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Jotamide
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Perhaps Sony is helping them financially?
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Future NIS games to be PS4/Vita only, new PS4 game releasing later this year
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Perhaps Sony is helping them financially?
Interesting!
I was of the belief that the Disgaea series was always a middling sort of franchise that never did super well, but never tanked either, always pulling in decent numbers for mainline releases.
It'll be interesting to see how well it ends up performing when all is said and done. I wonder just how much Sony is planning to support the title, since they're seemingly involved.
No need if they're already making exclusives for you anyways.
Yep, will buy when it comes to the West.
Compile Heart had 2 games released in PS3's 1st year, 3 in 2 years. They were still a brand new company at that point too.
D3 didn't have PS3 specifically, but they had games on 360 in its early life. Natsuiro High School is even multiplatform, their last gen games were exclusives.
RadarScope1
Member
So the headline here is they're no longer supporting a nearly decade-old piece of hardware?
They're already refusing to develop for other platforms and Sony's broke so I'm not sure I see the logic here.
I have to disagree when it comes to the PC at least. I can't be the only one who thinks that the Disgaea series at least would be a good fit for the PC and would buy them in a heartbeat if they ever got a PC port.
CamHostage
Member
Even though there's no reason behind it, I do kind of wish Wii U could somehow have been part of their platform slate in just a pure Japanophile wish fulfillment desire (3DS gets its due mostly enough, plus any support thrown that direction would possibly affect the desperately-needed Vita support.)
But it does my heart good to see old-school handshake deals meaning good things to dedicated crowds of gamers, and I hope NIS has a bright future ahead.
But it does my heart good to see old-school handshake deals meaning good things to dedicated crowds of gamers, and I hope NIS has a bright future ahead.
Have you not seen the surge of JRPGs on Steam lately?
Cornbread78
Member
problem with going ps4 is that it ain't gonna be as easy to port to vita
Disgaea 4 already chugged a bit on vita... Disgaea 5 is gonna be rough.
I'm pretty sure devs have said the conversion from PS4> Vita was easier than PS3> Vita.. Hopefully, that is the case..
Yeah, if Idea Factory & Compile Heart's Neptunia series can find success on the PC I'm sure NIS games can. Tecmo-Koei's Gust games too. And Bandai-Namco.
Seriously hope Gust's games hit the PS4 next. Really don't want to keep playing stuff on my PS3 if I don't have to. Really wish Tales of Zestiria was getting a PS4 version. =\
Niikawa already said that D5 can't run on the Vita:
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/new...ita-version-of-disgaea-5-is-impossible/.82756
Not surprised, seeing how D4 runs on it
Those devs weren't NIS, though. Niikawa has said that Disgaea 5 wouldn't run on Vita and that it would have to wait for "Sony's next handheld" (lol).
That was a joke. They were joking.
PC is a different issue, however. Significantly more relevant in the west than in Japan, and they might not have as much Sony support if that's the direction they were to take.
That was a misunderstanding that was corrected afterwards. http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=949072
Edit: Beaten x(
I swear I've heard this for a good fiver years on here.
In weekly sales? Its beaten N3DS consistently after the first week or so, and its only recently started beating all 3DS's combined
HyperZone<3
Member
seeing the PS4 finally, finally take back some dominance in Japan from the handheld consoles has the potential to be a big turning point for Japanese developers/publishers.
For all the doom and gloom in gaming these days, I find the PS4's success in its homeland to be a pretty big bright spot.
For all the doom and gloom in gaming these days, I find the PS4's success in its homeland to be a pretty big bright spot.
Oh LOL, I was thinking how this PS exclusivity didn't make sense in light of possibly being shut down XD
That's good then, Sony have some great niche exclusives guaranteed for the PS4.
Hibiki Kurosawa
Member
It's nice to see the JRPGs coming to the new gen. Hopefully they'll have great success on PS4.
it's really rare that people don't count variations of a system together. the vita tv is included in vita numbers for instance, and that has less in common with the original version than the new 3ds does with the 3ds. the ps4 outsold the 3ds by a few hundred last week, and by about 15,000 in a previous week. there may have been others too, but the ps4 isn't the king of the industry over there.
Parakeetman
No one wants a throne you've been sitting on!
agreed 100%
if sony buys them, then i don't know who will actually bring the games over and how. scea would probably turn their nose up at a sprite-based srpg and have it a $15 download only title.
Would they have a reason to? Have they ever let out Western Vs Japanese sales data for their games?
I wonder how the NISA online store does for them. I've bought everything there since it launched.
i doubt that is their intention with the series. but now i think they are really hoping that nisa can find success where they couldn't.
rodea and danganronpa are two big-ish games coming out from their western counterpart this year. i wonder how much money they stand to make on just those in addition to disgaea 5. nisa's been profitable for the last decade, even last year when the japanese home base posted a loss.
I feel like this is a similar reason we've seen Idea Factory/Compile Heart move to PS4 as well. Between the success of some of their franchises in the West and the PS4's commercial success, it wouldn't surprise me if many of the smaller developers/publishers feel they can lose some sales in their home market if the West will make up for it.
it's probably one of the more successful online stores for japanese companies. not sure how many others out there could stand to produce a physical copy of a game and sell it there all by themselves. that said, they clearly need retail, so it's probably more of a strong marketing tool more than anything,
Just speaking in terms of supporting the PS4 going forward, which is a large force overseas.
I think another thing might be the market differences. PS4 versions primarily for the West, Vita versions primarily for Japan, and PS4 -> Vita ports are easier for them than dealing with the PS3. I think that makes a lot of sense with Japan preferring Handhelds and NA preferring Home Consoles.
MaximumSpider
Banned
Nice. Two of my main platforms this gen getting more NIS love.
PC is basically a dead market in japan at this time and Nis' test of PC releases resulted in a failure that they have just ignored for 2 years now (cladun 2... it hasn't been on sale in over 2 years, I think it only went on sale twice period.
I mean they likely would have better success with disgaea than cladun, but in general Nis has had pretty poor success releasing stuff for non sony platforms and likely are content to just continue to release stuff on sony platforms.
Perhaps if idea factory's games continue to perform decently they might revisit the idea of releasing their games on PC, but that would likely be a year or two away at the min.
LiquidSolid
Member
The first is a good point, the second? lol. Go read Y2Kev's post on acquisitions before making dumb statements like that. Plus, the idea that Sony doesn't have enough money to buy a tiny company like NIS is pretty fucking laughable.
Anyway, good for NIS. Hopefully other Japanese devs start following their example and ditch the bloody PS3 already.
In addition to the motivations outlined by the NIS president, relying relatively highly on western support could indeed be another reason behind PS4 exclusivity. Niche games like Omega Quintet and Disgaea 5 probably, in a way, get more exposure in the west as PS4 exclusives, compared to if they were multiplatform games.
IAmRandom31
Banned
The other game is Dragons Crown 2 right ?
Can't wait for Disgaea 5!!!!
Can't wait for Disgaea 5!!!!
That's a Vanillaware game
NIS has published a Vanillaware game in the past.
LiquidSolid
Member
Vanillaware and Atlus.
Didn't they co-developed Grim Grimoire with them?
I would like to see another collab, but I doubt it will happen.
LiquidSolid
Member
Doesn't matter, Atlus owns Dragon's Crown.
IAmRandom31
Banned
Ah yeah that's right. Get those 2 mixed up sometimes.
Vanillaware needs to show off their next game soon too