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New Witcher 3 Details: Weapon Life, Skill Trees, Temporary Companions, Weather etc
- Thread starter Exentryk
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all their enhanced edition so far have been free.
so it's really only a question of do you want to wait for patches and some aditional content? or do you want to play the game as it comes out.
Depends.
It was fine in Dark Souls because it only became a problem if you neglected the system for 5+ hours.
Conversely, It sucked to high heaven in Dark Souls 2. Fuck the durability system in that game.
I'm hoping it's more like the former than the latter.
Soyongdori
Member
Dark Souls has unlimited weapon storage. I can easily take out another weapon out of 10-20 weapons in my item pocket to deal with enemies. This is obviously not the case for The Witcher 3. They will have to come up with an item that lets you repair the weapon, otherwise going back and forth to blacksmith just to repair a broken weapon is going to be something that is very similar to Dragon Age fetch quests.
Vulcano's assistant
Banned
nah, they will patch those for free
Definitely partly that...
Although digital pre-order discounts is something CDPR does in general. If you own both the previous games on PC you can get an extra 10% off TW3, and it already has a 10% pre-order discount on both GOG/Steam (Totaling 20%).
On the Xbox One you get a "free" $10 digital gift card, which is "sort-of" like getting 15% off (Although this doesn't seem to be a W3 specific deal)
Also I don't know about Witcher 1, but they gave pre-order discounts for digital TW2.
It's just another one of those things CDPR does to try and present their 'gamer friendly' attitude. (Zero snarkiness there, since it could be read that way)
SavoyPrime
Member
Yeah, maintaining weapons is indeed something I hate in gaming. But it sounds like the only bad thing so far about the game.
Nah, weapon degradation is just a shit gameplay mechanic
His Majesty
Banned
It isn't. It encourages the use of multiple weapons and serves as a way to spend your money. Rushing into battle without potions or rushing into battle with a blunt sword are both equally stupid ideas for a witcher.
Turin Turambar
Member
How could we know?
We don't even have played the base game, and know we have to makes guesses about a hypothetical future edition?
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[Asmodean]
Member
A list of sweet features, and all people have to say in 99% of the posts is " amg, I've to repair my weapons!? :*( " for shame.
Man, you guys are way too used of being coddled ;p most of you wouldn't last an hour, in one of the older cRPGs.
If you've to visit smiths to repair/sharpen them (like the description would lead to believe), then obviously CDPR will account for that, and they'll probably degrade pretty slowly. So, you'll basically use it whenever you're going to the vendors in a town, etc - stop off at the smith to sharpen your blades = not a big deal.
Such FUD.
Man, you guys are way too used of being coddled ;p most of you wouldn't last an hour, in one of the older cRPGs.
If you've to visit smiths to repair/sharpen them (like the description would lead to believe), then obviously CDPR will account for that, and they'll probably degrade pretty slowly. So, you'll basically use it whenever you're going to the vendors in a town, etc - stop off at the smith to sharpen your blades = not a big deal.
Such FUD.
So, is it or isn't it? I, and a bunch of others, are saying it is, but you're saying it's not. Man, I am so confused right now!
[Asmodean];152172464 said:
lmfao
Terra_Ex
Member
Some really nice features in that list, AI especially, if they can nail that I'll be impressed. The skill/preparation systems sound interesting, though I wonder if it'll end up anything like SMT can where if you fail to predict the makeup of your enemies beforehand, you can get curb-stomped. They might actually go for that kind of approach what with the increased focus on monster hunting and learning about your enemy before engaging them.
