ShadowsFell
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Halo 5: Guardians Beta Thread | Hot Red on Blue Action
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Nintendont
Banned
WOW, I'm surprised at how great this beta is. First time I've had this much fun in a Halo game since OG Xbox Halo 2. (constant team BRs on MCC just isn't the same 
343 really has a shot at Bungie's crown.
343 really has a shot at Bungie's crown.
illmatic22
Banned
Same. I just try to take as many with me to the virtual grave.
russian box
Member
so its only 2 maps? what about the midship remake?
Truth is the Midship remake. They'll be rolling out all 7 maps over the course of the 3 weeks
TheGreyHulk
Member
They should give an option to turn kill cams off and revert to old death cams. Just make it an option
russian box
Member
oh no i was meaning 'remix' the one thats midship remixed, not truth but regret?
As a COD fan who wanted to get into halo but didn't like the slow speed/shields(the thing that makes it halo and not CoD) this feels great. Players die a lot quicker, aim down sights lets me be more accurate(shooting from the hip has the SAME accuracy, thats what makes it Halo and not 'war shooter game') like in COD and the movement feels a lot like Advanced Warfare. Guns feel more like modern weapons instead of the lame Sci Fi stuff (yeah man, i totally wish they had m16s and not these other things, wheres the realism?) that halo used to have as well. Probably going to buy this now! (;_
Edit: Kill Cam is awesome too, part of the reason why I didn't like the past Halo games.
fml
bananafactory
Banned
Everything you just said is exactly what I didn't like about this in the 30 mins I played earlier.
thoseAREmySHOES
Member
Be kind to him, gents.
Twilight Gap
Member
As a Halo fan, CoD Ghosts was my favorite CoD.
For Extinction though. It was like Firefight on steroids.
I actually agree with you that Halo has been too slow for a while; however, I don't support all of these changes.
Not like this. Please no...not like this
Twin Tails
Member
Kill Cam is the worst thing ever
AllIsOneIsNone
Banned
You're 343's new favorite person.
shungokusatsu
Member
Ditto on everything. I could never stand Halo MP due to no sprint, no ADS, ridiculously high TTK. But this beta has changed everything I hated about the series. It's pretty much CoD4, and leaps and bounds more fun than Advanced Warfare (which is a giant pile of shit).
Exploratory
Banned
You're exactly who they're trying to court.
Here's my initial quick impressions. FYI I've played every Halo a ton so I'm a big fan.
Yes -
1.The pistol is awesome. I didn't like it at first and then it clicked.
2.The sound design is very good. 343 is good at that.
3.I like clamber it adds a new dimension to exploring the map. This is my favorite big addition to the sandbox. I also like ground pound and thrusters. Actually all the spartan abilities are great except one.
No -
1.Sprint. Honestly I went in with an open mind and its still terrible. At the vest least make it have a limit. Unlimited sprint is the worst idea ever.
2. The delay on the sniper rifle. Why does this exist? Its really annoying defending yourself against a surprise enemy.
3. The AR is my least favorite thing about the entire game. Wtf is up with the range and its ability to kill so quickly?
4. Why change the rocket launcher to a much less iconic design? Why get rid of the classic triple beep sound effect for respawning? Who is making these decisions?
5. The bonuses that "smart scoping" or ADS as we'll all call it, have broken the balance of the game.
breakfuss
Member
That actually sounds encouraging. I've always disliked Halo MP for the reasons you listed but now I may have to reconsider. Need an X1 first, though lol.
Twilight Gap
Member
Halo is a slower game than CoD, so it's normally obvious what killed you. Adopting the weapon icon into the kill feed is a better solution than blocking the death cam, which is critical in calling out enemy movements after you've died and seeing whether they picked up your objective or power weapon.
There's no reason for the Kill Cam to be in the game. If you're unsure of how you died, that's usually why you died. .
There's no reason for the Kill Cam to be in the game. If you're unsure of how you died, that's usually why you died. .
Munki
Member
Just having to get used to the aiming/movement is turning out to me much more difficult then I thought. It's very different then COD (now that I've played the demo, I do not understand the comparisons).
Rockondevil
Gold Member
I know the feels
Exploratory
Banned
No offense but I hate you people. Don't take that personally though.
russian box
Member
Yep, the snipe is totally broke, the view it zooms into is so dark and small, then the delay on zooming and shooting is horrible.
No it stops people camping.
People really hate what I said but I love it, 343 have designed an excellent game and evolved from where bungie was stuck in the past.
DarthWalden
Banned
Wait, where is the new rocket launcher in these 2 levels?
Twilight Gap
Member
Eh, nothing wrong with a franchise attracting new fans. Like I said, CoD Ghosts is the only CoD i have ever considered buying (although it was only one mode i was interested in), but apparently its fanbase hates the game.
If the developers prioritize the core fans and stick to what worked in the previous games, everybody wins. Halo needs to steal back the mindshare it lost over the last 5 years if the game's going to go anywhere again.
