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Media Create Sales: Week 10, 2015 (Mar 02 - Mar 08)

Chris1964

Sales-Age Genius
new releases {2015.03.19}

[3DS] Mario Vs. Donkey Kong: Tipping Stars <PZL> (Nintendo) (¥3.024)
[3DS] PriPara & Pretty Rhythm: PriPara Detsuka Eruoshare Item 1450! <ACT> (Takara Tomy) (¥4.299)
[3DS] Devil Summoner: Soul Hackers [Atlus Best Collection] <RPG> (Atlus) (¥3.218)

[PSV] Phantasy Star Online 2 Episode 3: Deluxe Package <RPG> (Sega) (¥5.378)
[PSV] Minecraft: PlayStation Vita Edition <ADV> (Mojang AB) (¥2.592)
[PSV] Irotoridori no Sekai: World's End Re-Birth <ADV> (HuneX) (¥8.964)
[PSV] Muramasa Rebirth + Genroku Kaikitan DLC Zen Shihen Product Code Iri Package <RPG> (Marvelous) (¥4.860)

[WIU] Mario Vs. Donkey Kong: Tipping Stars <PZL> (Nintendo) (¥3.024)

[PS4] Final Fantasy Type-0 HD # <RPG> (Square Enix) (¥7.344)
[PS4] Final Fantasy Type-0 HD (PlayStation 4 Final Fantasy Type-0 HD Suzaku Edition) <RPG> (Square Enix) (¥50.738)
[PS4] Resident Evil: Revelations 2 <ADV> (Capcom) (¥5.389)
[PS4] Battlefield: Hardline <ACT> (Electronic Arts) (¥7.884)

[XB1] Final Fantasy Type-0 HD <RPG> (Square Enix) (¥7.344)
[XB1] Resident Evil: Revelations 2 <ADV> (Capcom) (¥5.389)
[XB1] Battlefield: Hardline <ACT> (Electronic Arts) (¥7.884)

[PS3] Resident Evil: Revelations 2 <ADV> (Capcom) (¥5.389)
[PS3] Battlefield: Hardline <ACT> (Electronic Arts) (¥7.884)

[360] Halo 4 (Xbox 360 500GB Value Pack) <ACT> (Microsoft Game Studios) (¥29.160)
[360] Battlefield: Hardline <ACT> (Electronic Arts) (¥7.884)
 

Oregano

Member
They are both incredibly unlikely to happen.

Nothing of these will happen, especially DQH.



Alt account in sales threads or irrelevant?

Why though? There has been portable versions of nearly every Musou game for the last few years. Vita has seen the vast majority of Musou game since its release.

In the case of Hyrule Warriors there would be the technological barrier but that isn't really there for DQ Heroes and Vita.

Although I guess you could say the fact that it wasn't a simultaneous release in the first place might indicate a lack of interest in developing a Vita version.
 

Chris1964

Sales-Age Genius
If Square didn't bother with Type-0 on Vita I don't see the logic with DQH.

In seriousness, it is true that our comparisons are all relative, and we often lose sight of the larger picture (as AniHawk has deliberately done here).

Discussions of Vita or Wii U showing "signs of life" are almost entirely couched in a comparatively depressed market, where no consoles are doing particularly well. Yes, in comparison to the PS4 and Xbox One, the Wii U is doing okay-ish. Still has the largest sales overall, but really, all of them are doing poorly. Similary, the Vita would be considered a dead system last generation. Lastly, and most importantly, we all essentially ignore the mobile elephant in the room as much as possible, unless someone like me annoying brings up again how rapidly that market is gaining momentum.

I'm not saying that those other frames of reference are necessarily the correct one, but I'm not sure our standard frame of reference is the right one, either.

The big picture is PS4 enters desert land at important or relevant releases from the end of March until the end of August.
 

Oregano

Member
If Square didn't bother with Type-0 on Vita I don't see the logic with DQH.



The big picture is PS4 enters desert land at important from the end of March until the end of August.

Well I think Koei Tecmo/Omega Force would be interested in doing a Vita version, possibly more so than internal SE developers.

