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Media Create Sales: Week 36, 2014 (Sep 01 - Sep 07)

It's also interesting to see how much YW2 has sold this week. Reports of sold-outs in Japan made me think the game is still widely popular.

It's probably a bad game anyway. Watch the anime though, it's really cool!

I'm watching it (that's why I was also curious about the game performance). Sometimes, if you like a show, the game might seem better that how actually is ;)
 

hiska-kun

Member
There's no place in Japan that has stock of Super Smash Bros at the moment. Yodabashi have the next shipment for the 20th. The other shops (Bic Camera, Tsutaya and Yamada Denki) just undetermined.
They're promoting the download codes instead.

On the other hand, Dragon Quest X has stock everywhere. So or SE sent a big shipment or the demand slowed down.

Destiny is not facing stock problems either.

Some shops have stock problems for Youkai Watch (Tsutaya completly sold out, the other shops just one version).
 

Oregano

Member
I think the biggest problem facing the n3DS is the (lack) of third party support for it. There's just very little in terms of third party releases in the future. I think this is what we're looking at for potential 200K+ releases:

Monster Hunter 4G
Final Fantasy Explorers
Bravely Second
One Piece Super Grand Battle X
Popolocrois Farm Story

That might even be very generous to the last two.

Out of those only two are using n3DS features as well. The only hope is that Nintendo can convince Level 5 to introduce NFC features to Yokai Watch 3.
 

DrWong

Member
There's no place in Japan that has stock of Super Smash Bros at the moment. Yodabashi have the next shipment for the 20th. The other shops (Bic Camera, Tsutaya and Yamada Denki) just undetermined.
They're promoting the download codes instead.

On the other hand, Dragon Quest X has stock everywhere. So or SE sent a big shipment or the demand slowed down.

Destiny is not facing stock problems either.

Some shops have stock problems for Youkai Watch (Tsutaya completly sold out, the other shops just one version).

AAA: big budget, big stock.
 
I think the biggest problem facing the n3DS is the (lack) of third party support for it. There's just very little in terms of third party releases in the future. I think this is what we're looking at for potential 200K+ releases:

Monster Hunter 4G
Final Fantasy Explorers
Bravely Second
One Piece Super Grand Battle X
Popolocrois Farm Story

That might even be very generous to the last two.

Out of those only two are using n3DS features as well. The only hope is that Nintendo can convince Level 5 to introduce NFC features to Yokai Watch 3.

Keep in mind that 3DS has widely proven to have 200k+ releases that no one thought they would have sold so much (e.g. Disney Magical Castle, Run for the Money, Fantasy Life, the last Aikatsu game, Bravely Default...). You might think of some new L5 game, some Bandai Namco tie-in, and kids game by Nippon Columbia or something like that. I can also imagine a new Rune Factory will sell as much.

Anyway, there are also Dai Gyakuten Saiban (and likely Ace Attorney 6), Derby Stallion Gold (the last one on DS sold 300k or so), Aikatsu! 365 Idol Days.
 

Atram

Member
I think the biggest problem facing the n3DS is the (lack) of third party support for it. There's just very little in terms of third party releases in the future. I think this is what we're looking at for potential 200K+ releases:

Monster Hunter 4G
Final Fantasy Explorers
Bravely Second
One Piece Super Grand Battle X
Popolocrois Farm Story

That might even be very generous to the last two.

Out of those only two are using n3DS features as well. The only hope is that Nintendo can convince Level 5 to introduce NFC features to Yokai Watch 3.

This post sounds like there will be no Games in 2015.
 

random25

Member
There's no place in Japan that has stock of Super Smash Bros at the moment. Yodabashi have the next shipment for the 20th. The other shops (Bic Camera, Tsutaya and Yamada Denki) just undetermined.
They're promoting the download codes instead.

On the other hand, Dragon Quest X has stock everywhere. So or SE sent a big shipment or the demand slowed down.

Destiny is not facing stock problems either.

Some shops have stock problems for Youkai Watch (Tsutaya completly sold out, the other shops just one version).

Youkai Watch 2 train is not stopping it seems. Go for 3 million!
 

