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[Mory Dunz]

I think it's clear with the PS4's upcoming lineup that it could potentially see a pseudo-PS3 revival and reach like 8-10 million...maybe.

Not specifically you, but I've seen something along these lines thown around some. Whether it's 6-10 million or whatever for LTD PS4:


Do people then think that the PS4 will outsell the Vita in Japan? Because that's what it's kind of sounding like.


My answer is no right now. But maybe new evidence will force me to change my opinion.

 

[Fularu]

By 2016 which will have sold more in Japan, PS4 or New 3DS?

New 3DS will probably have a higher ltd by year's end than PS4, let alone 2016

 

[djtiesto]

While I'm not going to do every game since that's a bit time consuming and they usually get threads or information in the thread anyway, would people still like me to cover the newer mobile games (especially the bigger ones) as they get announced?

I ask since I notice some previews are starting to come out about what people actually showed off in TGS conferences on the mobile front, since most places focused on console game reporting at the actual time.

I might do a slightly different format since I can't read Japanese and some of these are probably better explained in a different format. I can try to do a more informative job with less titles to boot.

I'd rather you didn't, personally. It's too depressing to see something that might look cool, but to know that A) it's probably full of IAP and monetization and/or B) it's probably not gonna get a US release.

 

[sense]

just throwing it out there since vita seems to be getting some mobile spinoffs what are the odds of dq1-dq8(ios versions) coming to vita?

 

[hurricanes]

Home consoles are so dead in Japan.

 

[Deleted member 125677]

As intriguing as a high production value home console DQ XI may sound -- and despite how we all love to interpret any small hint on the matter in that direction -- I'm still firmly convinced it'll be 3DS because it's really the only thing that makes sense in Japan besides mobile.

 

[saichi]

just throwing it out there since vita seems to be getting some mobile spinoffs what are the odds of dq1-dq8(ios versions) coming to vita?

makes perfect sense since DQXI is definitely on PS4. DQX will also be ported to Vita to get ppl ready for DQXI port after PS4 release.

 

[sense]

makes perfect sense since DQXI is definitely on PS4. DQX will also be ported to Vita to get ppl ready for DQXI port after PS4 release.

why do you seem mad? just asking a question. i think people predicting dq11 possibly coming to playstation 4 is rubbing you the wrong way.

 

[test_account]

just throwing it out there since vita seems to be getting some mobile spinoffs what are the odds of dq1-dq8(ios versions) coming to vita?

Really depends on how much work that has to be done. There might be a collection down the road for some system(s), or a bundle (does DQ1-8 exist for iOS?).

makes perfect sense since DQXI is definitely on PS4. DQX will also be ported to Vita to get ppl ready for DQXI port after PS4 release.

Why the PS4? You mentioned the WiiU earlier =)

 

[Spiegel]

Not specifically you, but I've seen something along these lines thown around some. Whether it's 6-10 million or whatever for LTD PS4:


Do people then think that the PS4 will outsell the Vita in Japan? Because that's what it's kind of sounding like.


My answer is no right now. But maybe new evidence will force me to change my opinion.

The biggest game Vita is ever going to get, barring a massive surprise from Capcom or S-E, is a multiplatform God Eater game.

That should tell you everything about the chances of PS4 outselling Vita.

 

[Thunder Monkey]

Not specifically you, but I've seen something along these lines thown around some. Whether it's 6-10 million or whatever for LTD PS4:


Do people then think that the PS4 will outsell the Vita in Japan? Because that's what it's kind of sounding like.


My answer is no right now. But maybe new evidence will force me to change my opinion.

If FF, KH, MGS have a much larger impact on PS4 sales than I currently expect I can see the system selling 6 million units total.

Realistically, especially with it's start showing baseline interest, I don't expect PS4 to get any higher than 4 million units. I don't expect all three consoles combined to get any higher than PS3's total.

If I was going to bet I'd say DQXI is heading to 3DS or PS3. There's not likely to be any viable home console this generation.

