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He is surprised because it's even worse than he was expecting.
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Media Create Sales: Week 37, 2014 (Sep 08 - Sep 14)
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He is surprised because it's even worse than he was expecting.
SwiftDeath
Member
Well assuming it's Bayonetta, it was always destined to bomb.
That will depend on how big was the shipment. Smash has been sold out for almost the whole week.
Unfortunately I'm on mobile, so I don't have any links on hand. However there are both tweets and interviews that indicate something to that nature around if anyone has those links.
SwiftDeath
Member
No worries. I'll just try to do some googling of it
So what do you guys think the chances are that we get a second Tales game in 2015 that isn't Zestiria.
It's the series 20th year anniversary, and it had two mainline titles release on its 10th year anniversary which was the first time it ever happened, so it could happen again. It was also the first time in over 15 years we had two years go by without a mainline title, which could by explained because they were working on two games.
It could maybe explain why Baba is so adamant keeping Zestiria a PS3 exclusive, so they then announce a bigger one for PS4 after it's released.
We had a guy on gaf who works on video game music and Verendus mention Tales of PS4 the otherday, which got me thinking about this.
It's the series 20th year anniversary, and it had two mainline titles release on its 10th year anniversary which was the first time it ever happened, so it could happen again. It was also the first time in over 15 years we had two years go by without a mainline title, which could by explained because they were working on two games.
It could maybe explain why Baba is so adamant keeping Zestiria a PS3 exclusive, so they then announce a bigger one for PS4 after it's released.
We had a guy on gaf who works on video game music and Verendus mention Tales of PS4 the otherday, which got me thinking about this.
uncredited male
Member
Eventually you get whittled down to only so many options.
I remember Iwata saying the strategy of Nintendo was to "put smiles on people's faces." Things such as the UI and general tone of their consoles are very "in your face" about it, like Miis, light-hearted music, colors. That shop-keeper who bows at you before going on the 3DS e-Shop. Vastly different from the 360 and PS4, when I boot up those machines, they seem to want to "conduct business" with me instead, with ads and offers to buy digital content right on the same screen as the selection to start a game, and for the PS4 even, a serious ambiance to the background music and dark blue colors to accentuate that they mean business, haha! This consumer psychology stuff is nothing I know about though. But I can say that there is a definite difference to the tone I feel when using Nintendo's platforms versus others, even compared to how they were with N64 and Gamecube, a difference that perhaps skews which games I now associate with the machines and the brand. It's neat though that for Nintendo, they can push for a quirky game such as Tomodachi Life and have that be a top seller on their platform, without people thinking it's unusual for them to do that
I remember Iwata saying the strategy of Nintendo was to "put smiles on people's faces." Things such as the UI and general tone of their consoles are very "in your face" about it, like Miis, light-hearted music, colors. That shop-keeper who bows at you before going on the 3DS e-Shop. Vastly different from the 360 and PS4, when I boot up those machines, they seem to want to "conduct business" with me instead, with ads and offers to buy digital content right on the same screen as the selection to start a game, and for the PS4 even, a serious ambiance to the background music and dark blue colors to accentuate that they mean business, haha! This consumer psychology stuff is nothing I know about though. But I can say that there is a definite difference to the tone I feel when using Nintendo's platforms versus others, even compared to how they were with N64 and Gamecube, a difference that perhaps skews which games I now associate with the machines and the brand. It's neat though that for Nintendo, they can push for a quirky game such as Tomodachi Life and have that be a top seller on their platform, without people thinking it's unusual for them to do that
I agree a lot with what u are saying there here. While Ninty Eshop is still lacking especially on account front, I can't said that I had been numerously charmed by all little things they had there.
The store mascot which actually is playing with us by peeking and playing around our Download marbles, a special rabbit Mii on trying to sell us all the Mii games, Music pumping around makes Eshop looks and sounds more cherful compared to the very business like Sony and MS ones.
One of my favorite scene is when I am transfering my Wii data to Wii U and 3ds to another 3ds transfer.
Unlike others would simply only put a bar, Ninty makes Pikmin lift the thing to us and ride a rocket to a new planet called Wii U lol.
