Dragon1893
Member
I wish they'd give corpses more weight, it's silly.
Anyway, I'll have to start saving money because this is the game that will make me buy a PS4.
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BLOODBORNE Impressions Thread : And so the Nightly Hunt Begins
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I wish they'd give corpses more weight, it's silly.
Anyway, I'll have to start saving money because this is the game that will make me buy a PS4.
Sparrowhawk
Member
I really don't understand this at all.
Stone Ocean
Member
So you wanted a Souls game to be a Souls game but didn't want it to be a Souls game, gotcha.
ThoughtsOfSpeaking
Banned
Mobile. Autocorrect.
No. But they do have a history of different styles of gameplay. I was hoping for a curveball
When has it been described by that as the developers?
Don't see why you can't have both in the same game honestly. The beauty of Ninja gaiden is it doesn't have to be fast and combo heavy. Some the best weapons have extremely slow start ups and cause tons of damage, while having that "weight" behind them.
See above.
DoubleTake
Member
Keep the ragdolls From!
And this. Is it just me but does this game look like it moved and controls much differently than Dark 2?
I would have expected them to use Dark 2's engine but it seems to me they're using a modified version of Demons/Dark1 which is a good thing in my opinion!
And this. Is it just me but does this game look like it moved and controls much differently than Dark 2?
I would have expected them to use Dark 2's engine but it seems to me they're using a modified version of Demons/Dark1 which is a good thing in my opinion!
Sparrowhawk
Member
Wear lighter armor.
Wow, all in all, not bad.
One thing though: It's the marketing departement which decides that the game should be 30FPS, not the developer.
SolidSnakex
Member
The game is faster than the Souls series, E3 impressions even indicated that. But aspects of the Souls games are still the backbone to the game. You still have a lot of animation priority which isn't something that'd go too well in a character action game like DMC or Ninja Gaiden.
Where'd you get that from?
heliconsoul
Member
I'm sure it is.
Red Liquorice
Member
From Soft A-Team in effect, Umbasa!
So the gun has limited bullets, makes it sound similar to using the Estus with it's limited chugs. I like this.
ThoughtsOfSpeaking
Banned
I was hoping for a character action game where the protag is Nimble and agile but every enemy is a threat and one mistake can kill, without feeling cheap.
DoubleTake
Member
This is really what I'm hoping for! Bring back the fair and not broke hitboxes/enemy tracking of the old games with improvements like cloth physics from Dark 2 engine slapped on top. I think you can already see that's what they've done looking at how the character moves around/backsteps. Also the fact that weapons now appear on your back when you unequip them! I'd be sooo happy if this turns out to be the case.
ThoughtsOfSpeaking
Banned
I'll take your word for it. I obviously got the wrong impression from watching previous videos. No biggie.
Logical thinking. And if you don't believe me, read here: http://www.insomniacgames.com/how-much-does-framerate-matter/
Decision making process is probably similar for other developers as well.
Cause we have seen enough footage to rule out fast and nimble builds?
SolidSnakex
Member
Where do they say that marketing decides that? Insomniac as a developer decided that 60fps wasn't worth it. Mike Action wrote that and he was the engine director for Insomniac.
Red Liquorice
Member
You were probably wearing too much armour or using giant slow weapons, the movement in Souls is zippy and streamlined or slow and hulking depending on your gear - but it's always on point (well not DS2, but the first two games).
DrROBschiz
Member
Technically
Bloodborne will be the fastest and Nimblest game in the series. But it still will adhere to the realistic physics the series is know for.
Realistically weighted characters, animations etc.. You wont see the Ninja Gaiden/Bayonetta stuff here man. Not gonna happen.
Whatever guy, you seem amazingly misinformed.
MR ARCADE FOREVER
Member
That short video looks amazing. The atmosphere Holy cow
fluffydelusions
Member
Where is that guy from the other thread that said he would do anything to get us footage lol
I found Demon Souls to be harder than Dark Souls. But that might just be me personally.
Market research /= marketing.
DrROBschiz
Member
Even the original Dark Souls could be played in a nimble and speedy fashion.