RalchAC

Member
Haikyuu!! is super popular, especially since its anime began airing. The manga volumes do over 600k per volume, and the first Blu-ray/DVD was the second best selling last season doing 32k. It also sells truckloads of merchandise and has a huge female following.

Is this series the new Kuroko no Basket? I remember that series did quite well when the anime was airing and had quite a big female following.

I'm kind of curious what does Jump has now that Naruto is about to end... I'll look for some info.

Do we have any pre-order numbers for the 3DS Kuroko game? It could be interesting to see the numbers since both may appeal to kind of similar audiences.
 
Is this series the new Kuroko no Basket? I remember that series did quite well when the anime was airing and had quite a big female following.

I'm kind of curious what does Jump has now that Naruto is about to end... I'll look for some info.

Do we have any pre-order numbers for the 3DS Kuroko game? It could be interesting to see the numbers since both may appeal to kind of similar audiences.

Well its actually possible Naruto could get a third series. Naruto Shippuuden is ending for sure.
 

casiopao

Member
I think the biggest problem facing the n3DS is the (lack) of third party support for it. There's just very little in terms of third party releases in the future. I think this is what we're looking at for potential 200K+ releases:

Monster Hunter 4G
Final Fantasy Explorers
Bravely Second
One Piece Super Grand Battle X
Popolocrois Farm Story

That might even be very generous to the last two.

Out of those only two are using n3DS features as well. The only hope is that Nintendo can convince Level 5 to introduce NFC features to Yokai Watch 3.

Ummm. U are acting like that is the only thing going to come out on 3ds next year here.

Don't forget Kenka Bancho, Kinki no Magna and other game can still be coming here.
 

RalchAC

Member
Well its actually possible Naruto could get a third series. Naruto Shippuuden is ending for sure.

That "New Era" project they were talking about?

They'll need to add new characters. I mean, they power scale have been through the roof for a while. I don't think they can continue making more powerful enemies.

If they change protagonists, I don't think Naruto will be able to keep the same selling power it previously had. IMO it will sell from 300 to 500k units (max).

And we could see it moved to the Jump SQ, it's not the first time some movement like this happens .
 
That "New Era" project they were talking about?

They'll need to add new characters. I mean, they power scale have been through the roof for a while. I don't think they can continue making more powerful enemies.

If they change protagonists, I don't think Naruto will be able to keep the same selling power it previously had. IMO it will sell from 300 to 500k units (max).

And we could see it moved to the Jump SQ, it's not the first time some movement like this happens .

Here's the top 10 for 2014 first half:

01) Shingeki no Kyojin (8,342,268)
02) One PIece (4,936,855)
03) Kuroko no Basket (4,616,040)
04) Naruto (3,247,920)
05) Magi (3,085,177)
06) Hôzuki no Reitetsu (3,060,694)
07) Daiya no Ace (2,914,977)
08) Gin no Saji - Silver Spoon (2,875,863)
09) Ansatsu Kyôshitsu (2,795,169)
10) Nisekoi (2,418,041)

I don;t know how it compares with previous years but is Naruto even slowing down or is it staying around the same mark each year?
 

Oregano

Member
This post sounds like there will be no Games in 2015.

Well I think unless Nintendo has managed to generate more interest with third parties for the n3DS than they're letting on that we're going to have significantly less releases than past years. The DS' last two years saw a really big drop in support in favour of the PSP and I suspect we've reached that point for 3DS now.

Ummm. U are acting like that is the only thing going to come out on 3ds next year here.

Don't forget Kenka Bancho, Kinki no Magna and other game can still be coming here.

Those games are going to be small time though.

Keep in mind that 3DS has widely proven to have 200k+ releases that no one thought they would have sold so much (e.g. Disney Magical Castle, Run for the Money, Fantasy Life, the last Aikatsu game, Bravely Default...). You might think of some new L5 game, some Bandai Namco tie-in, and kids game by Nippon Columbia or something like that. I can also imagine a new Rune Factory will sell as much.