SaganIsGOAT
Junior Member
Game is looking amazing
~ Zyzomys ~
Member
Now why stop with simple weapon maintenance? The Witcher needs to eat every day, and don't forget about his horse. Was the horse good today, worked hard? Maybe a little extra grain. And what about the saddle and tack? That shit wears out and needs daily maintenance that is best done after you curry your horse. And mucking out the stall morning and night is sweet! All kinds of mechanics can be added to a game, but is it fun? And why shouldn't people complain? We are the clients and it may not be too late to remove this "feature".[Asmodean];152172464 said:A list of sweet features, and all people have to say in 99% of the posts is " amg, I've to repair my weapons!? :*( " For shame
Man, you guys are way too used of being coddled ;p most of you wouldn't last an hour, on one of the older cRPGs.
If you've to visit smiths to repair/sharpen them (like the description would lead to believe), then obviously CDPR will account for that, and they'll probably degrade pretty slowly. So, you'll basically use it whenever you're going to the vendors in a town, etc - stop off at the smith to sharpen your blades = not a big deal.
Such FUD.
Cheers
RustyNails
Member
I had the same question. But what's best is, finish the vanilla, then play the EE for maximum enjoyment.
People shouldn't complain because at the end it's the execution that counts and nobody has had a chance to try it out. You can be wary, for sure, but right now it's straight up kneejerk
Assuming they do an enhanced edition this time. They did enhanced editions to correct issues and add polish to the games. They also added more content.
This time around the content is being covered by DLC and they're taking a longer amount of time to develop and polish the game.
I'd much rather they got on with developing Cyberpunk...
This isn't the case with most modern mainstream games. It amounts to either a) Stocking up on something so that you can repair you weapon/gear or b) Fast travel to town and have a blacksmith repair your stuff.
The main problem some people have is that it's a worthless feature (in those games). Yes it cost money and may take up inventory space, but you have an abundance of money and enough inventory space that it becomes an afterthought. It provides no challenge nor tough choices, it's just needless busy work.
It may be different in the Witcher 3, but this is why some people are against it.
I'm surprised at how many people are up in arms about weapon durability. I'm guessing most of you have had bad experiences with games that had really shitty durability mechanics.. Far Cry 2 style, where your guns would break after a hundred rounds or so and you had to get a new one. I'm going to go out on a limb and say that CDPR are a little better than that, and that this won't be anything remotely close to the game-breaking scenario you people seem to think it is.
You'll be visiting the blacksmith pretty regularly anyway, just like every other RPG in existence. Is clicking the "repair all" button really that much of a pain in the ass that you bitch and moan about it all day?
You'll probably be replacing your weapons via upgrade quicker than they'll break.
You'll be visiting the blacksmith pretty regularly anyway, just like every other RPG in existence. Is clicking the "repair all" button really that much of a pain in the ass that you bitch and moan about it all day?
You'll probably be replacing your weapons via upgrade quicker than they'll break.
Vulcano's assistant
Banned
people have modded most of these things into Skyrim already. some people legitimately enjoy that level of immersion.
Emperor_Uriel
Member
*Sees mention of hunger mechanic.*
*Realizes that he has made posts criticizing potential implementation of weapon durability.*
...
*Is still kind of excited.*
His Majesty
Banned
You never had an abundance of money in the previous games. Most of your money was spent on books/recipes and the payment for completing contracts was actually pretty low. I am confident The Witcher 3 will continue that tradition.
As I've said, the main reason for implementing it comes from a lore perspective. A master swordsman such as Geralt needs to keep his swords in perfect shape. Neglecting that should receive some form of penalty. Just like ignoring alchemy or not researching creatures should make fights much harder. It's all part of the preparation system that should make the combat more unique.
jim2point0
Banned
Whenever i get frustratd with things like weapon durability, I just hack it. Did it with Dying Light. I enjoyed the game more after that 
No kidding. The fact that you couldn't select resolution in-game in The Witcher 2 was very frustrating.
No kidding. The fact that you couldn't select resolution in-game in The Witcher 2 was very frustrating.
I hope there is more to it than just "lore reasons". CDPR has already been pretty loose with the lore in favor of tighter gameplay, so I hope its not just busywork for the sake of it and that there is some gameplay justification.
