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Halo: The Master Chief Collection Beta Update Program Announced
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Illusive_Juan
Member
I would say no. More parts of MCC collection worked than Drive Club did. But the length of time it's taking to fix MCC puts it in a league of its own. I'd say it's definitely worse than Battlefield 4.
barneystuta83
Member
I say credit to them.
They are unable to turn the clock back, shit happened, we all know that. But, instead of just throwing out another update, it sounds like they have put a lot of effort in really fixing matchmaking/party set up.
If they don't do this kind of test in a home environment, and just release the update, it could just not deliver again.
I swear some people hear want the MCC to fail.
They are unable to turn the clock back, shit happened, we all know that. But, instead of just throwing out another update, it sounds like they have put a lot of effort in really fixing matchmaking/party set up.
If they don't do this kind of test in a home environment, and just release the update, it could just not deliver again.
I swear some people hear want the MCC to fail.
Magnetic_North
Member
good GOD 343 i swear you've lost me as a Halo fan i'm never buying anything with your name attached to it anymore
Yeah, it's more the fact the game was so broken to begin with that they're having to publicly beta test a patch for it 2 months later that I find funny. I for one have never heard of a big first party game needing a beta patch before so that speaks volumes for me on how much the screwed up.
And yeah the fact they even called it a beta in the first place too. Any other name would have sounded better.
Worse in some ways, not in others. Driveclub was delayed nearly a full year and still released broken and missing modes/options you expect to find in racing games that still aren't there. Not to mention that it still hasn't released to PS+ as it was originally intended. Halo MCC is worse to most people, myself included, because you expect more from it. To see MS piss all over the Halo legacy is just sad. They have more than Halo obviously, but Xbox is Halo and Halo is Xbox. They've severely tarnished the image of both over the past year.
You can't play with mismatched versions right now. The beta update will push you past the latest retail version. Nothing weird here.
Yea, it's called public beta environment, not sure if it ever happened on a console before.
Valve has done multiple betas for Team Fortress 2 after it's released, including a beta that allowed people to test new weapons, as well as several maps and game modes currently in beta that are being tested though it's not really the same situation as the Master Chief Collection.
The Elite
BOSS
Try to fix their broken product? I'd rather they don't ship a broken product in the first place.
I am not going to point and laugh at a developer for trying to fix a problem. I can however voice my issues with the fact that product was broken in the first place.
Condemning them for making attempts to try and fix the issue doesn't really make any sense to me.
How are they still allowed to charge $60 for this game again? The people who already purchased this game digitally and were told NO by customer support in regards to a refund should have NO problem now!
NO means NO
NO PREORDERING HALO 5!!! (Or any game for that matter) Especially $250 version of Halo 5!!!!!!!!
NO means NO
NO PREORDERING HALO 5!!! (Or any game for that matter) Especially $250 version of Halo 5!!!!!!!!
Well MCC has more parts than DC period. In DC's favor the offline worked perfectly from launch but MCC's had a lot of issues.
Ozzy Onya A2Z
Member
Speculation here but warranted for some perspective I think...
The MCC beta announced has to tie in with an X1 OS/platform update, it's linked to the preview program after all. Given the Reddit post about the API being rewritten and opened up to in game(s) access rather than just using the X1 OS for friends/multiplayer elements this is a logical and progressive process to follow.
In simple terms the platform, OS & MCC are all being updated together and the preview program used as a beta test is the right moves to deliver a working solution when released to the public. My guess is we'll be seeing the in game roster to join parties, chats, game invites etc. Hopefully we'll be seeing real time friends game results e.g. score or time left etc.
Locking it down to only North America doesn't appear to be a great step forward IMO but breaking testing into chunks is logical. I hope this helps them deliver the new MCC in game elements and a more integrated and solid multiplayer/party experience. I also hope this enables regional and dedicated servers to become faster and more reliable.
Also don't forget this will likely be the system used/studied for other games and developers going forward with the new API and platform elements.
The MCC beta announced has to tie in with an X1 OS/platform update, it's linked to the preview program after all. Given the Reddit post about the API being rewritten and opened up to in game(s) access rather than just using the X1 OS for friends/multiplayer elements this is a logical and progressive process to follow.
In simple terms the platform, OS & MCC are all being updated together and the preview program used as a beta test is the right moves to deliver a working solution when released to the public. My guess is we'll be seeing the in game roster to join parties, chats, game invites etc. Hopefully we'll be seeing real time friends game results e.g. score or time left etc.
Locking it down to only North America doesn't appear to be a great step forward IMO but breaking testing into chunks is logical. I hope this helps them deliver the new MCC in game elements and a more integrated and solid multiplayer/party experience. I also hope this enables regional and dedicated servers to become faster and more reliable.
Also don't forget this will likely be the system used/studied for other games and developers going forward with the new API and platform elements.
bananafactory
Banned
The difference is that however you feel about the content included, Driveclub shipped finished within the scope of what they had promised for the game, and was actually functional prior to the netcode/server design breaking upon releasing to the public.
MCC's matchmaking was never previewed or playable by anyone prior to release, and was then found to be broken when the game did launch, so there's no evidence that it was ever really functional.
