They should instead push GG to get that Horizon IP ready for release this year.
That thing has been in development for 3+ years now :/
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Uncharted 4 delayed to Spring 2016
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They should instead push GG to get that Horizon IP ready for release this year.
That thing has been in development for 3+ years now :/
renegade_dewitt
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totally agree with this. Didn't UC2 also have a similar delay during production back in the Xbox 360/PS3 era? Or am I wrong?
Alex_Mexico
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So, in other words, it's still speculation? Or are you claiming to have inside info? Because if its the former then your educated spring 2016 guess is as good as my conjecture of a 12 month exclusiveness for Microsoft.
It's not speculation. Bish can confirm if you really need it.
Alex_Mexico
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As far as i can remember UC2 never got delayed after an initial release window was announced. Same thing for UC3.
vpance
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The stifling of a pittance is still a pittance. I think TR being the "premiere" cinematic action adventure TPS this holiday will pay off even better dividends.
Defcon_2Fast4u
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Glad its not coming out this year. I really want them to take their time with the game.
I do not want a game which runs somewhat good, and then they flood it with patches after its release to stabilize the game.
And I kind of called it when they announced the game, that it will not be dropping in 2015.
I do not want a game which runs somewhat good, and then they flood it with patches after its release to stabilize the game.
And I kind of called it when they announced the game, that it will not be dropping in 2015.
Yes. Force something out the door early so we can have another Driveclub / Halo MCC fiasco. And just think how calm you were in the DC thread. Forcing games to release before they are done is such a terrible idea.
The Artisan
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agreed. i don't think they ever intended for Uc4 to be a 2014 title. So this (Q4 15 to Q1/2 16) is the first delay.
The only reason this is surprising to me is that I thought the game was pretty well finished by now but I guess they didn't really go full bore into development until perhaps the start of 2013 ? That would mean maybe a 3 year development cycle if you count all pre-production work. I'm going to wager it was originally targeted for a November release this year but various issues contributed towards that goal looking a bit too lofty.
Let's get into that just a bit shall we ?
The playstation 4 is selling very well even without an exclusive killer app.
Seriously , Sony is pushing a million + every month since launch and it doesn't like things are slowing down at all. The only territory it's not doing gangbuster sales is sadly Sony's homeland of Japan but that's an issue endemic of non-mobile gaming in general moreso than an exclusive PS4 or even vita problem. Since people keep buying consoles elsewhere, what reason does sony have to rush games out ? Rushing development leads to more problems and is also less cost effective.
Sony hasn't had a real PS4 exclusive hit game. By hit game I'm refering to that must have title that is both a critical darling and a sales success. Sony's first party published efforts have been mostly fruitful sales wise (although nothing has been HUGE) but critically ? Not so much. While I dislike score aggregate sites , it has to be at least a mild annoyance that all of sony's PS4 titles to date have been lacking in the high scores department. Knack 58% on gamerankings / 54 on metacritic. Killzone 73%/73 MLB 2014 83%/83 , Infamous 80% / 80, The Last of Us remastered 96%/95, Drive Club 70%/ 71, The Order 1866 64%/65. Worth noting that the 2 highest rated titles in there are also available on PS3. My point here is that , Sony really needs to make their next big release a FANTASTIC game , not just a nice port or a GOOD game.
2014 was a prime example that more time in the oven is better. Drive Club and Halo master chief collection both had sloppy online play and the latter was riddled with some pretty obvious bugs. Assassins creed unity was released at least 6 months away from actually being finished. Last fall there were a few titles that looked like they could have been better experiences with more time spent polishing them up or even just making sure they worked at all prior to shipping. As the saying goes - a late game that is good will be remembered for being good but a game that comes out on time but unfinished will be recalled as a turd.
You'll have too many games competing or your time and money as it is. Take a look at sales figures for the last 5 + years , every single year we get a new Call of Duty and every single year everyone buys it. Every single year we get a new assassins creed game and people keep buying those too. Same goes for Fifa and Madden updates. This year we are also finally getting Metal Gear Solid 5 in september and if you own an xbox one - halo 5 and forza 6 will be out. Nintendo might even surprise us and actually finish the new zelda in time for christmas. What I'm getting at is there are a wealth of big name games coming september through december just as there always is - why even compete with that if you don't have to ?
Uncharted 4 will be a much more polished and probably fun game now. I'd be willing to be money that ND COULD have finished this game for christmas but it would have had more than a few compromises- maybe the framerate wouldn't be stable, maybe the single player would be a touch buggier , perhaps there's a stage missing ? Replaced with more cutscenes ? maybe the multiplayer options would be barebones ? Who knows , what I'm saying here is that the game will be a more finished and enjoyable product with 3-5 months more development time.
