ashecitism
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Doesn't work that way, because ADS usually effects hip fire accuracy in a negative way. You pretty much have to rely on it. Now, it remains to be seen if the implementation in H5 will effect hip fire or is just cosmetic.
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Halo 5 beta clips leak (sprint, ADS is *not* COD-style) (more clips and info added)
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Doesn't work that way, because ADS usually effects hip fire accuracy in a negative way. You pretty much have to rely on it. Now, it remains to be seen if the implementation in H5 will effect hip fire or is just cosmetic.
Compsiox
Banned
People who hate Halo are unreasonable when talking about it aren't they?
OdysseusVA
Banned
I didn't mind it. You were giving up other AAs to use sprint, but that trade-off wasn't in H4 (and likely H5)
Lol. Worst received by who? My god that 91`
Remember how Halo and 343 are wholly owned subsidiaries of Microsoft and therefore actually have no creative control over Halo?
So you think the player that was using ADS could have jumped, strafed or kept running while staying in "ADS" mode? I highly doubt that, and the player didn't do it, it looked exactly like a CoD engagement, moving and looking around, see opponent, ADS, slow to a crawl and focus only on shooting the guy right in front of them. If that was any other Halo game the player would be shooting at their opponent while pushing their position, at the same time. Moving and shooting is not happening in that play.
too much eslim
Member
Halo 4 did that. they messed up.
BloodMoney
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More like Crysis
PeskyToaster
Member
steady aim man, blast fools before they know which way is up
Didn't other Halo players use the zoom on the battle rifle or the pistol in Halo 1? This is the same thing, basically.
nckillthegrimace
Member
I agree. That's why I said that adding these things makes it clear that Halo is a follower and no longer a leader in the genre. Adding ADS and sprinting seem like feeble assertions to COD players that Halo is still cool, guys. But those guys just want to play COD. They might buy Halo 5, but they aren't going to stick around.
killer rin
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Canononically, i'd say that for Spartans, the top one makes the most sense. Its a camera feed which links up to your HUD and zooms in. Feel free to add in ADS if we're not playing as Spartans or ODSTs with a HUD system, because those soldiers would need to use the scope. For people with the high tech suits of armour, lets leave the zooming to the camera feed.
Compsiox
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I hate when people act like 343 is it's own company.
Masterz117
Banned
You don't understand ADS.
The one time I may agree with Dopey. heh
Vire
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It's been explained a thousand times in this thread why zoom is not the same as aim down sights.
Put a laser sight on and use Gung-ho in AW and you're pretty much a run and gun machine.
Storm Raider
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ITT: people not understanding what ADS is and what it does to the game
The graphics looked pretty sweet though right? I can see them being worried that not having ads is going to make younger players think that the game is dated. If its purely cosmetic and has no effect on accuracy thats great; if not then I can't imagine core fans of the series will be very happy.
TheActtionFigure
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And you have a right to your opinion, but I'll bet the farm that I probably spent more hours playing the various Halos than most of the people losing their shit here. My gamertag is TheActionFigure. Check the stats before popping off about how much I don't understand Halo.
Gabotron ES
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veloxStrix
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That 78 on user scores though. The lack of playtime that Halo 2 and 3 had. The general annoyances that plagued users. But, oh, right. You just read an arbitrary number and base your enjoyment on that. Congratulations.
Oh jeez.... 343i is a complete and utter joke. Hitmarkers, ADS, sprinting.... Every single damned FPS has these terrible and often screen cluttering features. I especially hate hit markers... Why did 343 add them? WHY? Bungie's games had visual cues as to when an enemy was hit, some blood, physics, the shields coming down... Hitmarkers just interfere with the experience and take me right out of the game.
Vincent Alexander
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Oh yeah. I agree. I was simply curious. I've never cared for Halo multiplayer too much. To me, Halo multiplayer was getting 4 TVs connected, and having a LAN party. I've never had as much fun playing against strangers online. That's why the campaign stuff is a bit of what I've latched onto for the past few Halo games.
Looking at it positively.
There is ADS but you can play just like old Halo with skill not using ADS, downside being some team mates are rooted or slow when shooting through ADS and that Halo flow doesn't always happen. 343 want both sets of players and both are catered to. It might work.
There is ADS but you can play just like old Halo with skill not using ADS, downside being some team mates are rooted or slow when shooting through ADS and that Halo flow doesn't always happen. 343 want both sets of players and both are catered to. It might work.
Halo fans.
ozz ex machina
Member
Exactly, I just pray enough mainstream gamers realise how much this can break the halo formula and speak out during the beta (assuming ADS is broken, I am going to give it a chance, as I really struggle that 343 can be THIS ignorant)
too much eslim
Member
the clip is too short. So we will not know. We will find out tomorrow. I have no problem voicing my complaints. Honestly I am only keeping this optimism to keep me from going into an incredible rage. I really hope it is cosmetic. If it isn't, the beta will be the only time I play Halo 5 multiplayer.
Compsiox
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As you can clearly see from this thread it just wouldnt be the same.
Gabotron ES
Member
They put ADS in the Assault riffle man, you don't know what you're talking about.
I do know what I want. You can't dismiss my entire opinion and then tell me I don't know what I want. You just want people to make a list so you can use your arbitrary criteria to discredit that list. You have not adequately proven why this gameplay is dated and should no longer be used. BF is just like it was 10+ years ago. Should they evolve just 'cause?
Why does Halo need to evolve to a de-evolution in gameplay mechanics? CoD is a DE-evolution in the genre that has somehow caught on.
Watch any Halo MP gameplay video, and see how the players move and shoot. The move very swiftly, and when they shoot they are usually jumping. When you put ADS in there, this will mean players will no longer jump and shoot and instead stop and use ADS. This also means they will probably have to increase TTK otherwise it makes little sense to have a player stand in one place shoot for 3-4 seconds.
Lucent
Member
Super serious. People just flip out too much. I couldn't move much in Destiny while using ADS so I think it's a double-edged sword. Rather wait and see how they implement it. If it still has the same accuracy on hip fire as previous Halo games, then there is absolutely nothing wrong with it.
Yeah I'll be waiting to see how it turns out. Just there's been sooooo much getting upset over games that haven't even come out yet that I wonder how high some people's blood pressure gets. lol
spootime
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thread over guys. we solved it.
Twilight Gap
Member
Threw this together
Hopefully it makes sense now why this is either a bad change or a completely pointless one.
Hopefully it makes sense now why this is either a bad change or a completely pointless one.
Compsiox
Banned
Lock it down boyzz
Windom Earle
Member
The Halo popularity in America always surprises me. No other explanation for this thread blowing up like this.
shacklesmcgee
Member
steady aim and the quick reload perk were my jam, made COD like Halo lol
Lucent
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Masterz117
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Threw this together
Hopefully it makes sense now why this is either a bad change or a completely pointless one.
Beautiful. This should be added to the OP.
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