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Amir0x

Banned
Well I watched every episode of the show, glad I did. Show is probably the best show on CN right now.

There's a lot of shows people like on Cartoon Network that I've sat through many episodes and just couldn't do it. Gumball is a good example of that, so is Uncle Grandpa and things like Kids Next Door from back in the day that they're apparently bringing back now.

I'm not disparaging anyone's taste, but for me these shows were empty of heart, their writing was quite typical of throwaway "Saturday Morning Cartoon" dreck (which isn't to say it's a Saturday morning cartoon, but that when people remember fondly how rad Saturday Mornings used to be for cartoons as children they forget how much garbage was sandwiched in between the good shows. I think Kids Next Door would have been such a throwaway show imo). Lots of sight gags and physical humour, but lacking that next tier - actual character drama that is funny but simultaneously says something meaningful.

Steven Universe is a show whose inspirations are so firmly rooted in reality that you can almost see the real people that made these characters possible. When you see the drama between Lars and Renaldo, that externalized attack by Lars - that Renaldo would care what people think if he knew what they said about him behind his back - was alarmingly truthful, it clearly spoke to a real experience someone must have had or heard about. Not that anything supernatural was connected to it, but the pain of trying to be someone you're not merely to try not to look 'uncool' in the eyes of society around you. The same goes for Connie, who says to Steven if he really wanted to stop being friends she would stop and go back to having no friends again, if only he said it to her face. These are powerful character driven moments that are earned throughout the shows episodes, and is something the writers deserved to have so effectively delivered because you know it's coming from a real place. How many GAFers can't relate to growing up lonely, head in their books, having few friends and holding on tightly to the ones they did have? Connie is smart, accomplished and a truly loyal friend... but she also has strict parents and her bookworm-ish nature by default sets her apart from other kids. That's real life unfortunately, but it also means the show has a captivating undercurrent that is as mesmerizing as it is astonishingly well written.

And there are countless characters from Sadie to Greg who are similarly well fleshed out, through carefully inserted character moments that really maximize the usefulness of eleven minutes of air time.

To me, that's why Steven Universe is not just the best show on Cartoon Network right now, but also one of the better shows the channel has ever had after one season. It's playing in the big leagues now as far as I'm concerned.
 

rexor0717

Member
And there are countless characters from Sadie to Greg who are similarly well fleshed out, through carefully inserted character moments that really maximize the usefulness of eleven minutes of air time.
This is the most impressive part to me. They've managed to establish these side characters so well that the smallest actions can really tell you a lot of about them. They don't need a lot of screen time to still feel like real people who are living their own lives outside of the plot. As for the main characters, they've been shown to be nuanced so you can feel right reading a lot into their actions. Nothing ever feels wasted because everything helps you learn something about them, even if it's not consequential to the plot.
 

The Technomancer

card-carrying scientician
^Agreed. Steven Universe is a cut above most everything else I've seen on TV right now. It just pinpoints the characterizations its trying to express and embodies them in the most real, developed, heartfelt ways possible. I'm incredibly glad I gave this show another look.
 

Puruzi

Banned
There's a lot of shows people like on Cartoon Network that I've sat through many episodes and just couldn't do it. Gumball is a good example of that, so is Uncle Grandpa and things like Kids Next Door from back in the day that they're apparently bringing back now.

I'm not disparaging anyone's taste, but for me these shows were empty of heart, their writing was quite typical of throwaway "Saturday Morning Cartoon" dreck (which isn't to say it's a Saturday morning cartoon, but that when people remember fondly how rad Saturday Mornings used to be for cartoons as children they forget how much garbage was sandwiched in between the good shows. I think Kids Next Door would have been such a throwaway show imo). Lots of sight gags and physical humour, but lacking that next tier - actual character drama that is funny but simultaneously says something meaningful.

Steven Universe is a show whose inspirations are so firmly rooted in reality that you can almost see the real people that made these characters possible. When you see the drama between Lars and Renaldo, that externalized attack by Lars - that Renaldo would care what people think if he knew what they said about him behind his back - was alarmingly truthful, it clearly spoke to a real experience someone must have had or heard about. Not that anything supernatural was connected to it, but the pain of trying to be someone you're not merely to try not to look 'uncool' in the eyes of society around you. The same goes for Connie, who says to Steven if he really wanted to stop being friends she would stop and go back to having no friends again, if only he said it to her face. These are powerful character driven moments that are earned throughout the shows episodes, and is something the writers deserved to have so effectively delivered because you know it's coming from a real place. How many GAFers can't relate to growing up lonely, head in their books, having few friends and holding on tightly to the ones they did have? Connie is smart, accomplished and a truly loyal friend... but she also has strict parents and her bookworm-ish nature by default sets her apart from other kids. That's real life unfortunately, but it also means the show has a captivating undercurrent that is as mesmerizing as it is astonishingly well written.

