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Halo 5 beta clips leak (sprint, ADS is *not* COD-style) (more clips and info added)

I do like that its an actual beta and not like Destiny "lol here's like 1/5th of the game a month before release, we're not changing anything, I'm sure the game will have more content lmao give us your money bitch". But a real beta a year from launch that fans can (hopefully) provide feedback on that will effect the base game.
 
I do like that its an actual beta and not like Destiny "lol here's like 1/5th of the game a month before release, we're not changing anything, I'm sure the game will have more content lmao give us your money bitch". But a real beta a year from launch that fans can (hopefully) provide feedback on that will effect the base game.

Good, I think the last beta I played with a tangible impact on the final game was Gears 3.

...Gears 3. Hell of a game.
 
I loved ads and sprint in halo 4 so I'm happy :)

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Kssio_Aug

Member
Im honestly faithful about it. I just hope that my ISP let me have some good fun with Halo. Please ISP, let me!!
I have some serious problems with FH2.
 
Sniper zoom is ads

Then all halo games are faulty of this...

Carnival of Stupid part 2. Threads like this are why gamers are treated like children.

Pretty much, people jumping into conclusions before there is anything concrete on the matter, they rather end up looking like fools by judging a whole game based on a 7 seconds gif, and then proceed to spew childish gibberish and comparing it to games that look nothing alike.
 
I'm an the oldest of the old Halo players since Halo 1 on Xbox using Gamespy connect to play LAN matches.

Halo died after Halo 2 or 3 (I hated 3 personally) but the games after Halo 3 are not Halo...they are dog shit. Abilities and ADS and sprint...orbital drops???

GET THE F*** OUT OF MY HALO.

/rant.

yea Halo MP will always pail in comparison to the good old Xbox Live days of Halo 2 and 3.

If Halo died for you after 2 (or 3), then why do you even care what 343 puts in Halo 5?
 

Yoda

Member
Why aren't you guys upset about the sprint(at least as much as you are about the ADS)? ADS is essentially a scope w/cosmetics if their line about it not affecting gunplay is true. Sprint will change how the game is fundamentally played.
 

Shrennin

Didn't get the memo regarding the 14th Amendment
The new info as far as how ADS works makes this perfectly acceptable to me. Unless it plays differently in the beta, I'm still cautiously optimistic about Halo 5. I think sprint is ultimately fine, although I do wish sprint wasn't in the game to be perfectly honest. I was thinking that sprint would be considered a "spartan ability" so I'm not that surprised as far as that's concerned.
 
Why aren't you guys upset about the sprint(at least as much as you are about the ADS)? ADS is essentially a scope w/cosmetics if their line about it not affecting gunplay is true. Sprint will change how the game is fundamentally played.

the problems sprint creates for gameplay are not as widely familiar, and it's more difficult to communicate them especially since it's been in Halo for 4 years.

am thinking about making a few charts and running a few tests for a thread but i don't think i'm the best person to do it.
 

Amir0x

Banned
So is there are recap post or any significant updates post?
I'd prefer to catch up on something beaten into the ground before saying it.

+ The Game has ADS, but apparently the ADS are in an un-Call of Duty style... no loss to accuracy out of ironsights, no loss of speed in ironsights.
+ The Game has a sprint button.
+ Clips:

http://i.gyazo.com/c8266004805e6f1e75f9eb065ca796de.mp4

http://i.gyazo.com/e9970afb3a92c9c2b569d7ee6bd99619.mp4

http://i.gyazo.com/e7ce27c201aedbcecb81ad231095d9b0.mp4

http://i.gyazo.com/3455a623dcc40a8d4618ab89391362a6.mp4

+ Conference in 25 hours to show Halo 5
+ According to shinobi, Locke is pretty much the main character. He doesn't know exactly what the breakdown is between time you play as Master Chief and time you play as Locke, just that the majority of the time is Locke.
+ According to shinobi, pretty much all weapons have ADS now. (Seems a bit confused; says ADS were a big focus of development, but source says might be more limited now. But source says unsure why that would be the case since ADS were such a heavy focus)
+ Apparently a big push to get Halo popular in the e-sports scene, and the changes are attempts to push it in that direction.