I think SE are arguably warming up to Vita as well. I think Kagari implied SaGa 2015 wouldn't be the last of its kind.
 

duckroll

Member
Alt account in sales threads or irrelevant?

I think it was just some previously banned account.

Why though? There has been portable versions of nearly every Musou game for the last few years. Vita has seen the vast majority of Musou game since its release.

In the case of Hyrule Warriors there would be the technological barrier but that isn't really there for DQ Heroes and Vita.

Although I guess you could say the fact that it wasn't a simultaneous release in the first place might indicate a lack of interest in developing a Vita version.

I don't think it's likely because for major core game releases, Square Enix seems to be moving away from Vita and onto the PS4. In terms of technical barriers, the game already performs better on the PS4 than the PS3, so having to downgrade it even further for the Vita seems to be extra work when they could be putting that effort towards a sequel instead.
 
I thought Prince of Tennis would do more....I guess it's just not that popular anymore?

I'm really surprised with the PS4 hold. I wonder if the momentum is going to continue throughout the year.
 

Oregano

Member
I think it was just some previously banned account.



I don't think it's likely because for major core game releases, Square Enix seems to be moving away from Vita and onto the PS4. In terms of technical barriers, the game already performs better on the PS4 than the PS3, so having to downgrade it even further for the Vita seems to be extra work when they could be putting that effort towards a sequel instead.

Fair enough, I did forget about the performance gulf between PS4 and PS3. TK have shown they have capability though, Warriors Orochi 3 got a PSP version!
 

Kyoufu

Member
Pure hypothetical speculation: if DQXI or whatever Hori is planning for big screens implies a PlayStation console title, then I'd think DQH exists purely to build a user base on said systems. Vita doesn't fit into that plan, so no Vita version exists. Plus like Duckroll says, the downgrade isn't worth their time.
 

Parakeetman

No one wants a throne you've been sitting on!
Pure hypothetical speculation: if DQXI or whatever Hori is planning for big screens implies a PlayStation console title, then I'd think DQH exists purely to build a user base on said systems. Vita doesn't fit into that plan, so no Vita version exists. Plus like Duckroll says, the downgrade isn't worth their time.

Yep pretty much since the portable musou versions of the game show that it loses a lot of the cool factor from seeing enemies all over the place with the constant vanishing and popping in. Had seen this first hand myself with Orochi Musou even though I still enjoyed the game on the Vita.

Also the more complex enviros am sure played another part in them not wanting to stick it on the Vita.
 

ZSaberLink

Media Create Maven
@ZhugeEX probably has an opinion on this.

Why is Koei-Tecmo trying so hard to cultivate a Warriors fanbase on Vita when they have the 3DS? Is it simply because it's easy to port these games from PS3 and harder to make games on 3DS? The first SWC was fairly successful on 3DS, 2nd was just an expansion (I heard it sold more though... like closer to 100K), and SWC3 still sold similarly on PSV and 3DS despite the PSV clearly being the main platform.

73 3DS Samurai Warriors Chronicles 43,044 155,059 Koei Tecmo 2011-02-26
128 3DS Samurai Warriors Chronicles 2nd 35,806 68,360 Koei Tecmo 2012-09-13
162 3DS Dynasty Warriors VS 15,607 45,870 Koei Tecmo 2012-04-26
189 - 3DS Samurai Warriors Chronicles 3 17,646 30,357 Koei Tecmo 2014-12-0


29 PSV One Piece: Pirate Warriors 2 54,509 103,757 Bandai Namco 2013-03-20
31 + PSV Samurai Warriors 4 43,545 100,477 Koei Tecmo 2014-03-20
32 + PSV Dynasty Warriors: Gundam Reborn 44,889 96,021 Bandai Namco 2013-12-19
40 PSV Dynasty Warriors Next 32,044 80,052 Koei Tecmo 2011-12-17
62 - PSV Warriors Orochi 3 Ultimate 24,825 48,225 Koei Tecmo 2013-09-26
77 - PSV Samurai Warriors Chronicles 3 23,644 35,109 Koei Tecmo 2014-12-04
91 PSV Samurai Warriors 4-II 21,977 30,012 Koei Tecmo 2015-02-11
153 PSV Dynasty Warriors 8 with Xtreme Legends 11,627 11,627 Koei Tecmo 2013-11-28
 

sphinx

the piano man
out of pure curiosity...

anyone has the MC/Famitsu numbers for Dragon Quest Swords: The masked Queen and the tower of Mirrors for Wii?

