou Kishin III - Pride of Justice - 32pt
[PS3] Super Robog Wars OG Saga: Masou Kishin F - Coffin of the End - 27pt

[WiiU] Super Smash Bros. For Wii U - 22pt

 

[L~A]

Pretty good pre-orders for MH4G. Hyrule Warriors... not so much, but hey. Not much of a surprise here

 

[crinale]

I wanted to ask if we really had only so few new IPs but then I realised I can't remember what else might be in top 3 apart from Freedom Wars.

Second new IP is Watch Dogs. And believe it or not the fourth one is ... Titanfall.

 

[The_lascar]

Don't forget Knack.

 

[casiopao]

Don't forget Knack.

That one is bundled. The retail sales like 1k?

 

[KimonoNoNo]

I think they could rotate Persona Q and Etrian Odyssey from now on, it would give Etrian Odyssey some breathing room .

It would have to be P5 based, because I can't see how Atlus could shoehorn another P3xP4 crossover into the already stretched to breaking point continuity.

 

[Hellraider]

I wonder how Atlus will respond to Persona Q's success. Will they continue to develop Persona spin offs for Nintendo consoles?

2014 EO2R
2015 EO5
2016 EO3R
2016(7) P5Q

... is what I'm expecting.

 

[Exile20]

Monster Hunter 4 Ultimate, Persona 5, Hyrule Warriors, Final Fantasy XV, and Super Smash Bros. for 3DS lead the way on the latest Famitsu’s most wanted games chart. You’ll find the full listing after the break.
1. [3DS] Monster Hunter 4 Ultimate – 949 votes
2. [PS3] Persona 5 – 800 votes
3. [WIU] Hyrule Warriors – 603 votes
4. [PS4] Final Fantasy XV – 488 votes
5. [3DS] Super Smash Bros. for 3DS – 444 votes
6. [3DS] Pokemon Omega Ruby/Alpha Sapphire – 432 votes
7. [PS4] Kingdom Hearts III – 419 votes
8. [PS3] Tales of Zestiria – 401 votes
9. [3DS] Bravely Second – 305 votes
10. [PS4] The Evil Within – 297 votes
11. [PSV] Toukiden Extreme – 289 votes
12. [PSV] Bullet Girls – 262 votes
13. [WIU] Bayonetta 2 – 246 votes
14. [WIU] Super Smash Bros. for Wii U – 244 votes
15. [PS3] Shining Resonance – 222 votes
16. [PS4] Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain – 207 votes
17. [3DS] Forbidden Magna – 201 votes
18. [PS3] The Evil Within – 195 votes
19. [PS3] The Last Remnant – 183 votes
20. [3DS] Final Fantasy Explorers – 180 votes
21. [PS3] The Legend of Heroes: Sen no Kiseki II – 174 votes
22. [PS4] Omega Quintet – 146 votes
23. [PS4] Bloodborne – 138 votes
24. [PSV] Phantasy Star Nova – 126 votes
25. [PS3] Ni-Oh – 119 votes
26. [PS3] Persona 4 Arena Ultimax – 104 votes
27. [PS4] Destiny – 103 votes
28. [PS3] Kingdom Hearts HD 2.5 Remix – 95 votes
29. [PSV] The Legend of Heroes: Sen no Kiseki II – 94 votes
30. [PS3] The Last Guardian – 93 votes

http://nintendoeverything.com/famitsus-most-wanted-games-81014/

 

[Sammy Samusu]

Tsutaya: http://www.tsutaya.co.jp/rank/game.html

Tragic.

[3DS] Bravely Default: Flying Fairy <RPG> (Square Enix) {2012.10.11} (¥6.090) - 25.114 / 308.808
[3DS] Bravely Default: For the Sequel <RPG> (Square Enix) {2013.12.05} (¥4.990) - 59.300
Total: 368.108

This is how you manage a franchise. Watch out for FTS Best Price this week, coming for 400k copies sold. Bravely Second is riding on good momentum!