And there are countless characters from Sadie to Greg who are similarly well fleshed out, through carefully inserted character moments that really maximize the usefulness of eleven minutes of air time.

To me, that's why Steven Universe is not just the best show on Cartoon Network right now, but also one of the better shows the channel has ever had after one season. It's playing in the big leagues now as far as I'm concerned.
Not saying it's wrong to dislike KND, but it did have character development and story arcs.
I also like Regular Show, Adventure Time, and Gumball. Shows like Clarence and Uncle Grandpa are awful though.
I also agree that Steven Universe is top tier, definitely hangs with CN's best.
 

TheOGB

Banned
Gumball and KND are really good in their own rights, but Steven Universe is clearly, undeniably on some next level shit. Could go on to be CN's best ever, really.
 

Amir0x

Banned
Not saying it's wrong to dislike KND, but it did have character development and story arcs.
I also like Regular Show, Adventure Time, and Gumball. Shows like Clarence and Uncle Grandpa are awful though.
I also agree that Steven Universe is top tier, definitely hangs with CN's best.

I mean technically Ed, Edd and Eddy had characterization, but it's all about the quality of it and how authentic it feels within the rules of governing any particular written universe. I wasn't suggesting these negative shows lacked 'story arcs' (of course they have them), but that they simply weren't executed at a high level. It is typical Saturday Morning cartoon pap, in other words.

Kids Next Door for me was just vapid, silly 'fun'... to me, a show like Recess exposed how weak KND was. The character arcs don't have that depth to them, the show isn't about telling a multilayered story with complex themes. And that's fine to an extent, but to me a show that really is top of the class needs to understand how to marry its lighter elements with the more complex thematic moments such as they exist (and KND rarely had those).

A good illustration of just the type of fire Steven Universe is successfully playing with is in the Maximum Capacity episode. The raw emotional content of that episode is so deep compared to what is typically shown on the channel that even I was taken aback. When Amethyst transformed into Rose Quartz and Greg says "you can't do this to me again" or whatever, I mean... how would a little kid even grasp the full implication of how many thousand ways that was profoundly fucked up? I mean as an adult I think about what such a situation would mean, having a 'friend' transform into what was the love of your life who passed away to MOCK you... the pain that would cause. And then the shock and pain it caused to Steven to see his mother that way. The show juggled that immensely complicated bit of emotional devilry whilst also still splitting ones side with "Little Butler" sitcom. That was some writing wizardry as far as I'm concerned, and again illustrates the level this show is playing at.

Regular Show and Adventure Time are two other Cartoon Network staples I'd say are most like Steven Universe in terms of how deftly they can juggle the comedy and the character drama, even whilst they have different themes and focuses. Adventure Time is a bit more uneven than Steven Universe though, which is to say AT has more lows than SU does but its highs are perhaps a bit higher at times. But overall the consistency of Steven Universe thus far has impressed me, even the 'filler' episodes tend to have some meaningful character moments. AT can be a bit TOO silly for its own good for certain filler episodes :p
 

KiN0

Member
There's a lot of shows people like on Cartoon Network that I've sat through many episodes and just couldn't do it. Gumball is a good example of that, so is Uncle Grandpa and things like Kids Next Door from back in the day that they're apparently bringing back now.

I'm not disparaging anyone's taste, but for me these shows were empty of heart, their writing was quite typical of throwaway "Saturday Morning Cartoon" dreck (which isn't to say it's a Saturday morning cartoon, but that when people remember fondly how rad Saturday Mornings used to be for cartoons as children they forget how much garbage was sandwiched in between the good shows. I think Kids Next Door would have been such a throwaway show imo). Lots of sight gags and physical humour, but lacking that next tier - actual character drama that is funny but simultaneously says something meaningful.

