Reluctant-Hero
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Eh, they have to consider retailer relations. They can't bring new product to the market when old stock is still out there.
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Nintendo Q3 FY15 Results - Beats Market Expectations; Lowers Full-Year Forecast
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Eh, they have to consider retailer relations. They can't bring new product to the market when old stock is still out there.
Well their losses are sunk now.
They've already taken their licks on the 3DS & Wii U. Now they are basically riding the Wii U out. They didn't try to revive it last year without a price cut (which is kinda crazy if you think about it). They've reduced costs, increased margins at the cost of revenue and, potentially, future growth.
Its quite the interesting strategy really.
No. I don't see that happening. That's a good way to limit your audience. If they are going to do both platforms, it'll be like Smash where they're similar but different. That way, you get people who buy both.
StreetsAhead
Member
I kind of think they were trying to milk one more holiday out of the OG model in the West and it sort of backfired.
In that case, I agree.
SwiftDeath
Member
Hmm I don't remember reading about any investments/expenditures that sounded particularly risky. In recent memory, their new building consolidation and job hirings in-house sound like a fairly conservative and straightforward path to lower development costs but I haven't followed everything of late.
vinnygambini
Why are strippers at the U.N. bad when they're great at strip clubs???
Doubled-edged sword really as you mentioned.
On a side note, Pokemon has really outperformed my personal expectations. I was expecting 8-8.5 million. They did good.
you know, leaving in "million" as a placeholder on Amiibo is going to confuse people, should probably edit that out for the moment
I'm going to edit that
I thought they would at least highlight the result in the report ;.;
SwiftDeath
Member
PDF shows 9.2M shipped
You know what limits your audience? Only selling handhelds. Which is what is occurring. Expanding the amount of content on your console will likely increase sales and I doubt it would be at the cost of their handheld business.
Welfare
Member
I think the main reason that strategy backfired is because they didn't really push the 3DS as much as they should have. 3DS really needed a price cut during the holidays, even if it was only a temporary price cut.
The biggest offender was the lack of a really good Black Friday deal IMO. 3DS XL should have been going for $149 with a game included.
Japanmanx3
Member
A Black Friday deal would have been huge. I could understand not wanting to pack the new Pokemon or Smash but a couple games from 2013 and $169 would have brought in some sales.
And yet Smash Wii U has already sold over 3 million units...a number most publishers would kill for.
They can do both, but having the same game be on handheld and home console is a terrible idea. I argue it's part of what helped kill the Vita.
What they need to do is produce unique experiences for these series for the handheld and home console, with a link between them, not just plop the exact same title across both formats.
Reluctant-Hero
Member
I'm just blown away by how strong the Pokemon brand is after all this time. Often imitated, never duplicated.
Does the QoL platform launch later this year? I feel like both the 3ds and Wii U are gonna go down hill in 2015 compared to 2014. Unless the N3ds sells extremely well and the 3ds gets more big first party support beyond what we saw in the latest direct, I feel like the 3ds is entering last legs territory.
SatoAilDarko
Member
It's still incredibly impressive that even with the 3DS having five times the install base and Smash 3DS launching almost two months earlier that Smash Wii U is still over half of the 3DS version.
theprodigy
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no you see, clearly you can't account for all of the sales, clearly they overshipped
but seriously, will they even hit the Wii U forecast at this rate? it needs 570k, which would be a sizable increase from the previous year
10 million by the end of the FY is out of the question now though >_>
Nope 2016. Most likely alongside Nintendo's new handheld although that is me speculating.
QOL platform should be launched this CY, actually.
No point in putting money into shovelware for a dedicated handheld when you can put it on mobile.
Holiday then? I can't imagine them launching Fall or earlier.
Although the DS had a lot of shovelware it also had tons of games that were great, that sold great that benefited from physical controls.
Edit: I guess not.
Makes we wonder if 1 Pokemon mainline RPG per year really is coming...
fredrancour
Member
random ideas:
Parents who bought one for kids and then recoiled at the thought of regular 40 dollar game purchases? People like my offline friends who bought one for pokemon and smash but haven't even gotten around to other Nintendo games, let alone non-Nintendo games or impulse buys?
The wiiu is owned by the people who really love the majority of nintendo's output and relatively few of the people who bought smash and kart and nothing else?
vinnygambini
Why are strippers at the U.N. bad when they're great at strip clubs???
They really are.
Shipments should look like this:
Japan: 2.8 million
Americas, Europe & Others: 6.55 million
That's an amazing feat; especially for a considered remake in one quarter.
Welfare
Member
no you see, clearly you can't account for all of the sales, clearly they overshipped
but seriously, will they even hit the Wii U forecast at this rate? it needs 570k, which would be a sizable increase from the previous year
lol
But another forecast Nintendo won't make on the Wii U? Even one that should have been easy to grab?
The Wii U will probably squeeze by 10m by the end of June.
The Shogun
Banned
So glad to see Nintendo posting profit again. It may be too early to call it a comeback but it seems Ninty is starting to make some smart business moves that hopefully in the long run will lead to a healthier business.
"Investors are also awaiting more details on its new healthcare-related service called Quality of Life, which is expected to start contributing to Nintendos earnings from the business year starting in April 2016."
-Article in the OP
StreetsAhead
Member
At this point it would only mean one extra game every four years/generation.
MisterGrey3000
Member
The thread is not really about this topic so I really don't feel like arguing with you (plus you seem a bit combative), all I know is that I have no reason to believe that they're not going to invest in some sort of iPad/iPhone/iPod-like hardware for the 9th gen.
They've said countless times that they're spread to thin, they've said countless times that software scheduling is a huge problem for them, and they have expressed great interest in unifying their entertainment/life-style devices (from both a hardware, and software standpoint) in an Apple-like manner.
If you want to educate me, feel free to send a PM my way so I can stop "misinterpreting" their statements.
LiberaTeExInferis
Member
So, how many WiiUs have been sold this financial year?They will beat their 3.6 million projection, right?
3DS hardware revisions
Iwata specified better a few months ago
- Launched in FY starting April 2015
- Starting contributing to Nintendo's earnings from FY starting April 2016
http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/en/library/events/141030qa/index.html
no you see, clearly you can't account for all of the sales, clearly they overshipped
but seriously, will they even hit the Wii U forecast at this rate? it needs 570k, which would be a sizable increase from the previous year
10 million by the end of the FY is out of the question now though >_>
Mario Party and Kirby to the rescue lol.
ShockingAlberto
Member
I wonder if the Wii U software sold is counting bundled software.
Though that wouldn't account for more than nine million at absolute highest. There are a few 3DS bundles, but far from the entirety of the SKUs out there.
Though that wouldn't account for more than nine million at absolute highest. There are a few 3DS bundles, but far from the entirety of the SKUs out there.
People tend to buy more games the longer they own the systems, so I wouldn't be terribly surprised if the DS had a similar attach rate at this point in its life too. But I don't have any chronological numbers to compare.
oh yeah
LiberaTeExInferis
Member
Thank you, yes it will be close...
True. That could still mean 2016 launch.
theprodigy
Member
all software includes bundles
also of course Wii U has a higher attach rate than 3DS, what exactly did you guys expect :lol
the "other" region is probably a result of launch/early 2013 overshipment though (negative Q2, anyone?)
edit: well actually everything Wii U last year was hit by that