The door is now wide open for the back half of 2015. Sony can fill this void with anything now. Many people have expressed interest in a remaster of uncharted 1-3 , well what if that comes out and it has the PSvita title in there all in 1080p at 60fps with the multiplayer being a playable beta for uncharted 4s multiplayer ? What if that makes it out this summer now and you've got 6 + months to play through all 4 titles before diving into the new one ? Or maybe even Last guardian is just going to pop out of the wood work and be ready to go later this year ? Who knows right ? This gives sony more options though.
I'll just add my personal thoughts on top of this - I only finished uncharted 1 ,played all of 20 minutes of the second game, didn't touch the third and while I have golden abyss flagged on my vita I've never played it. My interest level in uncharted 4 is perhaps a bit smaller than most because of this but BUT , were I given the opportunity to re-experience all 4 titles in 1080p on my ps4 ? I'd probably be much more invested in Uncharted 4.
Let's get into that just a bit shall we ?
The playstation 4 is selling very well even without an exclusive killer app.
Seriously , Sony is pushing a million + every month since launch and it doesn't like things are slowing down at all. The only territory it's not doing gangbuster sales is sadly Sony's homeland of Japan but that's an issue endemic of non-mobile gaming in general moreso than an exclusive PS4 or even vita problem. Since people keep buying consoles elsewhere, what reason does sony have to rush games out ? Rushing development leads to more problems and is also less cost effective.
Sony hasn't had a real PS4 exclusive hit game. By hit game I'm refering to that must have title that is both a critical darling and a sales success. Sony's first party published efforts have been mostly fruitful sales wise (although nothing has been HUGE) but critically ? Not so much. While I dislike score aggregate sites , it has to be at least a mild annoyance that all of sony's PS4 titles to date have been lacking in the high scores department. Knack 58% on gamerankings / 54 on metacritic. Killzone 73%/73 MLB 2014 83%/83 , Infamous 80% / 80, The Last of Us remastered 96%/95, Drive Club 70%/ 71, The Order 1866 64%/65. Worth noting that the 2 highest rated titles in there are also available on PS3. My point here is that , Sony really needs to make their next big release a FANTASTIC game , not just a nice port or a GOOD game.
2014 was a prime example that more time in the oven is better. Drive Club and Halo master chief collection both had sloppy online play and the latter was riddled with some pretty obvious bugs. Assassins creed unity was released at least 6 months away from actually being finished. Last fall there were a few titles that looked like they could have been better experiences with more time spent polishing them up or even just making sure they worked at all prior to shipping. As the saying goes - a late game that is good will be remembered for being good but a game that comes out on time but unfinished will be recalled as a turd.
You'll have too many games competing or your time and money as it is. Take a look at sales figures for the last 5 + years , every single year we get a new Call of Duty and every single year everyone buys it. Every single year we get a new assassins creed game and people keep buying those too. Same goes for Fifa and Madden updates. This year we are also finally getting Metal Gear Solid 5 in september and if you own an xbox one - halo 5 and forza 6 will be out. Nintendo might even surprise us and actually finish the new zelda in time for christmas. What I'm getting at is there are a wealth of big name games coming september through december just as there always is - why even compete with that if you don't have to ?
Uncharted 4 will be a much more polished and probably fun game now. I'd be willing to be money that ND COULD have finished this game for christmas but it would have had more than a few compromises- maybe the framerate wouldn't be stable, maybe the single player would be a touch buggier , perhaps there's a stage missing ? Replaced with more cutscenes ? maybe the multiplayer options would be barebones ? Who knows , what I'm saying here is that the game will be a more finished and enjoyable product with 3-5 months more development time.
The door is now wide open for the back half of 2015. Sony can fill this void with anything now. Many people have expressed interest in a remaster of uncharted 1-3 , well what if that comes out and it has the PSvita title in there all in 1080p at 60fps with the multiplayer being a playable beta for uncharted 4s multiplayer ? What if that makes it out this summer now and you've got 6 + months to play through all 4 titles before diving into the new one ? Or maybe even Last guardian is just going to pop out of the wood work and be ready to go later this year ? Who knows right ? This gives sony more options though.