Not to mention that despite the online issues, DC's campaign worked perfectly. MCC still has campaign bugs and FR problems that likely won't be addressed until after the MP is totally fixed, if ever.
Comparisons aside, both of them are and should be massive embarassments for their developers and Sony/Microsoft.
Halo 5 has well over 100,000 pre-orders and even if MCC collection never gets fixed that number will only grow.
I can't blame the Xbox players, many bought it specifically for Halo, so the idea of not buying the next new installment isn't even a consideration.
Trigonometrize.
Member
If this were the state of my favorite franchise I'd be very disappointed.
Thing is, neither of those problems affected the paying customers of Driveclub. Sony didn't take their $60 in November 2013 when it got delayed and PS+ users still got a free game that they were entitled to. Maybe not DC, but w/e, PS+ has never been about getting specific games announced forever in advance.
Thing is, neither of those problems affected the paying customers of Driveclub. Sony didn't take their $60 in November 2013 when it got delayed and PS+ users still got a free game that they were entitled to. Maybe not DC, but w/e, PS+ has never been about getting specific games announced forever in advance.
If the update makes major changes I can understand the need to test it under community stress. Clearly internal testing didn't work for the game so they're trying to get it right this time.
If the patch works then Microsoft should offer disc swaps for a working version and pull existing stock for updated discs.
If the patch works then Microsoft should offer disc swaps for a working version and pull existing stock for updated discs.
ProvenDeadly
Member
It's great that the general public is finally starting to see how much of a joke 343 is.
TheUnsunghero26
Member
This is pretty embarrassing.
I honestly believe so. Halo 4 worked online day 1. I don't have a Xbox one so I can't speak about the fuckery that the MCC seems to be. All I can say is daym I feel bad for you guys.
Presumably they're going to have set time periods where they're doing lots of testing. It would be difficult for 343 to do any testing for international play times if it's in the middle of the night.
My exact reaction OMFG wat
StriKeVillain
Banned
I understand that. What I'm saying is I have no confidence in 343 to restore matchmaking back to normal for beta personnel.
Death Metalist
Member
While this is all baffling and quite funny, I am glad they are taking this daring step because now it means there should be no fucking excuses to the update not doing what it supposed to do.
The Elite
BOSS
As someone who bought both DriveClub and MCC, they were both equally broke ass broke and both Sony and Microsoft took my money with a smile ahead of time. Evolution got their shit together eventually and it worked out great but I don't think Sony should be excused for what happened any more than MS should be for the MCC mess..
Both were fuck ups of equal scale. This comparison of "which one was worse" just sounds like fan boy/girl crap at this point.
They BOTH sold broken products to their consumer base. Evolution did what they needed to to fix it and now 343i has to do the same. They just have to go about it through a public beta test. The FIX isn't the problem, the fact that they sold us a broken product is.
Diddy Kong
Banned
Lmao this thread. 343 ruined Halo for me :/
bananafactory
Banned
The difference is that DC worked prior to launch, while the impression people have with MCC is that 343 knowingly shipped a broken product.
Of course it's hard to prove any speculation and neither is acceptable, but I think people are more forgiving of the former than the latter.
ThoseDeafMutes
Member
So have I missed something, or is this simply a beta for the next update? Because as far as I can tell, people ITT are losing their minds over some kind of imagined scenario where MCC is now "entering Beta", which seems completely unsupported by the link in OP.
It's a beta test for the next content update, yes.
Blue Ninja
Member
At this point, it's just more noise. This was supposed to have been a collection to unite all Halo's on one system, one disc. This shouldn't have needed any fucking patches. This shouldn't even have released in the state it was in.
343 just needs to come out and talk about what went wrong. They need to start owning up to their mistakes. We got one "we owe you" and promises of some new stuff, but what good is that when the game doesn't even work? It's a joke.
There are some great people working at 343, but I have no sympathy remaining for the company as a whole.
343 just needs to come out and talk about what went wrong. They need to start owning up to their mistakes. We got one "we owe you" and promises of some new stuff, but what good is that when the game doesn't even work? It's a joke.
There are some great people working at 343, but I have no sympathy remaining for the company as a whole.
The Elite
BOSS
GAF goggles.
No, you're right. It's the same thing that countless other games do - Valve's games, Blizzard's games, and many other companies allow you to opt in to a beta for future updates separate from the main game.
Correct, it's a beta test for the next update.
The humor is in the fact that the actual main thing never had a beta test itself.
Well, those keep parallel servers going, though. You don't lock yourself out of playing the old build if you go for the Beta servers, as far as I know. I think that's part of the issue here.
KINGofCRA5H
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Regret Upon Approval
Member
Too be fair, "Beta" was a poor choice in words. At this point the state of the MCC is a rather sensitive issue one that 343i has to tread ever more cautiously around.
WordsintheWater
Member
To be fair to those people it feels like the game has been in Beta since it released. I wonder how many GB's will be taken up by this game when all the updates are said and done.
They're alright. Need more years under their belt.
Blue Ninja
Member
No, you're right. It's a beta test for a new patch, it's just the wording that has some people confused and/or angry.