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[Byron Bluth]

Jim Sterling already tweeted this but I thought the same thing.

Square Enix viewed Tomb Raider as a failure sales wise and it was sold on a lot of platforms. Yet they went ahead to make it exclusive to the lowest install base for all current gen consoles (yes that includes the Wii U).

This industry!

 

[Bricky]

CBOAT? Shit just got real.

This thread is GAF drama at its absolute finest.

 

[Dr Amazon MD]

Uh no




no

I haven't read those beautiful words in far too long. Now if I could just make out the cypher to this code...

 

[Go_Ly_Dow]

We just need one more for the Holy Trinity.

GopherD?

 

[Wishmaster92]

I'm assuming this is the "huge third party exclusive" that was hinted at a few months ago, right?

Yeah, it seems like it.

 

[Broadbandito]

This is what SE is giving up

 

[mcrommert]

Uh no




no

And it keeps delivering...This is a good tuesday

 

[Toa TAK]

It has already begun.

 

[Sid]

Jim Sterling already tweeted this but I thought the same thing.

Square Enix viewed Tomb Raider as a failure sales wise and it was sold on a lot of platforms. Yet they went ahead to make it exclusive to the lowest install base for all current gen consoles (yes that includes the Wii U).

This industry!

Must have got a fat stack of cash in return.

 

[protomouse]

I don't get it. They've jumped console platforms with gusto since leaving Nintendo for Sony and then hopping in bed with Nintendo again for exclusives like Dragon Quest IX and X and Crystal Chronicles.

This exclusivity move is not outside of their scope and their fans should he used to it by now.

I'd say it's largely a different fanbase these days, at least as far as Final Fantasy is concerned. It has amassed a lot of people who didn't game prior to PlayStation, either probably because they were too young or because the franchise didn't have the mainstream appeal that started with VII. I think it's especially the young audience that has a very strong attachment to the PlayStation brand. It's all speculation, but I don't think we'd have gotten the absolutelly batshit response to the FF XIII announcement if those speculations aren't at least somewhat true. The series never really was multi-platform to those fans. But yeah, at some point you've just gotta get used to business being business. People get too emotional, it all blows over, and then we're back to playing video games again.

 

[FunkyPajamas]

Hahaha oh, nice. CBOAT is here. Let the carnival of stupid commence!

 

[Shinta]

This is a franchise that can sell in the realm of 7M lifetime.

It's definitely not clear that it can sell 7M now, since last gen sales are dropping off a cliff and next gen software sales are not hitting numbers close to that yet.

 

[KoopaTheCasual]

We just need one more for the Holy Trinity.

Matt, you're our only hope!

 

[off duty ninja]

"Rise" into the cloud.

 

[Tricky I Shadow]

Person that told me about many MS 'things' previously is telling me it's indeed a timed exclusive.

PRAISE JESUS!

 

[EroticSushi]

Uh no




no

Guess I'll be waiting for the timer to run out for this one. Rather curious how much MS even put on the table for them to agree to this.

 

[Neuromancer]

Jim Sterling already tweeted this but I thought the same thing.

Square Enix viewed Tomb Raider as a failure sales wise and it was sold on a lot of platforms. Yet they went ahead to make it exclusive to the lowest install base for all current gen consoles (yes that includes the Wii U).

This industry!

Well when MS offers to drive a dump truck full of money to you, that's one way of mitigating risk.

 

[Nyteshade517]

The problem is I have an XB1 and this deal doesn't make me want to get the game. It basically makes me want to stay as far away from it as I can. I don't understand how anyone can say this is good in any way for anybody. Crystal Dynamics is getting roasted. Square Enix is getting roasted. Microsoft is getting roasted...again. Where is the positive in this?

 

[Script_Flipper]

That's a bummer. Just played the definitive edition not too long ago and really enjoyed it. Hopefully my first Tomb Raider isn't also my last.

 

[PhaZZe]

Uh no




no

CBOAT delivers again

 

[Skele7on]

But when the Destiny stuff happened, everyone said it was okay to have timed stuff.

