Portugeezer
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Ubisoft says that MS & Sony are 'pressuring them' into 30FPS on PC; Phil: Not true
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Hades Hotgun
Banned
I wouldn't dismiss the possibility that another Ubisoft employee is just bullshiting to excuse their decision to go with 30fps and parity because it makes it easier to churn out an assembly line product.
But then, its entirely possible that all of the above are true at the same time.
KoopaTheCasual
Junior Member
You should probably keep reading the thread. Like... especially the page you're on.
AHA-Lambda
Member
So this is verifiable and true?
Bastards. Utter bastards.
I shouldn't be surprised but I am. Fuck sake *sigh*
Bastards. Utter bastards.
I shouldn't be surprised but I am. Fuck sake *sigh*
legacyzero
Banned
WHAT THE FUCK?
Glass Rebel
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alexandros
Banned
Apparently, both.
There is no way this is true. It seems like something has been misinterpreted.
The code review will be certification,http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Game_testing#Methodology
The code review will be certification,http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Game_testing#Methodology
blackMamba1187
Member
So this is what Microsoft meant about supporting pc going forward. Makes sense.
alexandros
Banned
The quote seems to implicate Sony as well.
funkystudent
Member
Interesting.
But when has Sony done anything to negatively impact a PC game?
Heck they dont even mind smaller developers launching co marketed games earlier on PC then console and their own dev SOE is allowed to do whatever the hall it wants and only release ports on PlayStation whenever they feel like.
And even then I dont think MS would be this evil about stuff.
And surely there deal with nvidia wouldn't allow this kind of thing.
But when has Sony done anything to negatively impact a PC game?
Heck they dont even mind smaller developers launching co marketed games earlier on PC then console and their own dev SOE is allowed to do whatever the hall it wants and only release ports on PlayStation whenever they feel like.
And even then I dont think MS would be this evil about stuff.
And surely there deal with nvidia wouldn't allow this kind of thing.
Vulcano's assistant
Banned
of course, saying things like this is how you avoid debates...
Interfectum
Member
As PC gaming and, in particular, Steam continue to grow in popularity you can damn well bet console makers will see that platform as a threat. Since Valve is so hands off there is no real "platform holder" to put pressure on one way or another so it's up to the consumers (ie: us) to put publisher's feet to the fire.
Stop buying botched PC ports.
Stop buying botched PC ports.
Laughed........then my face turned serious. You are totally right.
Shining Sunshine
Banned
I'm sure whoever Ubisoft dude said this is going to be in trouble. Console Manufacturer relationship is very precious, and you can't say things like this.
Also, it's most likely a lie. Microsoft and Sony have stakes in PC gaming. It's not likely that they would force this issue like this on a big publisher.
Also, it's most likely a lie. Microsoft and Sony have stakes in PC gaming. It's not likely that they would force this issue like this on a big publisher.
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
2 of my developer friends laughed at this. Oh well.
Sodding_Gamer
Member
Holy crap at the verification. What is happening to our beloved hobby. It seems it's just in a spiral of decline from one thing to another. I swear there needs to be some kind of legal guidelines/policies put in place so this sort of thing can stop. It should be illegal as far as I'm concerned. So many "dirty" practices in this industry that are slowly coming to light.
Sorry for my rant!
Sorry for my rant!
Ubisoft is relentless. Listen, and understand. They are out there. They can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And they absolutely will not stop, ever, until the industry is dead.
We always wondered how Nintendo would survive after how pathetic they seem to be, but this is it. Ubisoft is that trojan horse. It's going to take down everyone, and leave only one behind. It explains that initial support for the Wii U too.
Ingenious, and oh so dastardly.
We always wondered how Nintendo would survive after how pathetic they seem to be, but this is it. Ubisoft is that trojan horse. It's going to take down everyone, and leave only one behind. It explains that initial support for the Wii U too.
Ingenious, and oh so dastardly.
Intheflorsh
Banned
Ubisoft PR has had one hell of a week.
EmptySpace
Banned
sounds like an excuse. pc games have had variable fps since forever.
console makers know pc market and console market are separate, and the cross-section between the two is infinitesimally small than the individual marketshares of each systems.
console makers know pc market and console market are separate, and the cross-section between the two is infinitesimally small than the individual marketshares of each systems.
blackMamba1187
Member
Hey I'm no hater. Sony just has less to say publicly about pc.
CassidyIzABeast
Member
If my PC ports ran like shit I'd run with this theory. Sony and Microsoft made me do it guys.
dragonelite
Member
Dam this totally doesn't makes any sense.
Maybe Ms and Sony both know they under delivered in performance compared to your average gaming rig .
Maybe Ms and Sony both know they under delivered in performance compared to your average gaming rig .
I already have, it sounds like total bullshit even if UBI did say it.
I don't think the console manufacturers should be worried about the performance of PC games but rather the prices.
Yesterday you could buy Tomb Raider for $4 on Steam, yet the same game is over $40 on PS4/Xbox one.
Even for pre-orders you can get a significant discount with PC games that just don't exist for console games.
If console games every do decide to leave for the PC it will be over the prices of games and not specifically over performance.
Yesterday you could buy Tomb Raider for $4 on Steam, yet the same game is over $40 on PS4/Xbox one.
Even for pre-orders you can get a significant discount with PC games that just don't exist for console games.
If console games every do decide to leave for the PC it will be over the prices of games and not specifically over performance.
JordanN
Banned
I really hope Sony or MS come out with a PR statement soon debunking this. Last thing I want to hear is more console bashing.
alexandros
Banned
It does seem to act against it behind the scenes though.
Wouldn't surprise me. Ubisoft ports are shit.
But (assumingg this is true) they already said, in the reddit post, that they aim for 60 but settle for 30 because they want to push eye candy on consoles, which seems like the most honest answer you could get.
Lol my thoughts exactly.
Pyramid head
Banned
Format QA testing is one thing. Platform holders pressuring publishers into hobbling their games on more powerful systems in order to make their own look more appealing is something else entirely.
But please everyone, don't take this too seriously, as my fellow student said on reddit, it could have been simply implied or misinterpretated.
They were "only" two engineers, they may not know everything about the so-called "pressure". The one thing they did talk about most, is that there are lots of hardware restrictions.
They were "only" two engineers, they may not know everything about the so-called "pressure". The one thing they did talk about most, is that there are lots of hardware restrictions.
alexandros
Banned
You really think a PR statement is going to make this go away? A public admission that Sony and Microsoft are using shady tactics to undermine the PC as a gaming platform?
njean777
Member
Idk this is UBI talking. Not exactly the best company right now to believe. Until more developers speak up I wouldn't trust this.
mugurumakensei
Member
well alright. congrats ms and sony for trying to kill gaming. i should probably sell my ps4 now.
JordanN
Banned
Re-read my post. I said for them to debunk this ("this" referring to the events in the thread title).
entremet
Member
No developer in their right mind would admit to this if it was true. At least not with their name attached.