Anyway, there are also Dai Gyakuten Saiban (and likely Ace Attorney 6), Derby Stallion Gold (the last one on DS sold 300k or so), Aikatsu! 365 Idol Days.

That is an excellent point. There are probably a few releases that will blow up. I'm not sure we'll be seeing Rune Factory for a while(and I wouldn't be surprised if when it returned it wasn't on the 3DS).

The Ace Attorney game(s) completely slipped my mind to be honest, that's another strong release from Capcom. I'm not really familiar with the other two.
 
That is an excellent point. There are probably a few releases that will blow up. I'm not sure we'll be seeing Rune Factory for a while(and I wouldn't be surprised if when it returned it wasn't on the 3DS).

The Ace Attorney game(s) completely slipped my mind to be honest, that's another strong release from Capcom. I'm not really familiar with the other two.

I'm sure RF5 will show up next year; RF4 sold over 200k in Japan alone, and was quite successful in North America as well. Kinki no Magna (developed by ex-Neverland) seems a quite small project, that might leave time to the team to start working on RF.

Dai Gyakuten Saiban might easily sell over 200k, and it's a 2015 release. Aikatsu is slated for a December release, and 150-200k units are a lock.

After all, up to July we didn't know the 3DS would have had a +3m units title this year :p
 

RalchAC

Member
Here's the top 10 for 2014 first half:

01) Shingeki no Kyojin (8,342,268)
02) One PIece (4,936,855)
03) Kuroko no Basket (4,616,040)
04) Naruto (3,247,920)
05) Magi (3,085,177)
06) Hôzuki no Reitetsu (3,060,694)
07) Daiya no Ace (2,914,977)
08) Gin no Saji - Silver Spoon (2,875,863)
09) Ansatsu Kyôshitsu (2,795,169)
10) Nisekoi (2,418,041)

I don;t know how it compares with previous years but is Naruto even slowing down or is it staying around the same mark each year?

Mmmm... Naruto usually sells 1 million / volume. So I'd say it's averaging the same as it's been lately with the difference that there aren't many new readers catching up with the series.

SnK probably is selling so much because there is a lot of people buying the older volumes as it reaches new audiences. That's a quite common part of the "anime effect".

Assassination Classroom could explode once the anime starts too. The series was doing some crazy numbers since the first volume released.

Why Gintama isn't on that list? D:
 

casiopao

Member
Well I think unless Nintendo has managed to generate more interest with third parties for the n3DS than they're letting on that we're going to have significantly less releases than past years. The DS' last two years saw a really big drop in support in favour of the PSP and I suspect we've reached that point for 3DS now.

But this time, they don't have PSP anymore. Vita won't be able to bring huge sales for huge IP. 3ds is the only able here. Except for mobile maybe. Not to mention, Vita owner is more niche market rather than main stream.

Consoles had also fallen to the pithole which does not seem to see any recovery chances at all.
 

Oregano

Member
I'm sure RF5 will show up next year; RF4 sold over 200k in Japan alone, and was quite successful in North America as well. Kinki no Magna (developed by ex-Neverland) seems a quite small project, that might leave time to the team to start working on RF.

Dai Gyakuten Saiban might easily sell over 200k, and it's a 2015 release. Aikatsu is slated for a December release, and 150-200k units are a lock.

After all, up to July we didn't know the 3DS would have had a +3m units title this year :p

IIRC some of the important Rune Factory staff didn't join Marvelous after Neverland went bust so they might still be reluctant to continue on with it. I don't think the series is dead by any means but I suspect they will take their time to consider where to take it.

But this time, they don't have PSP anymore. Vita won't be able to bring huge sales for huge IP. 3ds is the only able here. Except for mobile maybe. Not to mention, Vita owner is more niche market rather than main stream.

Consoles had also fallen to the pithole which does not seem to see any recovery chances at all.

I don't think 3DS is going to lose the massive releases to Vita but any software aiming for 500K or lower can attain that on Vita. I think we are seeing an uptick in support as well, especially from Capcom(if Revelations 2 is in fact on Vita) and Square Enix(Rise of Mana, Chaos Rings, Deadman's Cross and a possible secret exclusive). Meanwhile on 3DS we're seeing support stall, or even slow down.
 