 

[Road]

PREDICTION LEAGUE OCTOBER 2014

Predict how much these titles will sell in the month (from Sep 29 to Oct 26):

[3DS] New 3DS Hardware (16 days) - 199,999
[3DS] New 3DS LL Hardware (16 days) - 266,666
[3DS] Monster Hunter 4G (16 days) - 1,999,999
[PS3] Kingdom Hearts HD 2.5 (25 days) - 166,666
[PS4+PS3] Evil Within (4 days) - 99,999
[3DS] Tales of the World Reve Unitia (4 days) - 66,666


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Deadline: October 1st 09:00 am (EST) (when Famitsu or Media Create first make their weekly sales public)

Biggest PS4 bomba in October?

a) Omega Quintet
b) Driveclub
c) Onechanbara Z2 Chaos

 

[small44]

Not specifically you, but I've seen something along these lines thown around some. Whether it's 6-10 million or whatever for LTD PS4:


Do people then think that the PS4 will outsell the Vita in Japan? Because that's what it's kind of sounding like.


My answer is no right now. But maybe new evidence will force me to change my opinion.

Ps4 will definitly outsell vita dut to big IP that are absent on Vita

 

[shinra-bansho]

I can only really see the point of DQ on PS4 if the intent is to try and aim for global markets.

Or I suppose from an artistic standpoint if they simply want to achieve a particular game that requires console hardware.

If it's going to remain a Japanese-centric title it would make far more sense on handhelds, mobile or multiplatform on a combination of the above.

On a tangent... I think we obsess far too much over where DQ will go as if it will be some sort of gamechanger.

 

[Takao]

Biggest PS4 bomba in October?

a) Omega Quintet
b) Driveclub
c) Onechanbara Z2 Chaos

#DRIVECLUB is probably the most expensive out of the bunch, but Japan is the least important market for it.

Onechanbara looks like it's made up of stuff from the PS3 game and it's D3. It probably has the lowest budget of the three.

Omega Quintet it is.

 

[Busaiku]

The biggest game Vita is ever going to get, barring a massive surprise from Capcom or S-E, is a multiplatform God Eater game.

That should tell you everything about the chances of PS4 outselling Vita.

Isn't Phantasy Star Nova expected to be much bigger?
Probably not a million seller, but maybe like 700k.

 

[sörine]

Isn't Phantasy Star Nova expected to be much bigger?
Probably not a million seller, but maybe like 700k.

Try half that.

 

[djplaeskool]

Biggest PS4 bomba in October?

a) Omega Quintet
b) Driveclub
c) Onechanbara Z2 Chaos

Got all three preordered

Isn't Phantasy Star Nova expected to be much bigger?
Probably not a million seller, but maybe like 700k.

I'm thinking more in the 400-500k range.
That'll still make it one of the biggest on the system ever.

 

[Sammy Samusu]

Can someone explain me why Phantasy Star Nova predictions are so low?

God Eater 2 (also available on PSP) sold 400k on Vita, there's no reason why PSN would sell less than that, it should sell a lot more, or at least match 400k.

 

[crinale]

Can someone explain me why Phantasy Star Nova predictions are so low?

God Eater 2 (also available on PSP) sold 400k on Vita, there's no reason why PSN would sell less than that, it should sell a lot more, or at least match 400k.

It doesn't have online multiplayer.

 

[Sammy Samusu]

It doesn't have online multiplayer.

Neither did GE2 at launch.

 

[Nightengale]

It doesn't have online multiplayer.

Since when have that mattered for Japan?

 

[vinnygambini]

On a tangent... I think we obsess far too much over where DQ will go as if it will be some sort of gamechanger.

Preach

 

[casiopao]

Can someone explain me why Phantasy Star Nova predictions are so low?

God Eater 2 (also available on PSP) sold 400k on Vita, there's no reason why PSN would sell less than that, it should sell a lot more, or at least match 400k.

Lack of Hype I guess compared to God Eater which always hailed as Vita savior.

The fact that the game is also announced too early maybe cause the hype for the game diminish.

Plus, if I am not remembering wrong, the demo is not having really a good word to word impression there.

 

[small44]

Can someone explain me why Phantasy Star Nova predictions are so low?

God Eater 2 (also available on PSP) sold 400k on Vita, there's no reason why PSN would sell less than that, it should sell a lot more, or at least match 400k.