Now this happens and everyone loses their minds?

 

[Karthaugh]

Got the last one one PC, won't be getting the new one. Shame, as it was fairly decent, and could've been great with a little work. I fear this could be a crippling blow to a rebooted franchise, considering how unhappy they were with the original sales.

 

[enanogrande]

The thing that bothers me with TR is that it was first announced as a multiplatform title.

Yeah, I'm not too cool with this part. When titles are announced as exclusive from the get-go its one thing, but when it's like this it just feels... weird.

I don't really have a problem with exclusives though - choosing to only own one console this gen meant I was going to miss out on some stuff. It's just how the business works. Hell, if the XB1 gets eventually gets an exclusive line-up as good as the Playstation's, maybe I'll break down and buy one.

That being said, I was very much looking forward to TR, so possibly not being able to play it does leave me a bit salty.

EDIT: OH shit CBOAT sighting while I was typing XD Oh well then, I'll just wait for the PS4 Game of The Year Edition!

 

[Rozart]

yeah I don't understand what he means he could mean it's there for good or he could mean it's just timed, it just adds more confusion to this mess.

Geoff only managed to get a vague "Holiday 2015 exclusive" reply to his questions. Shinobi says that it may be timed as well. Take that as you will.

Person that told me about many MS 'things' previously is telling me it's indeed a timed exclusive.

 

[twobear]

Old tricks?

Did he trick Square Enix here? Did he have someone there blindly sign an agreement and scream AH-HA! GOTCHA! TOMB RAIDER 2 IS OUUUURS~

Tricks in the sense of paying for exclusivity instead of developing new titles.

 

[StrongArmSteady]

no to what though...No to it going to PC? No to it being a three year exclusive?


me no no what he say no what i mean?

Come on man! at least look at the post he is quoting, he even emboldened the 3 year part..

 

[RoboPlato]

While surprising, this deal kind of makes sense to me. Most of TR 2013's sales were on Playstation platforms but with Uncharted coming next year, it'll get overshadowed there. This will allow them to get more support on Xbox One then eventually release on PS4 when Uncharted hype has died down.

 

[KissVibes]

This is what SE is giving up

You think they just did this for free?

 

[Megatron]

im just going to say 'boo' and move on.

i dont think its nice to pay devs monies for exclusives, timed or not. Only creates backlash imo

Agreed. From a fan perspective it's such a pointless waste of resources. An Xbox One owner was always going to be able to play Tomb Raider. Instead of Microsoft using that money to make a game that wouldn't be made otherwise as Nintendo did with Bayonetta 2, they waste it on keeping it off PS4. That Xbox one owner receives no benefit except I guess for the 10 year old owner in the playground who can use it in his arguments.

 

[Tripon]

Uh no




no

Well, there we go.

 

[DidntKnowJack]

This just sounds like it's desperation time for MS. Ok, maybe desperate is a strong word, but they're making these kinds of moves because they're getting real concerned. I just wish they'd do something besides the standard "throw money at the problem" method of practice.

Give me another Rallisport Challenge.
Give me another Crimson Skies.
Give me another Project Gotham.

Give me a good reason to want your console, MS.

/matrix gif - Not like this. Not like this.

 

[Mononoke]

But when the Destiny stuff happened, everyone said it was okay to have timed stuff.

Now this happens and everyone loses their minds?

Comparing DLC to a full game?

Well, now that this game is supposedly a timed exclusive, I can see your point. But the majority of the outrage in this thread was over the idea that it was a full exclusive to X1. And I don't see how you can compare exclusive DLC to that. But now that it's supposedly timed Exclusive, I'm curious how people feel about that.

Are you okay with timed exclusives for major titles?

 

[KoopaTheCasual]

GopherD?

Gopher has been dead silent after people went back through all his posts and realized he had been teasing Project Beast (Bloodborne) for the past 6 months.

He would probably like to avoid that situation again.

 

[murgo]

But when the Destiny stuff happened, everyone said it was okay to have timed stuff.

Now this happens and everyone loses their minds?