I'd like to know what will come on top, that or Dragon Quest Heroes.
 

ZSaberLink

Media Create Maven
out of pure curiosity...

anyone has the MC/Famitsu numbers for Dragon Quest Swords: The masked Queen and the tower of Mirrors for Wii?

I'd like to know what will come on top, that or Dragon Quest Heroes.

What jackdoe said looks right for JP:

27 - WII Dragon Quest Swords: The Masked Queen and the Tower of Mirrors 302,066 495,228 Square Enix 2007-07-12
 

Garou

Member
I thought Prince of Tennis would do more....I guess it's just not that popular anymore?

I'm really surprised with the PS4 hold. I wonder if the momentum is going to continue throughout the year.

Well there is no anime on TV, the manga only publishes once a month and this game isn't even a tennis-game, but rather a visual novel/dating-sim.

On top of it this one seems to be crap, I read reviews complaining that one playtthrough took 3 hours.
 

mao2

Member
@ZhugeEX probably has an opinion on this.

Why is Koei-Tecmo trying so hard to cultivate a Warriors fanbase on Vita when they have the 3DS? Is it simply because it's easy to port these games from PS3 and harder to make games on 3DS? The first SWC was fairly successful on 3DS, 2nd was just an expansion (I heard it sold more though... like closer to 100K), and SWC3 still sold similarly on PSV and 3DS despite the PSV clearly being the main platform.

73 3DS Samurai Warriors Chronicles 43,044 155,059 Koei Tecmo 2011-02-26
128 3DS Samurai Warriors Chronicles 2nd 35,806 68,360 Koei Tecmo 2012-09-13
162 3DS Dynasty Warriors VS 15,607 45,870 Koei Tecmo 2012-04-26
189 - 3DS Samurai Warriors Chronicles 3 17,646 30,357 Koei Tecmo 2014-12-0


29 PSV One Piece: Pirate Warriors 2 54,509 103,757 Bandai Namco 2013-03-20
31 + PSV Samurai Warriors 4 43,545 100,477 Koei Tecmo 2014-03-20
32 + PSV Dynasty Warriors: Gundam Reborn 44,889 96,021 Bandai Namco 2013-12-19
40 PSV Dynasty Warriors Next 32,044 80,052 Koei Tecmo 2011-12-17
62 - PSV Warriors Orochi 3 Ultimate 24,825 48,225 Koei Tecmo 2013-09-26
77 - PSV Samurai Warriors Chronicles 3 23,644 35,109 Koei Tecmo 2014-12-04
91 PSV Samurai Warriors 4-II 21,977 30,012 Koei Tecmo 2015-02-11
153 PSV Dynasty Warriors 8 with Xtreme Legends 11,627 11,627 Koei Tecmo 2013-11-28
Like you said, it's probably easier to port from PS3 to Vita. Also, SCE could be giving them incentives if they make a Vita version too. After all, Warriors series is an important third party IP to PlayStation.
 
so happy that Vita is last Sony handheld so in the future this port begging "Why game X is on Vita and not on the spectacular, amazing and awesome 3DS???" will cease
 

casiopao

Member
so happy that Vita is last Sony handheld so in the future this port begging "Why game X is on Vita and not on the spectacular, amazing and awesome 3DS???" will cease

It will change into why this super awesome game is on console rather than this super rad handheld then.
 