Steven Universe is a show whose inspirations are so firmly rooted in reality that you can almost see the real people that made these characters possible. When you see the drama between Lars and Renaldo, that externalized attack by Lars - that Renaldo would care what people think if he knew what they said about him behind his back - was alarmingly truthful, it clearly spoke to a real experience someone must have had or heard about. Not that anything supernatural was connected to it, but the pain of trying to be someone you're not merely to try not to look 'uncool' in the eyes of society around you. The same goes for Connie, who says to Steven if he really wanted to stop being friends she would stop and go back to having no friends again, if only he said it to her face. These are powerful character driven moments that are earned throughout the shows episodes, and is something the writers deserved to have so effectively delivered because you know it's coming from a real place. How many GAFers can't relate to growing up lonely, head in their books, having few friends and holding on tightly to the ones they did have? Connie is smart, accomplished and a truly loyal friend... but she also has strict parents and her bookworm-ish nature by default sets her apart from other kids. That's real life unfortunately, but it also means the show has a captivating undercurrent that is as mesmerizing as it is astonishingly well written.

And there are countless characters from Sadie to Greg who are similarly well fleshed out, through carefully inserted character moments that really maximize the usefulness of eleven minutes of air time.

To me, that's why Steven Universe is not just the best show on Cartoon Network right now, but also one of the better shows the channel has ever had after one season. It's playing in the big leagues now as far as I'm concerned.

Not to derail the thread further, but what exactly did you dislike about Gumball?
 
Alright, so recently all I've been seeing on Tumblr is Steven Universe. People seem to be going apeshit for this show, and there was some debacle about bronies or something, but anyway, seeing it so much piqued my interest and I thought I'd give it a shot. I loved the theme song right off the bat, melodic and catchy as hell, but also short and sweet. The show itself though is pretty amazing to say the least, I love that it manages to combine fantasy and sci-fi elements into one show, but what really got me hooked was the backstory and Steven's search for identity. There's so much mystery surrounding Gem history and Steven's mom, it makes me want to keep watching so I can know more about the lore.

Anyway, I ended up powering through 49 episodes. Garnet is easily my favourite Gem, she's a fucking badass. Are spoilers allowed in here?
 
Alright, so recently all I've been seeing on Tumblr is Steven Universe. People seem to be going apeshit for this show, and there was some debacle about bronies or something, but anyway, seeing it so much piqued my interest and I thought I'd give it a shot. I loved the theme song right off the bat, melodic and catchy as hell, but also short and sweet. The show itself though is pretty amazing to say the least, I love that it manages to combine fantasy and sci-fi elements into one show, but what really got me hooked was the backstory and Steven's search for identity. There's so much mystery surrounding Gem history and Steven's mom, it makes me want to keep watching so I can know more about the lore.

Anyway, I ended up powering through 49 episodes. Garnet is easily my favourite Gem, she's a fucking badass. Are spoilers allowed in here?
I haven't really understood what spoiler policy is exactly but seems to be that once an episode has had decent breathing room you can talk about it without tags.
 

Puruzi

Banned
Garnet is so fucking based.

"But I think you're just mad cause you're single."
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Hamlet

Member
I haven't really understood what spoiler policy is exactly but seems to be that once an episode has had decent breathing room you can talk about it without tags.

Pretty sure it's spoiler tags till the new episode has aired on both coasts. After that fair game. Also spoiler tag any leaks or previews I think.
 
The Jailbreak episode duo really blew this show up huh?

Yeah, its weird because it didn't have very good ratings for a season finale either. I guess it had really good ratings for the adult demographic which is most of the people discussing it on the internet? Or are people just pirating the shit out of the show?
 
I haven't really understood what spoiler policy is exactly but seems to be that once an episode has had decent breathing room you can talk about it without tags.

In that case what the fuck was that Gem that Lapis and Jasper fused into? It looked so awesome! I'm a bit disappointed that there wasn't a huge fight scene, but I'm glad that Lapis didn't end up being evil.
 
Yeah, its weird because it didn't have very good ratings for a season finale either. I guess it had really good ratings for the adult demographic which is most of the people discussing it on the internet? Or are people just pirating the shit out of the show?
Seems to be more like tumblr made it explode and word of mouth after the fact from people around the Internet sparked interest. I wouldn't be surprised with piracy but look at what happened to Hannibal on NBC. Show wasn't getting that great of ratings but season 2 exploded interest.
 

Hamlet

Member
The Jailbreak episode duo really blew this show up huh?
Stevenbomb was the best thing to happen to this show.