L~A

Member
Don't we get the "next year looks pretty barren for the 3DS" discussions every year?...

Anyway, looks like that F2P Intial D game on 3DS was downloaded over 400k times? And Denpa Ningen no RPG Free! was recently updated to 1.2... looks like it's doing well.
 
Mmmm... Naruto usually sells 1 million / volume. So I'd say it's averaging the same as it's been lately with the difference that there aren't many new readers catching up with the series.

SnK probably is selling so much because there is a lot of people buying the older volumes as it reaches new audiences. That's a quite common part of the "anime effect".

Assassination Classroom could explode once the anime starts too. The series was doing some crazy numbers since the first volume released.

Why Gintama isn't on that list? D:

Yeah my understanding is that Naruto has a dedicated and large fan base although the time for the series to grow is gone (at least as a manga). Still its Shounen Jumps 2nd most popular franchise iirc.
 

RalchAC

Member
But this time, they don't have PSP anymore. Vita won't be able to bring huge sales for huge IP. 3ds is the only able here. Except for mobile maybe. Not to mention, Vita owner is more niche market rather than main stream.

Consoles had also fallen to the pithole which does not seem to see any recovery chances at all.

Well, they could offer PS3/4/Vita as a bullet point or something.

What "huge IPs" do you mean, though? I can only think of stuff like RE, MGS, Final Fantasy, Tales, Yakuza and not much more. Others like DQ, MH (or Nintendo owned IPs) don't look like they could hit the Vita anytime soon.

We may see some SMT games releasing on PS4/3/Vita after the arrival of Persona 5 to HD platforms. But that's not a huge IP.
 

Oregano

Member
Don't we get the "next year looks pretty barren for the 3DS" discussions every year?...

Anyway, looks like that F2P Intial D game on 3DS was downloaded over 400k times? And Denpa Ningen no RPG Free! was recently updated to 1.2... looks like it's doing well.

I did make a similar argument last year and I'd say that 2014 was pretty light in terms of third party support. We had the DQM2 remake, Story of Seasons, Persona Q and the massive Yokai Watch 2 but not much else in the first three quarters of the year. Monster Hunter 4G, One Piece & Final Fantasy Explorers are decent holiday support though.

FFEX is a really odd one though. SE seemed content to have 3DS as their Bravely Default and Dragon Quest remake machine. Now they have a new (relatively) high profile FF spinoff on the way and an eShop release on the original FF.
 
IIRC some of the important Rune Factory staff didn't join Marvelous after Neverland went bust so they might still be reluctant to continue on with it. I don't think the series is dead by any means but I suspect they will take their time to consider where to take it.



I don't think 3DS is going to lose the massive releases to Vita but any software aiming for 500K or lower can attain that on Vita. I think we are seeing an uptick in support as well, especially from Capcom(if Revelations 2 is in fact on Vita) and Square Enix(Rise of Mana, Chaos Rings, Deadman's Cross and a possible secret exclusive). Meanwhile on 3DS we're seeing support stall, or even slow down.
RE vs MH4

FFEX/BD2 vs mobile ports

yeah 3ds support is definitely slowing down in favor of vita support.
 

Bruno MB

Member
For this week we have Super Smash Bros. for 3DS, Destiny and their effect on hardware sales, specially the latter due to the PS4 Glacier White bundle. Also, although its fate is completely sealed (poor console never had a chance), I'm curious about Xbox One second week of sales (I'm ready for an utter catastrophe).

Here's my predictions:

[3DS] Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS (Nintendo) - 845.000
[PS4] Destiny (Sony Computer Entertainment) - 95.000
[PS3] Destiny (Sony Computer Entertainment) - 70.000

[3DS] Hardware - 43.000
[PS4] Hardware - 14.000
[XBO] Hardware - 4.500
 

hiska-kun

Member
For this week we have Super Smash Bros. for 3DS, Destiny and their effect on hardware sales, specially the latter due to the PS4 Glacier White bundle. Also, although its fate is completely sealed (poor console never had a chance), I'm curious about Xbox One second week of sales (I'm ready for an utter catastrophe).