That is sooo damn charming for me.
There is no way we're getting a PS4 Tales game in 2015. We could possibly get an escort title, but I wouldn't expect more than a mobile title.That being said, if Namco Bandai announces another release of ToP I'm going to be pissed.
Hero of Legend
Member
Phantasia 3D, BELIEVE!!!
Hey if SE can do it with FF1, why the hell not? I'd love it! *whistles*...
Nightengale
Member
The only PS4 Tales title I can see feasible in 2015 is a HD port of one of the existing PS3 games.
Otherwise, no way. Baba doesn't have the manpower for it.
Otherwise, no way. Baba doesn't have the manpower for it.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
Yeah saw that. Wouldn't be surprised if a PS4 Tales game is in dev already though I reckon a 2016 release is what will happen.
There is a chance Zestiria will be ported to PS4 hopefully by the time of its localisation.
It's incredible. Super Smash Bros for 3DS is still sold out at almost every shop in Japan.
Yamada Denki:
The game is sold out, pre-order it! And also pre-order MH4G, Pokemon and New 3DS!
品切れ中=Sold Out
Bic Camera:
Pokemon and Monster Hunter 4G are the main games.
Wanna play Smash too? Ok, just buy the download card.
Digital sales for September will be very interesting.
Yamada Denki:
The game is sold out, pre-order it! And also pre-order MH4G, Pokemon and New 3DS!
品切れ中=Sold Out
Bic Camera:
Pokemon and Monster Hunter 4G are the main games.
Wanna play Smash too? Ok, just buy the download card.
Digital sales for September will be very interesting.
Cheesecakebobby
Banned
In akiba I saw a store selling xbones with 5000 yen cut off the price. Might have been preowned but looked sealed. That's still a bigger discount than other consoles get even when obviously used...
We'll still have to see if Sony is able to convince them to release a PS4 port. It may not launch in January, but being on both platforms will surely help them in the West.
Otherwise, they could release a port of a old game or something. Vesperia should work nicely, the art style holds up quite well and it's like 5 years old. The Xillia subsaga isn't that old (3 and 2 years old) and those shitty fields won't hold up as well as the overworld and dungeons in Vesperia. Graces could work too, but it isn't as loved as the other.
And most of the older games have already received remakes or ports. And are 2D if you don't count Symphonia (already released on PS3) and Abyss (already released on 3DS).
They could always knock at Omega Force door and ask them to develop a "to not give up, even if you have to fight against hordes of enemies RPG" (that totally isn't a musou) for PS4 first. Those guys alone are already making like half of the games announced for next-gen. One more won't matter lol.
You say that like they aren't willing to remake or port the games again.
The_lascar
Member
It's a little late, but it could be interesting to make a special prediction league with YTD for Smash 3DS, Youkai Watch 2, Monster Hunter 4G and Pokémon OR/AS, since these four games are all the challengers to become the 2014 #1.
That's a special trait that only Phantasia gets
Well, they could try to do what they did with Symphonia. The PS2 port (version they used for the HD remaster) have some extra contents that weren't voiced in English. Instead of hiring a new dub, they just gave people Dual Audio and didn't recorded any new lines.
Still, I don't know what to say. Namco is lately being on a roll with localizations and all that. But I think this game shouldn't be subbed in French, German, Italian and Spanish. Is an HD version of an old game and the original only had English subs. Making 4 new localizations for a HD remaster is not wise and they may lose money.
The problem is that people will bash the game if it is English only. <-- Obviously a smaller problem than losing money though
To be fair Mojang was really slow in bringing Minecraft to all platform, and the Vita version probably only happened because they were already working with Sony. From what I gather they've tried to make it as easy as possible to move code across their platforms. But yes the Wii U could really need a Minecraft port, but I doubt it's going to happen now even if MS says they'll keep it multiplatform for now. What they really should have done though is a 3DS version.
it's interesting how probably will be the 3DS to put the Wii U to rest, with the Smash nail to the coffin.
Pennywise83
Banned
So, the next Kenka Bancho game has been unveiled on Famitsu. It's Kenka Bancho 6 for 3DS. Sales of previous entries:
It's a 130-150,000 units series, not bad.