Yeah, its weird because it didn't have very good ratings for a season finale either. I guess it had really good ratings for the adult demographic which is most of the people discussing it on the internet? Or are people just pirating the shit out of the show?

It still got second place on CN that night though. Plus pretty much everything was down that week anyway because of daylight savings change.
 

MartyStu

Member
Finally caught up. This show is amazing.

More consistent than Adventure Time, but I think that show has much higher highs and concepts.

Somehow, the last episode I ended up watching was Cat Fingers,

That is some crazy body horror shit right there. Not sure I will be able to watch it again...
 

Puruzi

Banned
Finally caught up. This show is amazing.

More consistent than Adventure Time, but I think that show has much higher highs and concepts.

Somehow, the last episode I ended up watching was Cat Fingers,

That is some crazy body horror shit right there. Not sure I will be able to watch it again...

Cat Fingers freaked me the fuck out, shit was extreme.
 

Kangi

Member
All these people being brought into the show (or catching up with it) thanks to Stevenbomb makes me happy. Keep spreadin' the word.
 

Not

Banned
+1 on the "Never Watching Cat Fingers or Watermelon Steven Again" boat

Pfft, is that what was going on? Sounds super childish.

Well, a lot of Tumblr users are 14, and a great deal of 14-years-olds are children.

A lot of 34-year old Gamergaters are children too. At a certain point it's not about age
 

Opto

Banned
I just watched the episode where Amethyst shifts to look like Rose to mess with Greg and jesus christ that scene is disturbing
 

KiN0

Member
I just watched the episode where Amethyst shifts to look like Rose to mess with Greg and jesus christ that scene is disturbing
Easily in my top 10 moments in the series. Really set the series apart from its contemporaries.
 

Kangi

Member
+1 on the "Never Watching Cat Fingers or Watermelon Steven Again" boat

Watermelon Steven's too funny for me to not watch again.

"Heeeelp! They're gonna put me in the ground! *sobs hysterically*"

Watermelons are seen digging a grave while another walks up with a bouquet.

"*still sobbing* Those flowers are lovely!"
 
I loved the theme song right off the bat, melodic and catchy as hell, but also short and sweet.

You should watch the pilot, which has the "full" theme song in it. I fucking LOVE the theme song to Steven Universe. It's up there with like... DuckTales and Rescue Rangers for me, even though it's a fraction of the length.

Pfft, is that what was going on? Sounds super childish.

Ok what seems to be going on it, now that SU is blowing up, a lot of the people who ruined MLP for kids, AKA the gross Bronies that think that show is "for them" started to come after the SU fanbase. They were calling themselves "Gemtlemen" or some stupid shit and trying to do to SU what they did to MLP. The SU fanbase revolted and revolted HARD, because when you search My Little Pony in Google you get a bunch of fuckin porn, and they don't want that to happen to Steven Universe. They're essentially trying to protect the show's audience, "everyone" (but mainly kids) from having it turn from something safe and enjoyable into a disgusting pornographic wreck.
 
Ok what seems to be going on it, now that SU is blowing up, a lot of the people who ruined MLP for kids, AKA the gross Bronies that think that show is "for them" started to come after the SU fanbase. They were calling themselves "Gemtlemen" or some stupid shit and trying to do to SU what they did to MLP. The SU fanbase revolted and revolted HARD, because when you search My Little Pony in Google you get a bunch of fuckin porn, and they don't want that to happen to Steven Universe. They're essentially trying to protect the show's audience, "everyone" (but mainly kids) from having it turn from something safe and enjoyable into a disgusting pornographic wreck.

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Puruzi

Banned
Ok what seems to be going on it, now that SU is blowing up, a lot of the people who ruined MLP for kids, AKA the gross Bronies that think that show is "for them" started to come after the SU fanbase. They were calling themselves "Gemtlemen" or some stupid shit and trying to do to SU what they did to MLP. The SU fanbase revolted and revolted HARD, because when you search My Little Pony in Google you get a bunch of fuckin porn, and they don't want that to happen to Steven Universe. They're essentially trying to protect the show's audience, "everyone" (but mainly kids) from having it turn from something safe and enjoyable into a disgusting pornographic wreck.

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Banzai

Member
They were calling themselves "Gemtlemen" or some stupid shit

...what. That almost sounds like it's supposed to be ironic and self-aware, but knowing the internet it's probably not.
It's insane how the only real reason any adult should ever have to feel ashamed for watching a well written show like SU (and MLP? no idea never watched it) is the idiots who go off the fucking rails with the fandom and start screaming "Let me be a unique snowflake!" when noone would give a damn, who create "questionable" fan-content and who carry creepy body pillows in public or whatever.
 