[WII] Xenoblade Chronicles (Nintendo) {2010.06.10} (¥6.800) - 6.840 / 193.848

2012: 9,349 / 187,008

Nintendo should have released an HD Remaster, maybe they decided against to focus on Xenoblade X. (it still got delayed though)

[3DS] Resident Evil: Revelations <ADV> (Capcom) {2012.01.26} (¥5.990) - 303.793

Bomba my ass!

Samurai Warriors Chronicles 2nd did well. I wonder what the average sale price of those new 30k were though.

It will be interesting to see which of the SWC3 versions does better. I could see a possible higher opening on Vita but longer legs on 3DS.

I don't think it hit the bomba bin, even now it's been sold at regular price on Amazon.

And I agree with your prediction, it's unusual for a Samurai Warriors game to have legs, maybe SWC attracted some female players? That would give the 3DS version some advantage.

 

[Foshy]

Bomba my ass!

How much did it sell in the west though?

 

[zeromcd73]

Tsutaya: http://www.tsutaya.co.jp/rank/game.html

No PS4 software in the Tsutaya or Comgnet charts and no new software releases!!! Will this finally be the week PS4 falls into the 4k zone of death!?
TL Note: 4 means death~~

Also, YW2 will surpass 2m. Hopefully it has some great legs and can reach 3m+.

 

[random25]

Also, YW2 will surpass 2m. Hopefully it has some great legs and can reach 3m+.

Before the month ends, it will end up at 2M. 3M+ before this year ends is not impossible, if YW1 is an indication of the selling power of the franchise, though with the next wave of big hitters arriving later this year (MH4G, Smash 3DS, Pokemon ORAS) it may slow it down a bit. Hopefully it can maintain a constant 20-30k a week for the rest of the year.

 

[Bruno MB]

Unless Level 5 suddenly stops production of Youkai Watch 2, the 3 million mark is a lock. I expect virtually no drop for week 32 and next week is Obon, so the game will have a bump. Its LTD at the end of August should be close to 2,5 million units.

What I would like to know is its exact sell-through to see if they are being able to meet demand. Famitsu digital sales estimates should be a good indicator, if its digital sales are abnormally high, then there must be some supply issues.

Anyway, the question is whether Youkai Watch 2 can get to the exclusive tier of 4 million sellers. Only 3 third-party titles managed to reach such a godly status (Monster Hunter Portable 3rd, Dragon Quest IX and Monster Hunter Portable 2nd G). But I guess it still is to premature for such speculations, I must not to get carried away by Youkai Watch hype.

I succeed!!!

I got the Media Create White Paper 2014 in a japanese library. They're making the photoduplication of the top 1000 2013, and also the Top 500 used games of 2013 for me.

It will take a little time to translate, i request people who can read japanese to mail me and help with the translation.

That's great, thank you!

 

[Kandinsky]

new releases
[PSV] Monster Hunter Frontier G: Beginner's Package <ACT> (Capcom) (¥6.264)

This is it, this is the test, lets do this Japan.

 

[sechsterangriff]

This is it, this is the test, lets do this Japan.

Is MH Frontier a good enough seller IP to be "the test"? I though only the main series actually sold very good numbers. Not to mention it's an online only game.

 

[Fisico]

Is MH Frontier a good enough seller IP to be "the test"? I though only the main series actually sold very good numbers. Not to mention it's an online only game.

He's joking

 

[ATXAlchemy]

This is it, this is the test, lets do this Japan.

What test?

If a limited late port of a subscription based(?) Monster Hunter on Vita will sell at all?

 

[sechsterangriff]

He's joking

My sarcasm-o-meter is clearly broken....

 

[allan-bh]

I succeed!!!

I got the Media Create White Paper 2014 in a japanese library. They're making the photoduplication of the top 1000 2013, and also the Top 500 used games of 2013 for me.

It will take a little time to translate, i request people who can read japanese to mail me and help with the translation.

2013 had 8 million sellers (Luigi's Mansion included).

Also Samurai Warriors Chronicle 2nd for 3DS is at 115.577 according to Media Create.

Very nice. So, is photo archive, not possible to copy and paste the names?