That should be all
 

Black_Stride

do not tempt fate do not contrain Wonder Woman's thighs do not do not
I loved ads and sprint in halo 4 so I'm happy :)
Ads wasn't in Halo 4. Sounds like you played as much of it as all it's other fans.

Hahahaha.

But seriously, the Beta is coming super early correct, like almost a year early.
There should be time to change anything that fans are overly outraged about.
Although i dont see sprint being taken out.....weapons having zoom is fine with me cosmetic shit to add on....cool.
 

Schmitty

Member
No movement or accuracy penalty/benefit doesn't solve the problem. I don't need the gun blocking my view. I think this will fundamentally change the game, but I'm willing to try the beta
 

Dongs Macabre

aka Daedalos42
I think someone should start a kickstarter for a FPS that can actually follow phenomenal old traditional skill-based FPS direction again. Since with Halo going down this road (and no reason for benefit of the doubt after Halo 4 showed how these sorts of changes destroy what Halo feels like and why it was so uniquely good) there's really going to be close to nothing left in the old tradition.

I bet a kickstarter like that would do quite well. I don't know what talent is out there that still knows how to work on that sort of thing, but there's gotta be someone.

The whole "don't play as Master Chief most of the time" doesn't bother me though since Halo feel is really based around the gameplay, less the character itself. If the character feels authentically Halo, I could be playing as Waldo Emerits Buttersniffs and I'd probably still get engaged.

There was a thread a few months ago about this game. It looks pretty good.

http://toxikk.com/
 

Amir0x

Banned
There was a thread a few months ago about this game. It looks pretty good.

http://toxikk.com/

Shiit, even its opening tagline seems to point to that. Definitely on my radar. This thread is making me happy, there may yet still be a few hopeful things left trying to push in the old tradition. here's hoping, fingers crossed.

Edit: the entire video is like one big stab at the new tradition. God I hope they nail it and it's not just talk lol
 

BeforeU

Oft hope is born when all is forlorn.
+ According to shinobi, you only play as Master Chief for 10% of the game.
+ According to shinobi, Locke is pretty much the main character.

That should be all

what the fuck is this shit? what the fuckkkk? fuck fuck is this?
 

rokkerkory

Member
+ The Game has ADS, but apparently the ADS are in an un-Call of Duty style... no loss to accuracy out of ironsights, no loss of speed in ironsights.
+ The Game has a sprint button.
+ Clips:

http://i.gyazo.com/c8266004805e6f1e75f9eb065ca796de.mp4

http://i.gyazo.com/e9970afb3a92c9c2b569d7ee6bd99619.mp4

http://i.gyazo.com/e7ce27c201aedbcecb81ad231095d9b0.mp4

http://i.gyazo.com/3455a623dcc40a8d4618ab89391362a6.mp4

+ Conference in 25 hours to show Halo 5
+ According to shinobi, you only play as Master Chief for 10% of the game.
+ According to shinobi, Locke is pretty much the main character.

+ According to shinobi, pretty much all weapons have ADS now. (Seems a bit confused; says ADS were a big focus of development, but source says might be more limited now. But source says unsure why that would be the case since ADS were such a heavy focus)
+ Apparently a big push to get Halo popular in the e-sports scene, and the changes are attempts to push it in that direction.

That should be all

If this is true... I am probably not going to buy Halo 5. Eff off if I cannot play as MC majority of time.

Halo = Masterchief

Do not fuck with that formula. TIA
 

Random17

Member
After all that investment into the Chief in Halo 4 I doubt they'd sideline him MGS2 style.

I can see a 60/40 Locke/Chief split but I highly doubt that they'd do a 90/10 split.

The primary issues with Halo 4's campaign were its over reliance on the novels (i.e. lack of self sufficiency which was not helped by its short length) as well as its relatively tedious level design. The latter was probably a technical limitation of the 360 so it remains to be seen how Halo 5 will deal with it.