Toxi

Banned
Haha yeah, the Gem's reactions at the end there never fails to not get a laugh out of me.
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Even Garnet has a "wow, this is messed up" face. Priceless.

I think Pearl has my favorite facial expressions among the main cast, but nothing so far has beaten Steven's glorious pun face.

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Firehead

Member
...what. That almost sounds like it's supposed to be ironic and self-aware, but knowing the internet it's probably not.
It's insane how the only real reason any adult should ever have to feel ashamed for watching a well written show like SU (and MLP? no idea never watched it) is the idiots who go off the fucking rails with the fandom and start screaming "Let me be a unique snowflake!" when noone would give a damn, who create "questionable" fan-content and who carry creepy body pillows in public or whatever.

Exactly. Nail on the head and all that. And I love Steven Universe and Friendship is Magic. Everyone makes 'questionable' content of everything anyways, so why let that hinder your enjoyment of... anything?

Anyways, we're starting to get a bit off-topic with all this. No need for insecurities and the like. <3
 
I had to draw fan art of the "the hot one", I was planning on doing this right after "Political Power" aired...but I was feelin' kind of lazy that day.
:p

Ok what seems to be going on it, now that SU is blowing up, a lot of the people who ruined MLP for kids, AKA the gross Bronies that think that show is "for them" started to come after the SU fanbase. They were calling themselves "Gemtlemen" or some stupid shit and trying to do to SU what they did to MLP. The SU fanbase revolted and revolted HARD, because when you search My Little Pony in Google you get a bunch of fuckin porn, and they don't want that to happen to Steven Universe. They're essentially trying to protect the show's audience, "everyone" (but mainly kids) from having it turn from something safe and enjoyable into a disgusting pornographic wreck.


Hmmm, from what I've gathered from the SU subreddit it seems like the whole gentlemen thing was actually blown way out of proportion by certain SU fan blogs on tumblr...
Apparently a prominent MLP fan site promoted Steven Universe during the week of the Stevenbomb and SU fans who aren't fond of brony culture or the nasty stereotypes that surround it quickly raised a stink about the idea of them being in or contributing to the fan-base (Which people in the crewniverse, like Ian , have already commented on. They all seem to think the negative reaction coming from some fans is pretty ridiculous/childish)
As far as I can tell the whole "gemtlemen" thing doesn't really seem like something people seriously call themselves...it's basically equivalent to those ridiculous fake tumblr post that anti-"SJW" people come up with to make fun of people (specifically young non-cisnormative people)
 

PBalfredo

Member
Like many, I caught wind of all of the good buzz going around the show and dove in this weekend. Got caught up to the latest episode and I'm loving it. I'll definitely be watching it going forward, but a few questions in that regard. So Jail Break was the end of season 1, but we still got episodes to come right now? But only some and then a break? And there is going to be a crossover? Is that going to be Uncle Grandpa appearing on Steven Universe, or the SU crew appearing on Uncle Grandpa? What's the deal?
 

VariantX

Member
Ok what seems to be going on it, now that SU is blowing up, a lot of the people who ruined MLP for kids, AKA the gross Bronies that think that show is "for them" started to come after the SU fanbase. They were calling themselves "Gemtlemen" or some stupid shit and trying to do to SU what they did to MLP. The SU fanbase revolted and revolted HARD, because when you search My Little Pony in Google you get a bunch of fuckin porn, and they don't want that to happen to Steven Universe. They're essentially trying to protect the show's audience, "everyone" (but mainly kids) from having it turn from something safe and enjoyable into a disgusting pornographic wreck.

The hell?? Cartoons are serious bidness...
 

Puruzi

Banned
I wonder if that SUxUG crossover is gonna be canon.
I'm honestly not thrilled about it, I hate Uncle Grandpa so god damn much.
 

Kai Dracon

Writing a dinosaur space opera symphony
The writers for the show responded to the "Gemtlemen" thing a bit ago, on twitter and such. I'm not so sure this was really some kind of "brony invasion" and more images of every brony cliche bubbling up in the fanbase at the prospect of a group trying to create a special name for adult, male, fans of the show.

