It's exactly what you described....so....lol?
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Sunset Overdrive Coming To PC?
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It's exactly what you described....so....lol?
Yep lol. If Steam was more self-publisher friendly we could see a FLOOD of stuff on steam.
Agree with this. It's been denied. The "news" part of this thread is over.
If precedent means that port begging Sunset Overdrive is fine, then it basically means that the rule doesn't apply to anything MS in general. The precedent won't disappear with this thread. I'd rather not see a load of "PC please" every time any Xbox exclusive is discussed, simply because some other stuff got ported in the past.
Here's the short of it.
Port begging is extremely annoying when, say, a thread is posted about a new gameplay demo for <exclusive game Z> or what-have-you, and replies to said thread are littered with people whining that the game isn't coming to their platform of choice instead of talking about the thread topic.
This thread is about an ad saying Sunset overdrive is coming to PC. Mistaken or not, considering recent history with Xbox One games, having a discussion about the possibility of a PC release, is fine. Other speculation is basically harmless.
Carry on. Thread still can be closed, of course, if people show they don't know how to carry themselves.
Port begging is extremely annoying when, say, a thread is posted about a new gameplay demo for <exclusive game Z> or what-have-you, and replies to said thread are littered with people whining that the game isn't coming to their platform of choice instead of talking about the thread topic.
This thread is about an ad saying Sunset overdrive is coming to PC. Mistaken or not, considering recent history with Xbox One games, having a discussion about the possibility of a PC release, is fine. Other speculation is basically harmless.
Carry on. Thread still can be closed, of course, if people show they don't know how to carry themselves.
The mods are very active just by looking at the bans that have been handed. The thread will get closed if it turns extremely sour or if the discussion has run its course - which is probably the main reason this one will get closed if it does - since the majority of posts are going around in circles. Don't be too hasty.
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That's fair. I don't think any big exclusives they own will find there way to PC
ChosenPredator
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That's why if this was a mistake made by the paper its a huge one, people will just wait it out which means a loss sale for the Xbox one lol
Miles Quaritch
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The same way an MS rep at a show can claim it's true and coming to PC when it's not.
People are sometimes idiots. That extends to people who do marketing.
While not "BIG" there are other MS owned IP games on steam and the list keeps on growing, they have no issue putting games out on it.
CyberPunked
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Because, unlike XO, you can play it in 1080p 60fps+ on PC. Also games age better on PC, meaning in 4 years time, when 4K is standard, you wont be stuck playing it at 900p.
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NoMoChokeSJ
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As an XB1, PS4, and PC owner I don't think it really matters if it comes out on PC down the line. Those who are willing to wait a year to play a PC port more than likely never had the intention of picking up an XB1 for the game anyways. It will have run its course on the XB and those who own the platform will have moved on to other games. An inevitable PC release would just help the developer and potentially strengthen the IP for future releases. PC releases only threaten the "exclusivity" of a product if simultaneously released in my opinion. Also, I would imagine that the vast majority of console gamers opt to play most of their games on their consoles, otherwise most multiplat PC released games would have a substantial impact on their console release sales numbers.
Herpes Reasons
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If crying about a thread is what you'd like to do then by all means.
SmokedMeat
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If Microsoft were to port it anywhere the Xbox 360 would make the most sense.
Revolutionary
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You don't. But you can mistakenly upload the wrong version of the ad. The one that would've been uploaded once both versions are out.
Long illustrious history based on two occurrences? I suppose it could happen again but I wouldn't describe those two instances as a definite on every 3rd party exclusive since even those have nebulous circumstances around them.
Which I don't really see anything wrong with. It's natural to want justification for buying a console for what it has to offer exclusively.
you're crying about my posts, so none of us are really winners, are we?
So it's allowed because of the ad itself and not because two XB1 games went to PC, right? I can understand the former, but the latter is going to be a headache if that's an allowance to port beg.
Perhaps just re-using marketing assets. Someone was mistaken and used the "Only on Xbox and PC" logo for this.
I don't think it's a matter of Port begging, it's people excited that they won't have to spend $400 to play a particular game at a lower resolution. With that said, the track history with these type of 'business strategies and language' from Microsoft, that I can see people now waiting (even if it never does comes to PC) only because of similar events in the past.
Miles Quaritch
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Didn't it sell like 40m on Steam though?
Very much so. It was unforeseen situation, hardly something that would ever warrant someone's firing or the studio being shut down.
I don't know. We're seeing the same thing that happened with XBL on the 360 during the early years. I'm sure Sony will begin to invest heavily into PSN soon enough, it's not something that can be done overnight.
In fact, it's going to get much worse with Christmas just around the corner. It will eventually get better, will be interesting to see how Sony responds.
You can say this about any exclusive though, doesn't mean we're entitled to it.
Huge companies make oversights all the time.
This would be perfectly feasible to chock up as a mistake. The person handling the art department may not be familiar with the games the company releases at all.
The only reason we can justify so much discussion on the subject is due to all of the former exclusives coming to PC recently.