ZSaberLink

Media Create Maven
so happy that Vita is last Sony handheld so in the future this port begging "Why game X is on Vita and not on the spectacular, amazing and awesome 3DS???" will cease

Are you talking about my post? I couldn't care less personally whether the game is really on 3DS/Vita. I just am trying to understand the business logic when the games don't seem to do that well on Vita. Like I get OP Warriors 3 for example. I don't really get SWC3 or w/e. It clearly has an audience on PS3 (although I guess there's only so many games you can release in a short time before the fanbase eventually gets tired of it) and hopefully it builds an audience somewhere else (Vita, PS4, 3DS, Wii U, etc.) but it seems like they're trying to build an audience on Vita and haven't been too successful. Then again, maybe it's one of the few franchises Japan just prefers on consoles, and that'd be cool for once.
 

mao2

Member
Are you talking about my post? I couldn't care less personally whether the game is really on 3DS/Vita. I just am trying to understand the business logic when the games don't seem to do that well on Vita. Like I get OP Warriors 3 for example. I don't really get SWC3 or w/e. It clearly has an audience on PS3 (although I guess there's only so many games you can release in a short time before the fanbase eventually gets tired of it) and hopefully it builds an audience somewhere else (Vita, PS4, 3DS, Wii U, etc.) but it seems like they're trying to build an audience on Vita and haven't been too successful. Then again, maybe it's one of the few franchises Japan just prefers on consoles, and that'd be cool for once.
Warriors series have always sold better on home consoles. I'm sure their Vita titles are successful, otherwise they wouldn't be pumping out so many of them. In their previous financial report, Koei Tecmo mentioned that Samurai Warriors: Chronicles 3 did well, despite selling less than its predecessor.
https://www.koeitecmo.co.jp/php/pdf/news_20150130.pdf
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SWC3 still sold similarly on PSV and 3DS despite the PSV clearly being the main platform.

Other way around, I think. Visually, SWC3 looked rubbish for a Vita game compared to previous multiplatform efforts, and the 3DS version got much more attention/marketing push for being one of the first games to support the New 3DS' c-stick.
 

hiska-kun

Member
This week's releases {2015.03.12}
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[PS3] [PS4] Yakuza 0 <ADV> (Sega) (¥8.845)

[WIIU] Mario Party 10 # <ETC> (Nintendo) (¥5.616)

[PSV] Digimon Story: Cyber Sleuth <RPG> (Bandai Namco Games) (¥7.171)

[3DS] Monster Hunter 4 Ultimate (New Nintendo 3DS LL Monster Hunter 4 Ultimate New Hunter Pack) <ACT> (Capcom) (¥25.920)

[PS3] [PSV] Winning Post 8 2015 <SLG> (Koei Tecmo) (¥7.776) (¥6.264)

[PSP] Uta no Prince-Sama: All Star After Secret # <ADV> (Broccoli) (¥6.264)

[PSV] Harukanaru Toki no Naka de 6 # <ADV> (Koei Tecmo) (¥7.344)

[3DS] Ansatsu Kyoushitsu: Korosensei Daihouimou!! <ACT> (Bandai Namco Games) (¥6.145)

New Amiibos: Super Mario Series
 

mao2

Member
As usual, thanks for the pics hiska-kun. Looking forward to see if Yakuza 0 has any significant impact on PS4 hardware sales.
 

ZSaberLink

Media Create Maven
Other way around, I think. Visually, SWC3 looked rubbish for a Vita game compared to previous multiplatform efforts, and the 3DS version got much more attention/marketing push for being one of the first games to support the New 3DS' c-stick.

Hm, most people on these threads clearly pegged it as the main platform being Vita. Zhuge could probably clarify.

Also what was wrong with the Vita version? It looks fine here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjrGaRE7yWA
 

Parakeetman

No one wants a throne you've been sitting on!
This week's releases {2015.03.12}

no offense but its because of your big ass pictures that you are on the ignore list.

seriously shit with your oversized photos got old real fast.

while its great that you want to "share" with others what cover art looks like the massive photos really is not cool at all. esp if its a constant thing.
 

Cassovia

Member
Poor PSP, it's finally coming to an end. Only three more games due out now (with the last two both due April 23rd), unless something else is announced soon!

Well, I found it wonderful that there is a new game release in 2015.
It's been more than 10 years for the PSP on that market.
 

hiska-kun

Member
no offense but its because of your big ass pictures that you are on the ignore list.

seriously shit with your oversized photos got old real fast.

while its great that you want to "share" with others what cover art looks like the massive photos really is not cool at all. esp if its a constant thing.

If you know how to reduce the photos I could do it. Some people like to see them, otherwise I would've stopped long time ago.

Anyway, you only will need to wait one month more since I stop posting these pics.
 
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