I'll just add my personal thoughts on top of this - I only finished uncharted 1 ,played all of 20 minutes of the second game, didn't touch the third and while I have golden abyss flagged on my vita I've never played it. My interest level in uncharted 4 is perhaps a bit smaller than most because of this but BUT , were I given the opportunity to re-experience all 4 titles in 1080p on my ps4 ? I'd probably be much more invested in Uncharted 4.
Alex_Mexico
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JuanLatino
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According to Pachter (LOL) the Deal was worth 10 Mio
can you confirm that Kagari? Because that amount of money sounds ridicolous
Bishop the mod, the doombringer, that which cannot be named.
Haha. But... shouldn't it be even worse if you think of it. The same number of people take longer to complete the same number of games. So less (good) games per year in the long term. I can't complain though, my backlog is big enough.
Jimmyfenix
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What the hell is this
vpance
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Bahaha, no way will that be out this year. "Extended development" is the name of the game for Sony first party (and several others) this gen. GG new IP must not fail so I hope they take their time.
Chobel
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Alex_Mexico
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How much does a game like RotTR's production cost (not counting marketing)? My guess is 20 million which, if true, would mean MS paid for half of its cost in exchange for a 6 month (according to some here) exclusivity. Sounds ridiculous.
Yes, but that's not the correct counterfactual.
The estimate should be "being the premiere cinematic action adventure TPS" this holiday on BOTH platforms.
This delay very likely decreases the value of exclusivity for Square Enix. Microsoft made out like bandits -- at least *relative* to what we knew yesterday regarding the fall schedule.
Considering 3 came out in 2011 and ND is supposedly a 2 team studio I'd wager I might have been until the change in leadership
Mushroomer25
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Alright, if you have a verifiable source - good. I imagine they'll just delay the PS4/PC release until mid-summer, with a solid gap between it and Uncharted.
Chobel
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AAA production budget are way bigger than that, 50M or more.
And I would wager it never was.
i think you should tread carefully now, don't be so brazen with Kagari
Alex_Mexico
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O.O'
I do GAF a lot but haven't been here for long. Still finding the ropes apparently.
Thanks.
I wouldn't be shocked. I'll try and find out.
XxRampage07xX
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Alex_Mexico
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Super n00b question but every user with a red colored name like Kagari means they are a mod?
xxRONN1Nxx
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I'm ok with this for a polished great game
Mix Master
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Is that you Sony marketing team?
Chobel
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Yes.
King Beyond the wall
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Considering the enormous loss of sales and damage to the franchise due to not launching on the console with the biggest TR fanbase in the fall, 10 million doesnt sound ridiculous at all to me.
videogamephilosopher
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Never played an uncharted game that was not A quality. I welcome the delay....because I didn't know when it was going to be released anyway. Backlog continuation of last year commence.
Bish contacts folks that claim to have insider info for some verification to avoid trolls and the like. Swift bans are in place for the jokers. Kagari has been a trusted source of Square Enix news for a while now. So now you know!
It probably is a terrible idea, but I don't know why it's even taking so long to get games out the door, especially for 1st party studios!
The PS4 is supposed to be easy to develop for (relative to the PS3), and these studios only have 1 platform to work on.
At the rate these games are coming out, the total exclusive output is going to pale compared to the PS3, unless this gen is going to be
as long as last gen.
NullPointer
Member
15 mill?
Btw, so ROTTR will be released sometime spring 2016, what about PC version?
Edit: Wrote correct year lol.
No I was just amused by the questions about mods lol.
Alex_Mexico
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I truly do now. I probably wouldn't know this any other way.
Now if you'll excuse me I have to surgically remove a foot from my mouth.
KefkaPalazzo
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Clearly MS paid them in Gil and Square is just now realizing it.
Alex_Mexico
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I think it's safe to say the PC version will release alongside the PS4 version.
Whoever mentioned the thing about Sony pairing up with Assassin's Creed again... eh. No. They did for many years but it's really worn out its welcome hasn't it?
Instead this year they've tied up marketing rights for Metal Gear Solid 5, Batman and there's a rumor they have the new Star Wars too.
Instead this year they've tied up marketing rights for Metal Gear Solid 5, Batman and there's a rumor they have the new Star Wars too.
vpance
Member
I suppose. SE may have ended up making more if it were out on both, but at the time the moneyhat was looked at as an insurance policy and they probably needed to please shareholders in the short term.
Anyways, now there's the hope for SE that if the game does end up doing well MS could swing in with another bag of cash to snatch up full exclusivity. Unless that is off the table?
And again, just because something is "easy" to develop for does not mean games just magically happen.
And that is why Sony will be fine this holiday.
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