Whenever i get frustratd with things like weapon durability, I just hack it. Did it with Dying Light. I enjoyed the game more after that
Ya, I'm sure there'll be a cheat or a mod to disable it in the first 24 hours. So it's not that big a deal if you're on PC.
~ Zyzomys ~
Member
PC gaming is definitely different than gaming on a console. While that mod isn't for me, it is really cool how the pc gaming community changes a game to make each play through unique for different users.
Cheers
Some of that stuff sounds awesome honestly. Like hardcore mode in fallout new cegas but maybe actually hardcore (I love hardcore in fallout new Vegas but it gets pointless once you are high level). I mean if they implemented it well so that it added challenge it would be awesome. Hell, for immersion I'd still love it (in Skyrim I insisted on sleeping for 6 hours at least every night and eating twice a day). That's one thing I missed about elder scrolls playing Witcher 2, they let me at least RP that mechanic even if it meant nothing (I could sleep and even find beds to sleep on. I could find food and eat it. I could sit down on chairs). Ok, I'm digressing now.
Anyways, I know you were being sarcastic but it failed cause some of us would like that
.Turin Turambar
Member
I think the difference in Witcher 3 with Witcher 1 and 2 it's that being open world, they need more reasons for the player to move around the map, like for example having to comeback to the nearest village/city to repair weapons, and maybe along the path you find new a PoI or a new sidequest. It's a different experience that the more linear development of past games.
I would like to know more about the enemy AI part, because having more skills and ability to assign these skills to combat functions won't mean much if the enemy spawns,encounters,characteristics and behavior are't refined.
Else it will just turn out to be like Shador of Mordor, where at certain point the hero would become an existential constant in combat (instead of having a variable outcome).
RustyNails
Member
Completely forgot about Cyberpunk. Hopefully we'll get a full blown gameplay segment this E3.
True but by the time they release it. Day one purchasers will probably have finished it.
I hope they sort out the weight mechanic. It is god awful when dealing with weight on the tw2 on console.
They were asked about it in the recent round of interviews and they pretty much said that this year belongs to Witcher. They've had to siphon off people from Cyberpunk to help finish up Witcher 3, so work on Cyberpunk has probably stalled.
Jibbajabbawockky
Member
Dynamic weather sounds so good.
For open or semi-open world games, having a day/night cycle and dynamic weather is such a boost to immersion and atmosphere. Some of my absolute favorite memories of Skyrim were just wandering around in a snowstorm at night only to have it clear and see the northern lights, then wander around some more and see the sunrise break by the huge statue of Azura in the north.
For open or semi-open world games, having a day/night cycle and dynamic weather is such a boost to immersion and atmosphere. Some of my absolute favorite memories of Skyrim were just wandering around in a snowstorm at night only to have it clear and see the northern lights, then wander around some more and see the sunrise break by the huge statue of Azura in the north.
RustyNails
Member
Boooo
Jay Shadow
Member
Some added Dev info from the Witcher forum about skills and armor:
Even more details about the skill trees direct from CDPR.
http://forums.cdprojektred.com/threads/33751-Activated-Skills-Tree?p=1545802#post1545802
http://forums.cdprojektred.com/threads/33751-Activated-Skills-Tree?p=1545802#post1545802
Ehmm, they can't be completely destroyed..
I'm kind of undecided on the skill slot system. If it ends up being micromanaging that you'll have to do before every other fight, I'm not really into it.
If there's a mod/cheat to activate all unlocked skills, I may just end up using it and raising the difficulty to compensate. But we'll see, it could be good.
If there's a mod/cheat to activate all unlocked skills, I may just end up using it and raising the difficulty to compensate. But we'll see, it could be good.
Yeah, that description does not do much for me. Seems like the game may be leaning too heavily on "preparation" and we'll spend a lot of time diving in and out of the menus to swap around potions, bombs/bolts, oils, mutagens, and now skills too. Hopefully, it works well in practice.