LiquidSolid
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How is playing a videogame different to watching a video? Really?
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AngryJoe receives a Nintendo copyright claim. Hope they enjoyed the ad revenue; Done
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How is playing a videogame different to watching a video? Really?
razgriz417
Member
That was his first one. In the follow up tweet to the one in the OP he says he bought a wii u, 4 wii pro controllers to start covering wii u games, but not anymore because of this
https://twitter.com/AngryJoeShow/status/584274375546777600
But yeah my take on this is Nintendo has a royally fucked up YT policy, with the way the wii u is selling you'd think they'd want as much publicity as possible to try to sell more units. Either that or they internally think its a market failure and are trying to recoup as much $ they can by taking yt ad revenue
I disagree with Nintendo's YT policy and think their new YT program is ethically bankrupt (Youtubers submitting their content to YT for approval with Nintendo reserving the right to not accept your video, or just "work for" Nintendo by having your whole channel in the program...not exactly how you get critical coverage and something that would never be accepted on actual games journalist sites), this shouldn't exactly come as a surprise for Joe.
Majukun
Member
tell that to the gta developers and all the free press they got by the guys calling their game horrible and immoral...
LeeRoyBrown
Banned
Everyone knows what Hershey's are. So why advertise?
Edit: not saying that Joe is the right person for but he could be for all I know.
Phreakuency
Banned
Anyone getting paid to sit on their ass and play games needs to count their blessings and stop sulking whenever things don't go their way.
Let's Plays aren't piracy.My response:
Regurgitated
Banned
If he wants to take a small piece out and comment on it in a video then yes, it's original content. Plenty of people take bits out of other youtubers videos as references or commenting on it.
If you're going to attack someone get the facts right. He didn't want a Wii U, fans started a fund for it and he said "fine, we hit this goal I'll get a Wii U."
Very valid points.
Although, I'd say that while personalities may be important, it isn't the main draw to their channels. If AngryJoeShow reviewed fruit or paint supplies, I doubt he would have the same subscriber base he does by featuring popular videogames.
It is really not. The thing is Nintendo don't take down his video. They only flag it, so they can still get some chump change and still got the coverage from the videos. That is what pissed off youtuber the most.
Still, it's pretty stupid that his fans donated money to him to get a Wii U, and now he refuses to cover it for them because "Wah I can't make money"
jfoul
Member
My response:
Brilliant. You could make a super awesome reacts channel.
Josh reacts to The Angry Joe Show!
But he knew about Nintendo's policies before. He knew there was a high chance for the videos to be taken down.
Why even accept the money for a Wii U then ? If you are going to cry the first time you get a takedown.
Twitter's pretty garbage when it comes to displaying images.
Add 'rig' to the end of the URL and it gives you the proper upload.
Thanks, I never knew it was Twitters fault.
I see blurry pictures like that all the time and struggle to read them.
Chû Totoro
Member
lol at people talking about Nintendo defense force while most of people are not defending that Nintendo's move may not be smart but more like AngryJoe and a lot of Youtubers are acting like they have a sort of super influence on sales or whatever.
If they started to talk about some specific games it's because they know that the subject will bring them more views.
If they started to talk about some specific games it's because they know that the subject will bring them more views.
His Twitch fans donated to him so that he could get a Wii U and the games?
And he's going to call it all off because he's not making money on a segment of a uploaded livestream video?
Jesus, Joe.
NHarmonic.
Member
It's clearly a loss for nintendo, it's not like i wouldn't play the game if i watched those videos, it's the other way around (they are, in a way, "incentives" to go and buy X game you found interesting).
But hey, they just lost some potential customers, no big deal. Guess the Wii U is doing so good they don't need more people to be aware of it's existence.
But hey, they just lost some potential customers, no big deal. Guess the Wii U is doing so good they don't need more people to be aware of it's existence.
How many Nintendo/Wii U games has Angry Joe covered in the last year? How many views?