It's clear 343 is trying to pick up the CoD crowd, but they need to respect Halo in the process.
Radar is the reason people camp, and even then it's not widespread unless the map is terrible.
There are rarely more than 2 Snipers on a map, so you're not going to run into many of them perched in a corner that you can't find or flank. Anyone else can be grenaded and probably countered more easily now with Spartan Abilities.
Unless you have a different definition of camping. Halo is very much about power positions, and being unable to break or counter those set ups isn't going to change with a kill cam. It'll actually be more difficult.
PerfectDRUG88
Banned
Man once this game clicks and you grasp the controls it's phenomenal. But until that point it's nothing but aggro
friskykillface
Banned
about to open my halo master chief collection , really wanna try the beta
i got a lot of downloading to do haha , hopefully i can play by 1 am
i got a lot of downloading to do haha , hopefully i can play by 1 am
shungokusatsu
Member
Exploratory
Banned
Call if Duty is becoming less popular every year. And I honestly do not think 343 is respecting Halo at all. Most of the things that made Halo Halo are absent. I'm not talking about gameplay, we could discuss that though, but everything else.
Spartans used to be cool serious figures now they're just one of the bros.
All the sounds you associated with Halo are all gone and they were some of the most iconic sounds in gaming.
The visual aesthetic of pretty much everything in the entire series. Spartans look different, Covies do too.
It just feels like they honestly don't care about preserving anything Bungie did. I mean these are the same people who made Halo 4 clearly they think differently on the direction of the franchise. Only after everyone screamed out no and abandoned Halo 4 did they decide to listen.
Its just frustrating. And the absolute worst part about the whole thing is they won't just have an honest discussion about the game. They say things like "If you feel you have to smart scope we've broken the game" and its clear to everyone on day 1 you should be using smart scope every time in certain situations.
At the end of the day though the game is fun and that's all that matters so whatever.
Munki
Member
Very much in the aggro phase. Slowly getting the hang of it though. Not sure my teammates have liked it very much, but I have been running around during matches to get more accustomed to the movement.
JimiNutz
Banned
I still think it feels more like Halo than COD.
Sure the kill times have been reduced but they've also upped the general speed of the game (with sprint, boost and other traversal options) so it feels well balanced.
You can still get in intense Halo fire fights where you're strafing back and forth trying to land headshot or throwing out nades into a crowd of enemies and then mopping up the rest with the pistol.
You don't get that kind of gameplay in COD and it still feels uniquely 'Halo' to me.
Sure the kill times have been reduced but they've also upped the general speed of the game (with sprint, boost and other traversal options) so it feels well balanced.
You can still get in intense Halo fire fights where you're strafing back and forth trying to land headshot or throwing out nades into a crowd of enemies and then mopping up the rest with the pistol.
You don't get that kind of gameplay in COD and it still feels uniquely 'Halo' to me.
Twilight Gap
Member
Yea I agree with you. A lot of the game's charm and personality has been replaced with generic beeps, bloops, clicks and clacks and it feels like they're homogenizing everything else. I thought Reach looked (artistically, not graphically) and sounded perfect, and I wish they had just enhanced that visual-aural package rather than redesign it. I could come to terms with this (well maybe less so with the different sounds...) so long as the game plays very well. Halo 5 has potential in that regard, so hopefully all of this "we're listening" hype pays off this time.
I'm not holding my breath though.
Poodlestrike
Banned
It's not, but we got a look at it in the Bulletin.
shungokusatsu
Member
Heh, I know that feel. Feel the same way about CoD after the real IW died.
A lot of people upset because there is finally a halo made for people who like Call of Duty. Call of Duty is the better game at this point, it would be silly for them to ignore that.
Also it's so much better. Whenever I tried to play halo 3 or 4 that 3 shot gun people had would always dominate, now I can take them down mid-long range with the assault rifle and kill them quicker than they can kill me, like all automatic weapons should be able to do.
Also it's so much better. Whenever I tried to play halo 3 or 4 that 3 shot gun people had would always dominate, now I can take them down mid-long range with the assault rifle and kill them quicker than they can kill me, like all automatic weapons should be able to do.
BeforeU
Oft hope is born when all is forlorn.
Anyone else experiencing some crazy lag?
http://xboxclips.com/BournVita/835613ab-c4b3-49aa-810c-803ea67b5258
btw at the end of the video check out the halo art when the game crashes...looks new to me.
http://xboxclips.com/BournVita/835613ab-c4b3-49aa-810c-803ea67b5258
btw at the end of the video check out the halo art when the game crashes...looks new to me.
K
kittens
Unconfirmed Member
I know of a perfect game for COD fans: COD. I wish I could say the same for Halo fans.
Super Stardust
Member
343 if youre reading this please add a mute all option
Great map imo, but maybe I think that because I play good there.
Well there is always MCC
Poodlestrike
Banned
And... what effect do the Halo fans who like the game have on your opinion?