I think GE2 points in comg stores is highter then PSN in the same time frame

 

[theprodigy]

PREDICTION LEAGUE OCTOBER 2014

Predict how much these titles will sell in the month (from Sep 29 to Oct 26):

[3DS] New 3DS Hardware (16 days) - 222,222
[3DS] New 3DS LL Hardware (16 days) - 222,222
[3DS] Monster Hunter 4G (16 days) - 2,000,000
[PS3] Kingdom Hearts HD 2.5 (25 days) - 166,666
[PS4+PS3] Evil Within (4 days) - 98,765
[3DS] Tales of the World Reve Unitia (4 days) - 65,432


Biggest PS4 bomba in October?

b) Driveclub

I guess? idk will be interesting to see how this one fares worldwide unlike the other two

 

[ZSaberLink]

Btw, Wii U has no software releasing in October in Japan? I guess there's some HW DLC, but that's it? Seems like they're stuffing Nov/December in comparison.

 

[Jamix012]

Isn't Phantasy Star Nova expected to be much bigger?
Probably not a million seller, but maybe like 700k.

No, 400k tops. God Eater and Phantasy Star Portable were very similar sellers on the PSP.

Can someone explain me why Phantasy Star Nova predictions are so low?

God Eater 2 (also available on PSP) sold 400k on Vita, there's no reason why PSN would sell less than that, it should sell a lot more, or at least match 400k.

Why are your predicitions so high? God Eater was about the same size on the PSP as Phantasy Star Portable. Besides being called PSN I think hurts it and the Vita has built up a userbase for God Eater type games...while they're somewhat similar, this isn't as much the case as with PSN. Plus the hype just doesn't seem to be there this time around.

God Eater outsold Phantasy Star Portable 2 for example (the last mainline exclusive release for the system in both series)

 

[Hero of Legend]

Since when have that mattered for Japan?

Actually do we know how active the MH4 community is online? This is by far the highest an online MH has sold, with only MH3 Wii preceding it as a mainline online MH game, and that only did about 1.1 million.

The series' popularity was born from it's local multiplayer.

 

[Takao]

Denpa Men FREE (3DS) has surpassed 1 million downloads: http://dengekionline.com/elem/000/000/935/935799/

 

[Jamix012]

Not specifically you, but I've seen something along these lines thown around some. Whether it's 6-10 million or whatever for LTD PS4:


Do people then think that the PS4 will outsell the Vita in Japan? Because that's what it's kind of sounding like.


My answer is no right now. But maybe new evidence will force me to change my opinion.

It could. It really depends how much Final Fantasy and KH push the system. Honestly I used to bet against it but the PS4 does have much better sellers lined up than the PSV ever did.

 

[Garou]

Denpa Men FREE (3DS) has surpassed 1 million downloads: http://dengekionline.com/elem/000/000/935/935799/

No wonder, it had an icon pushed to everybody's homescreen through Spotpass last week.

 

[Hero of Legend]

Denpa Men FREE (3DS) has surpassed 1 million downloads: http://dengekionline.com/elem/000/000/935/935799/

Genius Sonority has been doing REALLY nicely despite not being on many Pokemon games these days, then again, Colosseum, XD, and PBR weren't huge hits.

They do really, REALLY need to do something of a grander scale. A new IP again, this time maybe attempting to resurrect that Wii RPG they had cooking in 2008 for Wii U or something.

And to PLEASE get back to making console Pokemon games. With Pokken Tournament far, FAR off in the horizon, and not even confirmed for Wii U yet, we're kinda starving for one.

Rumble U by Ambrella is not exactly much of an appetizer. Luckily those are once per platform so no matter what, we'll get something new I'm sure, and hopefully soon.

Hell, I'd kill for Hey You Pikachu 2 on Wii U, there I said it! Make it happen Ambrella! You've had a built-in mic since the DS, what are you waiting for?