Thing is, Steven Universe already has a rapidly growing universal audience. The show is written to be accessible to younger viewers, while cleverly dealing with subject matter a lot of live action dramas fail at. It would be redundant to try and make a banner for adult viewers to gather under, and the creators have said as much. Remarking that it's actually damaging - because it insinuates that shows like SU, Gravity Falls, etc, are fundamentally only for children because they are animated, and adults must declare a special exception to watch them. That's the cliche animation has been burdened with in the US for decades.

A few folks have remarked that Steven Universe is doing a lot to help rescue American produced animation for TV from the "comedy ghetto" - the stereotype that the only cartoons suitable for adults are pure sitcoms or satire like The Simpsons, Family Guy, or The Venture Bros. SU has a lot of comedy, but it's also a genuine, non-ironic family drama and science fiction show.
 

Toxi

Banned
Gave it another Shot and im up to Episode 20, yeah the show grows on you and im glad Im catching up to it now.
Season 1 starts out very slow with lots of silly and seemingly irrelevant episodes. After around the point where you're watching, the show starts throwing a lot more dramatic and obviously plot-relevant episodes. If you've made it this far and you like it, you're gonna love what comes next.
 

PaulloDEC

Member
Ok what seems to be going on it, now that SU is blowing up, a lot of the people who ruined MLP for kids, AKA the gross Bronies that think that show is "for them" started to come after the SU fanbase. They were calling themselves "Gemtlemen" or some stupid shit and trying to do to SU what they did to MLP. The SU fanbase revolted and revolted HARD, because when you search My Little Pony in Google you get a bunch of fuckin porn, and they don't want that to happen to Steven Universe. They're essentially trying to protect the show's audience, "everyone" (but mainly kids) from having it turn from something safe and enjoyable into a disgusting pornographic wreck.

This is getting weird. So there's like a not-so-secret society of people attempting to flood Google with Steven Universe porn and claiming responsibility for doing the same with MLP? Why can't people just watch a damn cartoon and leave it at that?

Hmmm, from what I've gathered from the SU subreddit it seems like the whole gentlemen thing was actually blown way out of proportion by certain SU fan blogs on tumblr...
Apparently a prominent MLP fan site promoted Steven Universe during the week of the Stevenbomb and SU fans who aren't fond of brony culture or the nasty stereotypes that surround it quickly raised a stink about the idea of them being in or contributing to the fan-base (Which people in the crewniverse, like Ian , have already commented on. They all seem to think the negative reaction coming from some fans is pretty ridiculous/childish)
As far as I can tell the whole "gemtlemen" thing doesn't really seem like something people seriously call themselves...it's basically equivalent to those ridiculous fake tumblr post that anti-"SJW" people come up with to make fun of people (specifically young non-cisnormative people)

That all sounds pretty business-as-usual for the internet. Hopefully it all gets boring nice and quickly and everyone can move on with their lives.
 
Ok what seems to be going on it, now that SU is blowing up, a lot of the people who ruined MLP for kids, AKA the gross Bronies that think that show is "for them" started to come after the SU fanbase. They were calling themselves "Gemtlemen" or some stupid shit and trying to do to SU what they did to MLP. The SU fanbase revolted and revolted HARD, because when you search My Little Pony in Google you get a bunch of fuckin porn, and they don't want that to happen to Steven Universe. They're essentially trying to protect the show's audience, "everyone" (but mainly kids) from having it turn from something safe and enjoyable into a disgusting pornographic wreck.
I don't go to tumblr at all, but last I heard about that commotion, the creator of Equestria Daily (the popular My Little Pony blog) planned on making a blog about Steven Universe, but he has since canceled those plans due to the backlash from tumblr. As for what bronies are trying to turn the SU fan base into...yeah, no. Speaking as a now casual fan of MLP, I really don't want that same sickening bullshit associated with Steven Universe. Fuck that.

EDIT: Okay, so apparently that brony influence thing wasn't really a thing. Nevermind then.
 

jwk94

Member
So the girl I'm dating really likes anime and Attack on Titan. I know she would watch Steven Universe with me even if she didn't like the show, but I want this to be our show, ya know? So, I don't want to mess up the intro episode for her.

Usually, I get people into SU by putting on Giant Woman and then they're hooked from there. However, she's not a fan of shonen anime (Yu Yu Hakusho, DBZ, One Piece, that kinda stuff) so idk what to hook her with =/ Any suggestions? I thought maybe Laser Light Cannon but then again I'm not too sure.
 
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