The former is still worrying. At this point I'm more worried about Nightfall than Halo 5.

As I said many pages earlier, the addition of Locke allows for a lot more creative freedom but pulling off another Halo 2 will be very difficult. One character overshadowing the other is a legitimate concern. Campaign structure also becomes harder than simple chronological progression.

It also depends on our expectations. I'd like to see Locke have some additional abilities to spice up gameplay; Arbiter Halo 2 camo style would be one of the ways, along with other abilities. The removal of camo/Arbiter missions was the biggest disservice done to Halo campaign players, in my humble opinion.


The good news is that two primary characters guarantees a longer Campaign than Halo 4.
 

Amir0x

Banned
Yeah amir0x is a little off on his last few bullet points, so far we don't see any confirmation of ADS on any other gun but the BR.

I'm going off of the "updates" in this topic, of which shinobi commented this (it's in the OP):

shinobi said:
I don't know if it's purely cosmetic or what, but I asked just now to further clarify if it's even on things like the plasma rifle/pistol, etc. Said that ADS (again don't know if it's just cosmetic or something) was a big focus in development, now says it may just be limited to a few weapons, but that it'd be a strange thing to focus heavily on if it's limited.

Whether it is true or not is unknown, it's there since it's in the OP and that's the latest "update." shinobi has pretty good sources, but by no means unassailable.
 
+ The Game has ADS, but apparently the ADS are in an un-Call of Duty style... no loss to accuracy out of ironsights, no loss of speed in ironsights.
+ The Game has a sprint button.
+ Clips:

http://i.gyazo.com/c8266004805e6f1e75f9eb065ca796de.mp4

http://i.gyazo.com/e9970afb3a92c9c2b569d7ee6bd99619.mp4

http://i.gyazo.com/e7ce27c201aedbcecb81ad231095d9b0.mp4

http://i.gyazo.com/3455a623dcc40a8d4618ab89391362a6.mp4

+ Conference in 25 hours to show Halo 5
+ According to shinobi, you only play as Master Chief for 10% of the game.
+ According to shinobi, Locke is pretty much the main character.
+ According to shinobi, pretty much all weapons have ADS now. (Seems a bit confused; says ADS were a big focus of development, but source says might be more limited now. But source says unsure why that would be the case since ADS were such a heavy focus)
+ Apparently a big push to get Halo popular in the e-sports scene, and the changes are attempts to push it in that direction.


That should be all

Thanks.

Pretty sure it has been said a ton, but I don't understand what they intend to accomplish with ADS. They want to include it but make it entirely superfluous? It just seems like an attempt to draw in crowds from shooters like CoD again and we all know what the fan feedback to perceived attempts at that in H4 were like.
Sprint seems unchanged.

Oh well, we'll get more details tomorrow, not a long wait.
 

k3rn3ll

Neo Member
If this is true... I am probably not going to buy Halo 5. Eff off if I cannot play as MC majority of time.

Halo = Masterchief

Do not fuck with that formula. TIA
I don't think 343 is that dumb to only let you play MC for 10% of the game. If that's the case you really shouldn't have him on the cover at all. Much less put so much emphasis on him in every thing they talk about. Either way I'll still buy unless the game is complete failure.
 

Papercuts

fired zero bullets in the orphanage.
honestly, I'd be ok with them selling that kind of cosmetic shit as DLC. I am DONE with them splitting up the community/playlists between dudes who have the maps and those that dont. Find some other revenue stream, pls.

That's the best way to handle this stuff. People eat up cosmetic meaningless addons, use that to fund actual content to not mess up playlists for everyone

or go the gears 3 route and have like a $90 pack of weapon skins and charge for maps RIP
 
K

kittens

Unconfirmed Member
Well I'm sure someone saved the links somewhere. Someone will upload them

will be largely pointless in 25 hours though :p
I've been offline for the past twenty four hours and just saw this news thirty minutes ago, lol. I want to see the other clips! Someone please upload'em if you can.
 
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