Are you seriously comparing a few items and missions to a WHOLE GAME??

 

[Hyun Sai]

Cboat hinted it may not be a +3 years exclusive, so what is it ? Full exclusive ? 2 years exclusive ? 1 year exclusive ? 6 months ?

We still know nothing, so I don't know what's the big deal about his post.

 

[NuKERxyz]

But when the Destiny stuff happened, everyone said it was okay to have timed stuff.

Now this happens and everyone loses their minds?

Not even comparable, a DLC vs a Retail Game.

 

[jhmtehgamr20xx]

We just need one more for the Holy Trinity.

NTKRL? Thuway?

 

[TheSlySoul]

Geoff only managed to get a vague "Holiday 2015 exclusive" reply to his questions. Shinobi says that it may be timed as well. Take that as you will.

cboat also hinting as well
Think we can call it a day considering MS took itself out of the publisher spot.

 

[Gorillaz]

But when the Destiny stuff happened, everyone said it was okay to have timed stuff.

Now this happens and everyone loses their minds?

Is Destiny not coming out on the Xbox 1 or 360?

 

[Xpliskin]

But when the Destiny stuff happened, everyone said it was okay to have timed stuff.

Now this happens and everyone loses their minds?

Beta version is not the final product.

The game is coming out in september for everyone to play.


People are "losing theirs minds" because this game was announced multi-platform and won't release on multiple platforms because of this new deal.

 

[panty]

But when the Destiny stuff happened, everyone said it was okay to have timed stuff.

Now this happens and everyone loses their minds?

Oh I didn't know Destiny won't be available on the Xbone.

 

[FrankT]

Well when MS offers to drive a dump truck full of money to you, that's one way of mitigating risk.

Haha Sterling out if his mind if he thinks Wii U is ahead of anything and next fall it will not be even close.

Stay classy Sterling haha.

 

[UnlovedJew]

But when the Destiny stuff happened, everyone said it was okay to have timed stuff.

Now this happens and everyone loses their minds?

Well, this is a bit bigger, given that it's a full game and not a multiplayer map. Also, apparently it may be fully exclusive.

 

[Cpt.Underpants]

Person that told me about many MS 'things' previously is telling me it's indeed a timed exclusive.

oh please be true

 

[Broadbandito]

You think they just did this for free?

They took the money they needed. And closed the door on the gold mine

 

[Kriken]

Uh no




no

And here I was reading through the entire thread seeing it as a full exclusive...

 

[ArkkAngel007]

Would people be upset about TR2's exclusivity if they didn't have an interest in it?

I'm just finding out about this, but was there some sort of demo shown that indicated it was bringing in elements from the classic titles (actual tomb exploration, platforming) to turn GAF mindshare around?

I could have sworn that Tomb Raider 2013/Tomb Raider: Definitive Edition was one of the most disappointing titles, if not despised, recently to much of GAF. The announcement at E3 was met with a rather collective meh as well.

So is this thing just about principle? That Microsoft is the one doing it (after reading a lot of Microsoft needs exclusives talk lately, even if it meant moneyhatting)?

I'm really wondering where this overall 180 on interest in the series is coming from and 69/70 pages of outrage when Quantum Break, something everyone was interested in and probably next to Bloodborne as Gamescom's Most Anticipated, discussion is barely a raindrop in a puddle in comparison.

With that said, I really hope what Shinobi was told is true and isn't too long. I have an Xbox One, but unless this is a Bayonetta 2, Titanfall situation, everyone should be able to enjoy it on the platform they want to.

 

[Ralemont]

But when the Destiny stuff happened, everyone said it was okay to have timed stuff.

Is that what everyone said?

 

[Nokagi]

But when the Destiny stuff happened, everyone said it was okay to have timed stuff.

Now this happens and everyone loses their minds?

Uh you might have something there if Destiny itself were a timed exclusive.

 

[GulAtiCa]

Just means it's another reason for me to perhaps pick up a Xbox One this fall. Already considering it for Halo Master Chief collection and Sunset Overdrive, this will be a nice addition for me to get for the system.