- Kenka Bancho (PS2, 2005) - 108,958 (+34,718 budget version)
- Kenka Bancho 2: Full Throttle (PS2, 2007) - 85,632
- Kenka Bancho: Badass Rumble (PSP, 2008) - 141,627 (+31,774 budget version)
- Kenka Bancho Portable (PSP, 2009) - 28,295
- Kenka Bancho 4: Ichinen Sensou (PSP, 2010) - 179,354 (+38,339 budget version)
- Kenka Bancho 5: Otoku no Rule (PSP, 2011) - 137,146 (+22,998 budget version)
- Kenka Bancho Bros.: Tokyo Battle Royale (PSP, 2012) - 56,776
It's a 130-150,000 units series, not bad.
ZSaberLink
Media Create Maven
What numbers are people thinking FF Explorers could do? Also this year will be insane for 3ds software. We've already had 3 titles sell over 1m this year (YW1, YW2, Smash 3ds). Pokemon and MH4U to join them barring something weird.
Good to see Smash 3ds do well in Japan.
Good to see Smash 3ds do well in Japan.
Pennywise83
Banned
Imo, around 200-300k, helped by holidays.
yes: looking at Crystal Chronicles on the DS (259 up to 389 it seems) I'd say the same.
Also revealed in Famitsu is Ukiyo no Shishi (憂世ノ志士
for PS3 and Ukiyo no Roushi (憂世ノ浪士 for Vita. This is the "Not Way of the Samurai" project which was teased during the recent SCEJA Press Conference.http://www.famitsu.com/news/201409/23062116.html
And apparently PS4 is getting a port of this. Coming out in December 18.
That's even worse for Nintendo. Overshipping a bomba is a good way for publishers to shift more of the loss to retailers instead of eating it themselves. Like what happened with ASH. Lol.
I am 400k ground here as this is the only big and truthful Raid game genre which is released on 3ds especially after Mon Hun 4G here.
Nah I doubt it. Sure, the 3DS version will sell more at the end of both lifetimes, but Wii U version will still sell great worldwide IMO.
Also revealed in Famitsu is Ukiyo no Shishi (憂世ノ志士
http://www.famitsu.com/news/201409/23062116.html
And apparently PS4 is getting a port of this. Coming out in December 18.
What's that waifu game?
Kresnik258
Member
Ukiyo no Roushi (憂世ノ浪士
Any more info on what this actually is? And why it's "not" Way of the Samurai?
Well, I was actually speaking about Japan.
Ano Ko wa Ore kara Hanarenai.
http://www.play.tgl.jp/anoore/
Sorry, I don't have any more info. We'll have to wait until Famitsu goes on sale this Thursday. I'm simply calling it "Not Way of the Samurai" because the teaser trailer showed "New Project ≠ Way of the Samurai" at the end.
I think a game like bayonetta 2 made a lot more sense for nintendo when their general market prospects were better. When the wii u had a shot at being the next wii ("is there any reason the wii u won't dominate Japan", basically), financing and publishing Bayonetta 2 was a clear move at cultivating a core audience and attracting a core demographic. It makes less sense when the system is comatose (the marginal benefit of the title is infinitesimal at this point and the marginal cost is significant) but it is still nice to have the game, of course.
I think it probably took too long to come out. I guess it really wasn't far along at all when it was announced.
I think it probably took too long to come out. I guess it really wasn't far along at all when it was announced.
Samsh wouldn't be #1 as I don't think it will sell more than YK2 (probably ~2.5 mil to ~3 mil). MH 4G probably won't make it either. It's up to the old champ (Pokemon) to beat the new champ (YK2).
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
Ever the optimists, you lol
frankie_baby
Member
I could see it eventually hitting 500k
That's the root problem for the WiiU right there. Every single game. And the impact it has had on the hardware also shows that.
So far, I've yet to see anything about Famitsu's print issue at all. Nothing about it yet, just the content already posted on Famitsu.com.
Just like every other game.
I'm not. I expect many to get a used WiiU instead to play Bayonetta 2.