Sad that this isn't the first time, Joe does this every couple of months. Dunno if it gets him extra hits/likes/follows or whatever but he keeps drudging up the Nintendo YouTube policies and acting shocked when it happens when he clearly knows about them. Kinda pathetic really.
0, I think. Never heard of him covering Nintendo before.
Edit: Seems like he pulled the same shit with MK8. So basically still 0.
Jawmuncher
Member
He did MK8 and took it down, so technically 1.
TheSlySoul
Member
You know the defenders in this thread are right. News websites should not put ads on their webpage because they are making money based on not their content.
/s
rain elbows
Member
Akhe
Member
Ding ding ding
Leafhopper
Banned
Relaxed Muscle
Member
I don't know, but we know how many is going to do from now on:
Zero. Nada. None.
I'm sure that's worst than before.
And Mario Party 10.
For Joe's typical reviews / top 10 list videos I understand his point of view but for let's plays? Ehh...
If you are doing a review of a game then using gameplay footage should fall under fair use. If you have a top 10 style list of games and use gameplay footage it should also fall under fair use. If you do a lengthy let's play or god forbid let's play the entire game then I personally don't think it's fair use. The courts should really decide this.
If you are doing a review of a game then using gameplay footage should fall under fair use. If you have a top 10 style list of games and use gameplay footage it should also fall under fair use. If you do a lengthy let's play or god forbid let's play the entire game then I personally don't think it's fair use. The courts should really decide this.
Moral Panic
Member
That's for a court to decide.
I was going to side with Joe, but after seeing this:
How strict is Nintendo on videos showing their content? Can it only encompass up to a certain amount of seconds, or is it if you have any footage that you'll receive a strike?
can't say I agree with his rage.
How strict is Nintendo on videos showing their content? Can it only encompass up to a certain amount of seconds, or is it if you have any footage that you'll receive a strike?
Orniletter
Banned
That doesn't cast AJ in a better light at all, if that was what you were going for.
razgriz417
Member
Huh had no idea he had fans donate so he could buy a wii u? Was this documented somewhere?
Regurgitated
Banned
If you get too many take down notices they suspend your entire account.
He needs a hook for da kidz though. Passive Josh reacts to The Angry Joe Show?
I 'get' Joes response but it does strike a little of throwing your toys outta the pram
Moral Panic
Member
Which news websites are posting content they don't own?
Again, I'm really not someone who personally gives a fuck about let's plays, but let's be realistic, why would he spend time producing content that he won't make money on?
Not to say he's in the right if the WiiU was bought from crowdfunding, but it doesn't take a genius to know that he's going to spend his efforts on stuff he can monetize.
No it isn't. What the courts will decide isn't whether it's piracy or not. Copyright infringement isn't the same as piracy.
Except he didn't get a "takedown", the video wasn't removed by Nintendo.
It only got an ad revenue flag, meaning the video is still up, but now Nintendo makes the money.
It's shit yes, but Joe knows this happens and he's overreacting to something he knew would happen because it happened before! That's one reason why I have trouble sympathizing with his "plight".
A reviewer/Let's Player lives or dies by their fans. If his fans were willing to donate money to him to play Wii U games, the least he could do is indulge them.
Instead he's just going to take his ball and go home because he can't make money. This in turn would piss off the fans that donated.
R_thanatos
Member
Ah nintendo and youtube , it's like 2 different oils that can't mix together properly.
Nintendo POV on youtube users is IMO , so backwards it's ridiculous.
Nintendo POV on youtube users is IMO , so backwards it's ridiculous.
SpecialAgentZ
Member
Poor guy.
Can't get money for his hard working of sitting on his ass playing games.
This youtube money shit should end forever and you would see how many of those "gamers" are really passionate about the games they play and continue to upload videos.
Can't get money for his hard working of sitting on his ass playing games.
This youtube money shit should end forever and you would see how many of those "gamers" are really passionate about the games they play and continue to upload videos.