NoMoChokeSJ
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I disagree. Mistakes happen in ads all the time. Just look at the ad board at a Target or Walmart and ad corrections happen almost weekly. These companies are massive and I am sure miscommunication is not uncommon.
PC version will not affect Xbox One owners. I think the main problem is the more Xbox One exclusives that come out on PC the more people will think future Xbox One exclusives will also have a PC version. Which would make people think that they don't need to invest in a Xbox One as a PC version of all it's exclusives come out a year down the line. So far we have Ryse, Dead Rising 3, and if Sunset OverDrive is another one. Then Xbox One will just be a exclusive Halo/Forza/Gears box again.
psn
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bigboss370
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i have a perhaps unrelated question but...
why was it important to Insomniac to keep rights to the IP, if they would never release the game on other systems anyways?
why was it important to Insomniac to keep rights to the IP, if they would never release the game on other systems anyways?
It reminds me of the "Mass Effect/Bioshock also went multiplat" debate that has been going on for years. Yet, very few did the research in how they actually became/were multiplatform.
If they're confident it's a mistake, they can say "We have no plans to release Sunset Overdrive for PC anytime soon, and if it's released in the next two years, we'll give you a complimentary PC copy".
Otherwise I'm assuming it's some Capcom double dip tactics or bought 6 month exclusivity (like PVZGW for PC) till proven otherwise.
Otherwise I'm assuming it's some Capcom double dip tactics or bought 6 month exclusivity (like PVZGW for PC) till proven otherwise.
Hyperbole. Very few people will just wait it out. The merits of owning an XB1 don't hinge on one game. The "system" is a culmination of games and features and offers a different experience than the PC, regardless of the games that may or may not end up on the PC.
As stated many times in this thread, Microsoft wants to do more for PC gaming and a delayed release for the PC helps Microsoft's other platform and helps the developer. It's a "win-win".
Miles Quaritch
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Merchandising? If it's not a success, they have the option to continue the IP elsewhere? Bigger share of the revenue pie? Because they like to own things?
Not that simple really. Like, a mistaken ad about Mario coming to PSVita would be closed immediately, because there's no basis to think it could happen. It's a combination of things.
Considering the IP situation with Insomniac, the history with Ryse and DR3, and that moderators are currently free to keep eyes here, if people want to talk about the topic in this thread, there's not a lot of reason to close it.
Frankly, most of this thread has been fine to be honest, outside of a few poor post decisions already taken care of.
Saving on cost I could understand but I don't see why having a higher resolution would make the gameplay any better. FPS? Okay but the game was designed to work a certain way on the console.
They own merchandising rights, iirc. it would allow them to make plushies, shirts, energy drinks, etc. I could see them having a lot of tie-ins.
I don't think that game will flop, because it's not going to be AAA game. I could see the game price model something like HeartStone
Eh, really? I don't see this being the kind of game that makes big money on merchandise. I guess you would do it, in the off chance it did blow up and become the next big thing? So if it does, you have the rights to it? Could just be something that is a mart decision regardless.
Barack Lesnar
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You don't think I know this? I've been on PC since 94 with a Gateway my parents bought, cow spotted box and all. It's irrelevant what their origins are. What does that have to do with anything? The current state of the market, industry, sales, is what matters.
Not having the IP rights would also restrict their options with a sequel I guess. We'd probably have got Metropolis Street Racer 2 and Demon's Souls 2 instead of Project Gotham and Dark Souls if the studios owned the rights to the IP. In those two situations, it all worked out well... in others such as Call of Duty versus Titanfall, not having the original name can create an uphill battle to attract your previous audience.
Plus, I think we'd all have preferred a new Megaman, than Mighty No. 9
-MD-
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Think they posted something on twitter. Wouldn't really matter if they did though going by Xbox exclusive history.
Perhaps just re-using marketing assets. Someone was mistaken and used the "Only on Xbox and PC" logo for this.
Sunset one has all caps.
So no copy pasterino.
ChosenPredator
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You're probably right and I might be brain washed by reading "will wait for the pc" version so much inregards to xbox games, I was thinking people would be more inclined to wait for it to go on PC to get it cheaper and to have a better resolution/fps all that yadda? but who
knows I'm just in it to play it if there was chance to get some games like red dead on PC i'd be all for it.
Ah they sure did!
https://twitter.com/SunsetOverdrive/status/526423683883995136
And this is true- DR3, Ryse, etc.
Green Yoshi
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If it wouldn't run good on 360, this would hurt the IP.
And Windows is still a Microsoft OS, so what's the problem? They could use X1 games to promote Windows 10. Xbox could become a service, that is not bound to a specific hardware.
ChosenPredator
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I wasn't implying they literally lifted it from that particular advertisement. I'm talking about the phrasing that, in marketing, will be approved and part of official material. I used that as an example of where that phrasing has been used in the past.
Are Fable and State of Decay "BIG" or even MS owned IPs? Also does it really matter, I mean, is Sunset Overdrive "BIG"? I would imagine they are big ie, more meaningful to different audiences, and I am pretty certain that the audiences on Xbox One and PC are not the same along with different games appealing to each audience to varying degrees
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