It depended heavily on the weapons you use and the weight associated with them (armor included)
It IS however in the style of realistic physics. Characters are grounded and dont double jump/wall jump etc.
There is a clear distinction between Arcade style and Realistic style with stuff like God of War/Castlevania LOS falling somewhere in the middle
Expect quick attacks, dodge rolls, back steps, side steps etc..
It depended heavily on the weapons you use and the weight associated with them (armor included)
It IS however in the style of realistic physics. Characters are grounded and dont double jump/wall jump etc.
There is a clear distinction between Arcade style and Realistic style with stuff like God of War/Castlevania LOS falling somewhere in the middle
Expect quick attacks, dodge rolls, back steps, side steps etc..
Don't be so focused on his position in the company. It's still a marketing decision. His argumentation is identical to what a marketeer would present.
sublimit
Banned
Probably in the Sony dungeon too.
It would've been nice if Sony made something like Nintendo's Treehouse event and "officially" demonstrated some of their games. :/
DrROBschiz
Member
60 would have been really cool
But judging from some of the Visual I am seeing it looks like they want to balance High fidelity and framerate.
If they can Lock things down to 30 solid Ill be pretty happy. Aw hell Ill be happy even if the game dips here and there. Just no blighttown areas please
Its weird how much they are holding back for a game that is 6 months away.... I wonder if a delay is inevitable
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
With how crazy gamescom is you only have one chance to allude the Sony guards and film gameplay.
Its going to be damn hard to find any footage. At least we have words....
Well, the development of this DID start soon after Dark Souls 1, so it's not that surprising it's so close to release this early in the generation.
DrROBschiz
Member
I am sincerely hoping they have a few authorized media outlets to give footage to...
Maybe even a complete demo walkthrough
That's asking a lot. They're already stretched thin putting all their manpower on the show floor to stop people from filming anything which would get their games more attention!
Well, I doubt there's anything inherent in the design that calls for 30 fps or that would be ruined by 60 fps, seeing as Dark Souls 2 probably worked just as well at 60 fps on PC. It would just look and play smoother. It's really just a graphical trade-off, and how optimized the engine is. No developer is targeting 30 fps because it feels or plays better at 30. If they could take their exact same game and have it run at 60 they would. The whole fps is for FPSs thing and 60 would not be right for this game/genre is off-base.
Watch the trailer again, he parries the big fat guy.
IAmRandom31
Banned
Highly doubtful.
These are the guys who created Demons Souls, on both sides, so they will naturally build a new engine that has the same overall weight and feel of the original product, especially when it is done on purpose as homage to the work they did before.
I think this is a completely new engine that From will likely use throughout the generation. With obvious homages to Demons Souls
lol. I'm sure they are saving the suspense for when they announce this Gamescom Demo to be released on PSN come November for all to play and worship.
TheCongressman1
Member
This is very exciting to me. Does anyone have a source for that?
Bloodborne is going to be the game that gets me to buy a PS4 when it comes out. The game looks beautiful. I could really care less about framerate drops as long as it doesn't drastically affect gameplay (i.e. Blighttown in DS1).
That being said, ragdoll physics are completely stupid. Killing a huge knight in DS1 and then kicking it down a hallway as you run is ridiculous. Removing it in DS2 was the right decision. Putting it back in Bloodborne is not.
It's a minor thing but something that always annoyed me about DS1 and took away some of the immersion factor, IMO.
That being said, ragdoll physics are completely stupid. Killing a huge knight in DS1 and then kicking it down a hallway as you run is ridiculous. Removing it in DS2 was the right decision. Putting it back in Bloodborne is not.
It's a minor thing but something that always annoyed me about DS1 and took away some of the immersion factor, IMO.
David Incorporated Esq.
Member
I love seeing that people are more excited for the insane rag-doll than the game itself.
Because that's exactly how I feel. Nothing beats rolling into corpses and getting them stuck in your armpits.
Because that's exactly how I feel. Nothing beats rolling into corpses and getting them stuck in your armpits.