 

[ZSaberLink]

For fun:

PS2	Taiko Drum Master: Tatakon de Dodon ga Don			64,002	743,334		Namco		2002-10-24
NDS	Taiko Drum Master DS: 7 no Shima no Daibouken			60,250	693,164		Bandai Namco	2008-04-24
WII	Taiko Drum Master Wii						114,610	658,783		Bandai Namco	2008-12-11
WII	Taiko Drum Master Wii: Chou Goukaban				102,437	654,842		Bandai Namco	2012-11-29
NDS	Taiko Drum Master DS: Touch de Doko don!			89,158	641,229		Bandai Namco	2007-07-26
PS2	Taiko Drum Master: Appare 3-Daime				53,995	578,993		Namco		2003-10-30
3DS	Taiko Drum Master: Chibi Dragon to Fushigina Orb		63,388	548,998		Bandai Namco	2012-07-12
WII	Taiko Drum Master Wii: Dodoon to 2-Daime!			29,349	430,096		Bandai Namco	2009-11-19
PS2	Taiko Drum Master: Doki! Shinkyoku Darake no Haru Matsuri	102,940	407,181		Namco		2003-03-27
NDS	Taiko Drum Master DS: Dororon! Yokai Daikessen!!		65,214	393,279		Bandai Namco	2010-07-01
WII	Taiko Drum Master Wii: Ketteiban				25,343	320,770		Bandai Namco	2011-11-23
PSP	Taiko Drum Master Portable DX					110,242	312,849		Bandai Namco	2011-07-14
WII	Taiko Drum Master Wii: Minna de Party 3-Daime!			26,855	270,672		Bandai Namco	2010-12-02
PSP	Taiko Drum Master Portable 2					14,638	233,267		Bandai Namco	2006-09-07
PS2	Taiko Drum Master: Waku waku Anime Matsuri			50,023	205,130		Namco		2003-12-18
3DS	Taiko Drum Master: Don to Katsu no Jikuu Daibouken		62,247	196,864		Bandai Namco	2014-06-26
PS2	Taiko Drum Master: Go! Go! 5-Daime				29,381	194,840		Namco		2004-12-09
WIU	Taiko Drum Master: Wii U Version!				17,518	163,919		Bandai Namco	2013-11-21
PS2	Taiko Drum Master: Atsumare! Matsuri da!! 4-Daime		30,716	156,164		Namco		2004-07-22
PSP	Taiko Drum Master Portable					14,593	100,884		Namco		2005-08-04
PS2	Taiko Drum Master: Wai wai Happy! 6-Daime			14,553	98,106		Namco		2005-12-08
PS2	Taiko Drum Master: Doka! To Oomori 7-Daime			?	66,761		Bandai Namco	2006-12-07
PS2	Taiko Drum Master: Tobikkiri! Anime Special			10,130	49,554		Namco		2005-08-04
PS2	Taiko no Tatsujin: Taiko Drum Master				?	16,054		Namco		2005-03-17

Also any idea on how much DLC has affected legs in the past. Has it helped?

 

[Takao]

You skipped the PSP entries and you listed the last Wii game above the first.

 

[b3b0p]

21./31. [WII] Super Smash Bros. Brawl <FTG> (Nintendo) {2008.01.31} (¥6.800)

what?

 

[Otakumegane]

what?

Same thing happened to Pikmin2 when 3 released.

 

[ZSaberLink]

You skipped the PSP entries and you listed the last Wii game above the first.

Thanks, made the corrections.

 

[Hero of Legend]

Here's an idea, let's try to list what 3rd-party games we know of, at least on Wii U and 3DS since those seem surprisingly (well for 3DS) scarce.

Wii U:

Lego Marvel
...

Yeah

3DS:

PoPoLoCrois Farm Story (no date period, but I'd be really surprised if it was this year)
Devil Survivor 2: Break Record
The Legend of Legacy
Lego Marvel

Not sure of what else from the top of my head.

Would've added Kamen Rider Summonride Wii U, but surprise, it's this year.

 

[StormKing]

Here's an idea, let's try to list what 3rd-party games we know of, at least on Wii U and 3DS since those seem surprisingly (well for 3DS) scarce.

Wii U:

Lego Marvel
...

Yeah

3DS:

PoPoLoCrois Farm Story (no date period, but I'd be really surprised if it was this year)
Devil Survivor 2: Break Record
The Legend of Legacy
Lego Marvel

Not sure of what else from the top of my head.