Here's my predictions:

[3DS] Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS (Nintendo) - 845.000
[PS4] Destiny (Sony Computer Entertainment) - 95.000
[PS3] Destiny (Sony Computer Entertainment) - 70.000

[3DS] Hardware - 43.000
[PS4] Hardware - 14.000
[XBO] Hardware - 4.500

My prediction:

[3DS] Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS (Nintendo) - 909.000
[PS4] Destiny (Sony Computer Entertainment) - 120.000
[PS3] Destiny (Sony Computer Entertainment) - 85.000

[3DS] Hardware - 48.000
[PS4] Hardware - 19.000
[XBO] Hardware - 4.000
 

Oregano

Member
RE vs MH4

FFEX/BD2 vs mobile ports

yeah 3ds support is definitely slowing down in favor of vita support.

As I said 3DS is still getting the biggest games but its quantity of releases is decreasing from previous years. Vita is getting a higher quantity of releases and some bigger games.

I'd also say those mobile ports are probably equivalent to FFEX and Bravely Second in scope though. They're just not Vita exclusive.

Anyway I think we're falling into a 3DS vs Vita thing which wasn't really my point. My point was that n3DS uptake is going to be held back by a lack of releases for 3DS and even less of those releases will take advantage of the n3DS.
 

Oregano

Member
Well stability at the current level is pretty horrible.

I think a lack of releases is the problem in the west too, especially when you compare to mobiles. There's new games every week(or even every day) on mobiles but the 3DS has been going two of three months between worthwhile releases.
 
As I said 3DS is still getting the biggest games but its quantity of releases is decreasing from previous years. Vita is getting a higher quantity of releases and some bigger games.

I'd also say those mobile ports are probably equivalent to FFEX and Bravely Second in scope though. They're just not Vita exclusive.

Anyway I think we're falling into a 3DS vs Vita thing which wasn't really my point. My point was that n3DS uptake is going to be held back by a lack of releases for 3DS and even less of those releases will take advantage of the n3DS.
The year hasn't even ended, not sure how you can be so sure of the 3ds' 2015 lineup already.

They might be in the same scope like you think, but FFEX and BD will do more for the 3ds, than those vita ports.

Did we go back 30 years when Nintendo has never released a handheld revision before? We've seen what revisions do for consoles, they give them a second breathe of life, nothing more and nothing less. Exclusive games for the new revision will be insignificant, how well it sells depends more on games thats made for all 3ds systems (99% of future 3ds releases).

It'll sell just fine, I'm not sure why you're even worried about its sales.
 

Oregano

Member
Did we go back 30 years when Nintendo has never released a handheld revision before? We've seen what revisions do for consoles, they give them a second breathe of life, nothing more and nothing less. Exclusive games for the new revision will be insignificant, how well it sells depends more on games thats made for all 3ds systems (99% of future 3ds releases).

It'll sell just fine, I'm not sure why you're even worried about its sales.

Oh I'm not concerned that it's going to drop like a rock or anything but I don't think it's uptake will be as strong as suggested. I'm still not sure it offers enough of an incentive for current 3DS owners and I don't think there will be enough software taking advantage of the n3DS features. DSi had DSiware which had hundreds of releases, including an exclusive Dragon Quest spin off and a bunch of nifty new features.
 

L~A

Member
Media Create:


3DS LL 31,602
PS4 23,623
Vita 12,331
3DS 7,967
Wii U 7,062
PS3 6,083
Xbox One 3,015
Vita TV 817
PSP 101
Xbox 360 96



Smash at 944k
 
Oh I'm not concerned that it's going to drop like a rock or anything but I don't think it's uptake will be as strong as suggested. I'm still not sure it offers enough of an incentive for current 3DS owners and I don't think there will be enough software taking advantage of the n3DS features. DSi had DSiware which had hundreds of releases, including an exclusive Dragon Quest spin off and a bunch of nifty new features.

DSi was huge improvement on DSLite form factory - and that's why it sold so well.

Most people buying it probable never even heard about DSiware titles before buying it.
 
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