Would've added Kamen Rider Summonride Wii U, but surprise, it's this year.

3DS
Bravely Second
Final Fantasy Explorers
Tales of the World: Reve Unita
Etrian Odyssey Untold II
Sonic Boom SC
Cooking Mama: My Sweets Shop
Pac Man and the Ghostly Adventures 2
The Great Ace Attorney
Samurai Warrior Chronicles 3

 

[Hero of Legend]

3DS
Bravely Second
Final Fantasy Explorers
Tales of the World: Reve Unita
Etrian Odyssey Untold II
Sonic Boom SC
Cooking Mama: My Sweets Shop
Pac Man and the Ghostly Adventures 2
The Great Ace Attorney
Samurai Warrior Chronicles 3

How did I leave the point out?! I meant 2015 games. XD

 

[mankoto]

http://gematsu.com/2014/10/the-evil-within-ps4-bundle-japan

Psycho Break bundle

 

[Infernal Monkey]

http://gematsu.com/2014/10/the-evil-within-ps4-bundle-japan

Psycho Break bundle

Man, the gross glossy PS4 bay cover just isn't kind to these designs.

 

[BriBri]

How did I leave the point out?! I meant 2015 games. XD

3DS third party retail games either undated or listed for 2015 include:-
Bravely Second
Yowamushi Pedal
The Legend of Legacy
LEGO Marvel Super Heroes
Devil Survivor 2: Break Record
Koenji Joshi Soccer 3
New Prince of Tennis: Go to the Top
Hatsune Miku Project Mirai Deluxe
Kaminari-ko
Dai Gyakuten Saiban
PoPoLaCrois Harvest Moon
Kenka Bancho 6: Soul & Blood
The Seven Deadly Sins: Unjust Sin
and I guess one could include Layton 7, Rodea and Kaio.
Oh, and

Spoiler

Dragon Quest XI

;-)

 

[Psycho_Mantis]

I can only really see the point of DQ on PS4 if the intent is to try and aim for global markets.

Or I suppose from an artistic standpoint if they simply want to achieve a particular game that requires console hardware.

If it's going to remain a Japanese-centric title it would make far more sense on handhelds, mobile or multiplatform on a combination of the above.

On a tangent... I think we obsess far too much over where DQ will go as if it will be some sort of gamechanger.

gamechanger to what? PS4?

DQ is a bigger franchise than FF in Japan and seeing how much of a system seller FF's have been for Playstation home consoles, I think people are assuming that a DQ PS4 would sell even more PS4's. Sure that may not be out of the question, but only if DQ11 is a PS4 exclusive which is unlikely. Nevertheless the prospect of the DQ series (not just mainline DQ's) being on PS4 will certainly help that ecosystem.

Honestly I see FFXV as being PS4's most important title.

 

[Kresnik258]

I don't think Phantasy Star Nova is going to sell very well at all. It just doesn't seem to have any hype around it at all.

Sony/SEGA could really do with pushing it a bit harder these last couple of months.

 

[mrjohill]

I don't think Phantasy Star Nova is going to sell very well at all. It just doesn't seem to have any hype around it at all.

Sony/SEGA could really do with pushing it a bit harder these last couple of months.

It's still two months out. I'm sure they'll start pushing it before then. It's pretty much the holiday vita game

 

[XDDX]

Predictions:

[3DS] New 3DS Hardware (16 days) - 220,000
[3DS] New 3DS LL Hardware (16 days) - 230,000
[3DS] Monster Hunter 4G (16 days) - 2,022,222
[PS3] Kingdom Hearts HD 2.5 (25 days) - 155,555
[PS4+PS3] Evil Within (4 days) - 133,333
[3DS] Tales of the World Reve Unitia (4 days) - 46,000

 

[Deleted member 125677]

Super curious about how Fatal Frame fares today!

 

[L~A]

Pretty cool that Denpa Ningen no RPG Free! managed to get 1m downloads, though Nintendo pushed it via SpotPass, that's understandable. When you think about it, Nintendo should do that for other 3rd-party F2P games, like that Initial D game. I believe they already did it for their own stuff.

Game seems to be doing pretty well, hopefully they'll be able to bring it to the West.